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[Archereon]

Wulfram wrote...

I don't think burning people at the stake would make much sense for a fanatical Andrastean, what with how Andraste ended up. It would give off the wrong associations.

Not neessarily, if you decide to forgo the silver sword of mercy for those who refuse to confess to their HERESIES. Then it's an extemely painful death that shows what a horrible person your Inquisitor is the fate that awaits all those who waallow in heresy and harbor those with the taint of the witch.

[JJDXB]

[quote]Karlone123 wrote...

Join the Templars: Burn apostates at the stake before the timber runs out.

Having the ability to slay past characters would be ok. I'm no longer bound by family so I really want to strike at Carver with a sheild.
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I liked Carver .  He's an ass in Act 1 and as a Templar, but deep down he cares.  Much more of a character than Bethany ever was, that's for sure.

[quote]Wulfram wrote...

I
don't think burning people at the stake would make much sense for a
fanatical Andrastean, what with how Andraste ended up. It would give
off the wrong associations.[/quote]

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You're right.  Burning at the stake is too steeped in Andraste's sacrifice.  Crucify them instead

Modifié par JBDXB, 02 septembre 2013 - 05:52 .

[Archereon]

I'd be willing to settle with binding Anders to an anchor and throwing him into a lake. Or just breaking all his limbs and binding him and place then waiting for him to die (a real, and very nasty, on par with stake burning IMHO, execution method used back in the day.)

[General TSAR]

I really wish Bioware will finally allow us to send the witch to the Maker.

Modifié par General TSAR, 02 septembre 2013 - 06:00 .

[Vilegrim]

Archereon wrote...

 Because for my first Inquisition playthrough, I intend to roleplay as a dangerously gloriously self-righteous lunatic hero motivated by his almost fanatical devotion to the God-Emperor The Pope The Maker, chiefly because Dragon Age 2 was so grimdark that I can no longer care about the Mage-Templar conflict on a moral level, and simply want to have some ****g fun with it, and no (fictional) Inquisition is complete without mass executions of so-called filthy heretics on flimsy charges, witch burnings (status of the accused as actual witches optional), and the complete and utter trampling of any semblance of human rights and deceny in the name of a religion whose God would be massively disappointed in proud of the atrocities His followers commit in His name!

But more seriously, I don't like Anders, but I was playing a dangerously deluded pro-mage frreedom mage in my DA2 I'm planning on importing, so he's still alive in that save, something which I'm hoping to correct in the most grimdark awesome way possible.

If I get to crucify Leliana and all the other Maker worshipping scum, or maybe do a Vlad the Imapler.

Modifié par Vilegrim, 02 septembre 2013 - 06:02 .

[In Exile]

Archereon wrote...
But unlike the other threads, this one is 100% tongue and cheeck, and more of a statement expressing how I hope "evil" choices in this game tend more towards the same kind of brutal extremism (on both the pro- and anti- mage sides) that got the world to it's sad state in the first place rather than the "Chaotic Stupid" actions that tend to show up in games with moral choice systems.

I've seen so many of them that I'm playing them all straight from this point on. 

[Archereon]

In Exile wrote...

Archereon wrote...
But unlike the other threads, this one is 100% tongue and cheeck, and more of a statement expressing how I hope "evil" choices in this game tend more towards the same kind of brutal extremism (on both the pro- and anti- mage sides) that got the world to it's sad state in the first place rather than the "Chaotic Stupid" actions that tend to show up in games with moral choice systems.

I've seen so many of them that I'm playing them all straight from this point on. 

Wait, do you mean you've seen so many 100% serious (excluding the possibility of the OP being a troll) that you're assuming they're serious by default? If so that's kind of messed up.

[Vilegrim]

Archereon wrote...

In Exile wrote...

Archereon wrote...
But unlike the other threads, this one is 100% tongue and cheeck, and more of a statement expressing how I hope "evil" choices in this game tend more towards the same kind of brutal extremism (on both the pro- and anti- mage sides) that got the world to it's sad state in the first place rather than the "Chaotic Stupid" actions that tend to show up in games with moral choice systems.

I've seen so many of them that I'm playing them all straight from this point on. 

Wait, do you mean you've seen so many 100% serious (excluding the possibility of the OP being a troll) that you're assuming they're serious by default? If so that's kind of messed up.

So many please let me go kill em all mode on x faction threads I would suppose.

[d-boy15]

Why do you want something like that? I rather tranquilize Anders instead.

