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[chessplayer209]

Anyone else think the AIs of the game are the most interesting/enjoyable characters in the game? Specifically, I'm referring to Legion and EDI. Talking to them always seemed much more interesting than talking to the organics. Organic characters all start seeming similar to each other in fundamental ways after you've talked with them enough, whereas Legion and EDI offer something new and different to talk to - a fundamentally new and different perspective on the world that none of the other characters offer (with the possible exception of the Reapers, but you don't get to converse with them very much anyway, so that's redundant).

I realize Legion ''dies'' so I can't expect to see him in future titles, but the Geth ARE intelligent, so there's no reason a new "Legion" platform couldn't be produced - and Legion came to consensus with the rest of the Geth periodically (during ME2 it is noted that Legion transmits to the Geth consensus, updating them on his experiences with Shepard), so they should have all of Legion's old memories with Shepard, so in a sense Legion could come back, even if it isn't the platform we knew as Legion.

So ultimately Legion (a rebuilt 'Legion') and EDI are what I'm most interested to see (character-wise) in future titles.

Anyone else agree the AIs are the most interesting? Who is the most important characters for you to see return in future Mass Effect games?

[David7204]

I wouldn't be overwhelmingly surprised if the next Mass Effect took place post-Destroy with both the geth and EDI alive. As a reassurence to players that the ending wasn't as bad they they thought (and continue to think) and as somewhat of a 'screw-you' you to Catalyst, which would probably be welcomed.

Modifié par David7204, 02 septembre 2013 - 09:36 .

[Clayless]

I do hope to see EDI in future titles, given her whole immortality thing. I'd like to see Liara and Grunt too.

To mention OP, BSN hates synthetics it seems.

Modifié par Robosexual, 02 septembre 2013 - 09:37 .

[chessplayer209]

StreetMagic wrote...

You play 3 games and at the end, think everyone is boring except EDI and Legion.

I never said I thought everyone is boring except EDI and Legion. I only made clear that EDI and Legion were more interesting for me to talk with than the organics. This doesn't mean I didn't enjoy the other characters.  To suggest I didn't enjoy the other characters is an unreasonable assumption to make (EDI and Legion weren't in Mass Effect 1, yet I still bought and played through Mass Effect 2).

EDI and Legion aren't the reason I started playing Mass Effect games, and I would still play the games without their presence. The expereience would just be less interesting, that's all.

[chessplayer209]

StreetMagic wrote...

chessplayer209 wrote...

StreetMagic wrote...

You play 3 games and at the end, think everyone is boring except EDI and Legion.

I never said I thought everyone is boring except EDI and Legion. I only made clear that EDI and Legion were more interesting for me to talk with than the organics. This doesn't mean I didn't enjoy the other characters.  To suggest I didn't enjoy the other characters is an unreasonable assumption to make (EDI and Legion weren't in Mass Effect 1, yet I still bought and played through Mass Effect 2).

EDI and Legion aren't the reason I started playing Mass Effect games, and I would still play the games without their presence. The expereience would just be less interesting, that's all.

You also said you found the organics fundamentally the same. That's hardly calling them enjoyable. That's writing them off if there ever was a way to write something off.

I said they were "similar,"  not that they are "the same." And compared to synthetics, they are similar. That doesn't mean there isn't enough character variation present with organics to make different organics worthwhile characters in the game. It only means that there is less variation possible than there is compared with a hypothetical alternative containing both organic characters and synthetic characters.

Modifié par chessplayer209, 02 septembre 2013 - 09:56 .

[Sir DeLoria]

 Geth? What Geth?

[The Night Mammoth]

The most interesting characters were Legion, Thane, Samara, and Mordin, to me, mostly because their backgrounds and personalities are more unique than most of the other characters. That's not to say that, for example, Garrus, is boring, just that I found talking to Thane about how his religion governs his outlook on his often murderous actions more interesting a lot of the time than Garrus's constant satire.

I'd like them all to return, but I have to admit that I probably wouldn't miss most of the human squadmates as much.

Modifié par The Night Mammoth, 02 septembre 2013 - 09:58 .

[chessplayer209]

The Night Mammoth wrote...

The most interesting characters were Legion, Thane, Samara, and Mordin, to me, mostly because their backgrounds and personalities are more unique than most of the other characters. That's not to say that, for example, Garrus, is boring, just that I found talking to Thane about how his religion governs his outlook on his murderous actions often more interesting than Garrus's constant satire.

I'd like them all to return, but I have to admit that I probably wouldn't miss most of the human squadmates.

Samara was too much of a predictable goody two-shoes for me to enjoy. Agreed on Legion and Mordin though. I enjoyed debating the Genophage with Mordin quite a bit. I would agree he's one of the more interesting organics.

Modifié par chessplayer209, 02 septembre 2013 - 10:02 .