[Archereon]

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Vilegrim wrote...

Archereon wrote...

In Exile wrote...

Archereon wrote...
But unlike the other threads, this one is 100% tongue and cheeck, and more of a statement expressing how I hope "evil" choices in this game tend more towards the same kind of brutal extremism (on both the pro- and anti- mage sides) that got the world to it's sad state in the first place rather than the "Chaotic Stupid" actions that tend to show up in games with moral choice systems.

I've seen so many of them that I'm playing them all straight from this point on. 

Wait, do you mean you've seen so many 100% serious (excluding the possibility of the OP being a troll) that you're assuming they're serious by default? If so that's kind of messed up.

So many please let me go kill em all mode on x faction threads I would suppose. 

Well I wasn't aware of any of them, and tbh, I'm all for letting the player be a genocidal lunatic towards any faction of their choosing. Or a perfectly saintly paragon who wants everyone to get along. Or something in between.


Want to topple the Chantry and institute Stalin-esque purges of priests and Chantry supporters? Go ahead, you awesome, evil bastard!


Want to pretend your an Inquisitor from the 40k universe and go around smiting witches, heretics, and mutants like a badass motherf'er? By all means, it's your game.


Want to be a perfect goody two shoes saint? Well eff you! Nah just kidding, I'd love to be able to play like that as well, though your idealism shouldn't be without consequence.




Now on a related note, I was planning to have my Lawful Evil inquisitor be a mage himself, a rather belligerent loyalist sort intent on reinstating the circle system, and purging everyone who gets in his way as a heretic.

Modifié par Archereon, 02 septembre 2013 - 06:25 .

[Reaverwind]

Archereon wrote...

I'd be willing to settle with binding Anders to an anchor and throwing him into a lake. Or just breaking all his limbs and binding him and place then waiting for him to die (a real, and very nasty, on par with stake burning IMHO, execution method used back in the day.)

Nah - use him as bait to bring down a dragon. If he survives, rinse and repeat. 

[Archereon]

Reaverwind wrote...

Archereon wrote...

I'd be willing to settle with binding Anders to an anchor and throwing him into a lake. Or just breaking all his limbs and binding him and place then waiting for him to die (a real, and very nasty, on par with stake burning IMHO, execution method used back in the day.)

Nah - use him as bait to bring down a dragon. If he survives, rinse and repeat. 

Now your thinking like a true Inquisitor! 

But seriously, while I would probably sentence Anders to death (though given that he's trying to become a Martyr, I wouldn't be against a life sentence or tranquility if either of those could be expected to work) if I was given the choice in real life, I would never even consider any of the execution methods talked about here; they're downright inhumane. If we're restricting ourselves to what they had in the real-life Middle Ages, I'd have to go with death by hanging or having him beheaded, and with modern tech, a lethal injection would be perfectly fine.

Modifié par Archereon, 02 septembre 2013 - 06:35 .

[Maclimes]

Bethany is not an apostate at the end of DA2.

She is either dead, a member of the circle, or a member of the Grey Wardens.

Although considering the circle is in a crazy way right now, maybe she would be technically an apostate? I dunno. Since Apostate means "Mage who is not a member of the Circle", the word sort of falls apart when the Circle ceases to exist.

[Archereon]

Maclimes wrote...

Bethany is not an apostate at the end of DA2.

She is either dead, a member of the circle, or a member of the Grey Wardens.

Although considering the circle is in a crazy way right now, maybe she would be technically an apostate? I dunno. Since Apostate means "Mage who is not a member of the Circle", the word sort of falls apart when the Circle ceases to exist.

Well, the Kirkwall Circle was subject to annulment, so I suppose any mages from said circle who managed to get out alive could be considered renegades and therefore subject to the wrath of the Maker's Holy Inquisition, but in the save I'm planning on importing for this particular derranged lunatic of a PC, Bethany is already dead. Hawke on the other hand, is very much alive, and the Inquisiton intends to hunt her down and put her to the torch for the Malificar she is!

[In Exile]

Archereon wrote...

Well I wasn't aware of any of them, and tbh, I'm all for letting the player be a genocidal lunatic towards any faction of their choosing. Or a perfectly saintly paragon who wants everyone to get along. Or something in between.

I'm all for in-game evil options. But lots of threads, they're not someone wearing their lets have lots of options for comical evil requests. No, they're saying their IRL view is to gut templars and forcefully deport people from the Dales, etc. 

That's why I'm just no longer able to tell what's a real view and what's just an onion OP. 