[Sir DeLoria]

Jokes aside, Tali is stil my favourite character and I always thought she had one of the most interesting backgrounds. Especially in ME1, I thought her story was the most interesting(though her dialogue was more than lacking). I especially loved exploring Quarian culture in ME2. Mordin was also interesting, given his STG/genophage background. Wrex was cool in ME1, but lacked content in the next two games. Grunt and Thane I really liked as well, they both had unique personalities. The most boring characters to me were Jacob, James, Kaidan, Garrus, Liara and Legion(non-squadmates not counted). 

Don't get me wrong, I really like both Garrus and Kaidan, but their characters and dialogue are sadly, mostly bland and boring. Legion has a special place in the hall of shame for me, he is the epitome of the stereotypical sci-fi robot Pinocchio "I wanna be a real boy" type and I gladly let Tali ramm her dagger through his back(if I didn't sell him). EDI was ok in ME3, I don't really care for her or her weird relationship with Joker.

[KaiserShep]

Mordin, EDI and Legion certainly had my favorite pieces of dialogue in the trilogy.

[chessplayer209]

StreetMagic wrote...

chessplayer209 wrote...

I said they were similar, not that they are "the same." And compared to synthetics, they are similar. That doesn't mean there isn't enough character variation present with organics to make different organics worthwhile characters in the game. It only means that there is less variation possible than there is compared with a hypothetical alternative containing both organic characters and synthetic characters.

They are not similar. You just sound like you ignored their dialogue and spaced out or something.

Now I wonder if I should spend 5 minutes writing a little synopsis pointing out differences in each character.


.. Nah, nevermind. Carry on.

Your discussion of the differences between each character would be pointless, because I already said I understand there are differences between each character.

[Br3admax]

Necanor wrote...

Jokes aside, Tali is stil my favourite character and I always thought she had one of the most interesting backgrounds. Especially in ME1, I thought her story was the most interesting(though her dialogue was more than lacking). I especially loved exploring Quarian culture in ME2. Mordin was also interesting, given his STG/genophage background. Wrex was cool in ME1, but lacked content in the next two games. Grunt and Thane I really liked as well, they both had unique personalities. The most boring characters to me were Jacob, James, Kaidan, Garrus, Liara and Legion(non-squadmates not counted). 

Don't get me wrong, I really like both Garrus and Kaidan, but their characters and dialogue are sadly, mostly bland and boring. Legion has a special place in the hall of shame for me, he is the epitome of the stereotypical sci-fi robot Pinocchio "I wanna be a real boy" type and I gladly let Tali ramm her dagger through his back(if I didn't sell him). EDI was ok in ME3, I don't really care for her or her weird relationship with Joker.

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Anyway. I find them all to be kind of interesting really. The real question is who is the most boring. Excluding the fan favorites for answering that question of course. 

[Sir DeLoria]

Br3ad wrote...

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I'm a fairly nice person actually, I'm just not that fond of Geth. No, I don't like them very much indeed.

[Br3admax]

If you're being serious I wasn't.

Also now that I think on it, Jocker pretty interesting. He's been with Shepard the longest and is always there for comic relief.

[adayaday]

Non of them,let them rest in piece.

[Sir DeLoria]

Br3ad wrote...

If you're being serious I wasn't.

Also now that I think on it, Jocker pretty interesting. He's been with Shepard the longest and is always there for comic relief.

:lol:Of course I'm not, I'm almost never serious.

[AlanC9]

David7204 wrote...

I wouldn't be overwhelmingly surprised if the next Mass Effect took place post-Destroy with both the geth and EDI alive. As a reassurence to players that the ending wasn't as bad they they thought (and continue to think) and as somewhat of a 'screw-you' you to Catalyst, which would probably be welcomed.

That wouldn't be a "reassurence to players that the ending wasn't as bad they they thought" -- it would be an admission that the endings were as bad as they thought, and a massive retcon to undo the bad stuff.

I wouldn't put a whole lot of money on Bio capitulating like this unless EA makes them, which isn't inconceivable.

Modifié par AlanC9, 02 septembre 2013 - 11:02 .

[TheWerdna]

As much as I like almost all of the characters, I kinda hope that if they are going to be in ME3 it will be as just a cameo. I feel like these character should get to have an ending and step aside from the limelight to make way for the new characters.

[RZIBARA]

Javik, Ash, Wrex, Garrus, and Samara

Mordin too, but its likely he wouldnt be in.

EDI as well, if they change what happens in destroy

Modifié par RZIBARA, 02 septembre 2013 - 11:31 .

[P. Domi]

Ash, Alenko, Mordin, Garrus, Liara, Miranda...

My favorites, although some would not nec. survive all the events in the trilogy

Modifié par pablodomi, 03 septembre 2013 - 02:01 .