[OLDIRTYBARON]

In Exile wrote...

Archereon wrote...

Well I wasn't aware of any of them, and tbh, I'm all for letting the player be a genocidal lunatic towards any faction of their choosing. Or a perfectly saintly paragon who wants everyone to get along. Or something in between.

I'm all for in-game evil options. But lots of threads, they're not someone wearing their lets have lots of options for comical evil requests. No, they're saying their IRL view is to gut templars and forcefully deport people from the Dales, etc. 

That's why I'm just no longer able to tell what's a real view and what's just an onion OP. 

Yeah, some people definitely seem a little homicidal when it comes to this stuff, but inferring through text leaves a lot of room for interpretation. There's a distinct lack of context, after all.

Within the confines of a Dragon Age game, I definitely think people should be able to take sides and even dabble in the extremist viewpoint. It's all about roleplaying, and for me personally I think I should be able to bring the mages to heel. Weed out the dangerous ones from the ones who are just caught in the middle. 

Although comically evil can be fun. Fable pulled it off quite nicely.

[Tarek]

nothing like a good medieval peasant mob with pitch forks and touches to remind us of the good old days

[AutumnWitch]

In my DA world Anders is long since dead....but I wouldn't pass an opportunity to smack him around again..."no chance of compromise eh" WHACK! WHACK WHACK! Oh now you want to talk about compromise huh?

[Phoenix_Fyre]

It would be awesome- if highly unlikely to capture Hawke and maybe put him/her on trial?

I mean the whole damn war happened because of Hawke and Co in Kirkwall, albeit not entirely their fault, that place was waiting to explode anyways

[Archereon]

@InExile: I wouldn't quite call what I'm hoping for comical evil, though there's certainly plenty of room for that with characters like this, it's more that what I'm hoping for is the option to indulge in the same extremism that caused the war in the first place, on either side of the mage-templar divide, and to end up only making matters worse by trying to fight fire with fire, even if you do manage to put an end to the demonic invasions.

If the situation in the title came up, where the Inquisitor captured Anders, put him on a mock trial that only existed to make an example of him rather than determine his guilt, then sentenced him to death by burning at the stake for his heresy, I would simultaneously feel like a complete badass and a horrible, horrible person, despite the fact that Anders definitely did enough to deserve his execution.

I really liked Anders back in Awakenings, and it was tragic to see him become a completely different person in 2 as a result of his possession, and worse still to see him jump off the deep edge completely. Him defiantly cursing the Inquisitor when offered a swift and merciful death by his sword (echoing Andraste for the purpose of making the execution seem like a final opportunity for final redemption), and letting loose a single tear for the woman he loved (Hawke in my case) as the flames of his pyre lick at his feet would wrap up his storyline in a fantastically tragic way that I would consider to be a downright wonderful storytelling moment.

Modifié par Archereon, 02 septembre 2013 - 06:58 .

[Nefla]

Man, if you could have a fully implemented and satisfying execution of Anders (and Merril) if he's alive I would play with him alive just to get to execute him! Quick murder knife was dull and unsatisfying.

[TheBlackAdder13]

Sounds like a fun play through but for the love of God have some mercy! Spare Bethany! Killing Bethany is bad and you should feel bad for even entertaining the notion (and this is coming from someone who murder-knifed both Anders and Morrigan).

Modifié par TheBlackAdder13, 02 septembre 2013 - 06:57 .

[Archereon]

TheBlackAdder13 wrote...

Sounds like a fun play through but for the love of God have some mercy! Spare Bethany! Killing Bethany is bad and you should feel bad for even entertaining the notion (and this is coming from someone who murder-knifed both Anders and Morrigan).

Mercy is for the weak!  No witch can be spared the consequences of their heresies, no matter how innocent they may seem! Bethany would, like Anders, be given the offer of a swift death by the sword should she confess to her crimes! Otherwise, she to must burn!

[Drimberly]

First playthrough : Carefully judge each case according to what my Inq knows.
Second playthrough: BURN THE HERETIC!

[Lord Raijin]

Andrastate panties to the oblivion to all the Anders haters!

Anders is a hero for doing what he did. Hes fighting for the freedom of all mages, and finally putting to the end of the corruptive Chantry.



Why do people hate him so much for advocating his kind?

Templars are nothing more than out of control drug addicts. It should be them that should be stopped. Not the mages who want to live peacefully within society.

Modifié par Lord Raijin, 02 septembre 2013 - 07:39 .