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[Pistolized]

I remember in one of my playthroughs giving a certain area of Ferelden to the Dalish clans to settle as their own.  Then, the following conversation happened which I have never figured out:

Knight of Dane wrote...

Stella-Arc wrote...

LobselVith8 wrote...

Pistolized wrote...  (** THAT'S ME **)

Well, according to my main playthrough of DA:O,  Elves have been given their own plot of land in Ferelden.  
So I'd say go looking for the Dalish there, and the previous nation "The Dales" just over the Ferelden mountain range "Frostback Mountains".  Shouldn't be too hard to find.

That's a bug. The Dalish only get the Hinterlands if the Dalish Boon transpires.

Well, in my DAII, it looks like **** hit the fan and someting happened that the boon never (or couldn't) happen (I trusted you Alistair!). 

Well, there goes my boon. What a waste. Should of asked for a title and riches. 

The boons are only properly imported if Anora grant them. The only way I know to get Alistair to talk about the dalish or the magi one in DA2 is to recruit Loghain and have the hardened Al marry Anora.

I can't remember much about the very end of DA:O; can someone help fill in the blanks?

1. What does that mean?  My game imports will not recognize this?  DA2 invalidated it? DA:O invalidated it?  There's a bug regarding this choice?  Some/none/all?  Tell me; I don't remember it being mentioned at all in my DA2 playthroughs.  What happened?

2. I don't remember, but I'm guessing no boon is granted if your Warden dies.  True?

[Secretlyapotato]

1. I'll take that person's word for it; that would mean it will only flag properly if Anora gave the boon, so it won't carry to DA2 otherwise. This will be irrelevant to Inquisition however, they're doing away with relying on imports and letting us edit the import or just put down all the stuff that happened. =) (since there's sooo many import bugs and incorrect flagging)

2. There's a boon granted at the warden's funeral if they die. Idk if it's the same one all the time but it's related to their origin.

Modifié par Secretlyapotato, 03 septembre 2013 - 01:42 .

[sylvanaerie]

I do know the boon offered for a US'ed Circle mage is "Autonomy for the Circle" and I believe the Dalish one is the lands for the elves (which they seem to get regardless in the epilogue slides) and the boon for Cousland is "Return of Highever" to Fergus, who suggests the lands in Amaranthine go to the Grey Wardens (instead of Anora or Alistair doing it--though the ruler agrees).

TBH I think the boons aren't really relevant to sequel games as King Alistair mentioned when Hawke spoke to him that he tried to free the Circle (on my Surana run), but it was easier said than done. IE no freedom for the mages.

I tend to think of slides as 'rumors' that the rest of Thedas hears what MAY have happened, true or not.

Modifié par sylvanaerie, 03 septembre 2013 - 02:07 .

[Corker]

I know for a US city elf, they'll make Cyrion Tabris bann of the Alienage - so, similar to the Origin-specific boon that lets a Warden become bann, or else nominate Shianni for the job. I'd guess it's similar for other origins?

FWIW, the Dalish clan in DA2 left Ferelden during the Blight (before the Dalish boon) then lost their halla. So they got stuck on Sundermount and will be found there whether or not there's a new Dalish homeland in the south of Ferelden. (Yes, they could theoretically walk, like the elves who walked to Halamshiral. But Keeper Marethari has [SPOILER] reasons for staying.)

[sylvanaerie]

Corker wrote...

I know for a US city elf, they'll make Cyrion Tabris bann of the Alienage - so, similar to the Origin-specific boon that lets a Warden become bann, or else nominate Shianni for the job. I'd guess it's similar for other origins?

FWIW, the Dalish clan in DA2 left Ferelden during the Blight (before the Dalish boon) then lost their halla. So they got stuck on Sundermount and will be found there whether or not there's a new Dalish homeland in the south of Ferelden. (Yes, they could theoretically walk, like the elves who walked to Halamshiral. But Keeper Marethari has [SPOILER] reasons for staying.)

Which is really stupid since a US'ed Dalish's funeral is attended by Keeper Marethari (and presumeably the clan). (Keeper is at 4:27).  Or if you just have the Dalish survive the old woman who took care of him/her as a child shows up in the Post Coronation talking about how she is looking forward to having real land to live on and settle into.

US'ed Dalish:

[Corker]

I sort of figured the funeral was their last stop before leaving Ferelden. Ariane says that they "went north, to forget their troubles" (or something like that). Certainly learning that Mahariel had died would add to their sorrows.

[LobselVith8]

Secretlyapotato wrote...

1. I'll take that person's word for it; that would mean it will only flag properly if Anora gave the boon, so it won't carry to DA2 otherwise. This will be irrelevant to Inquisition however, they're doing away with relying on imports and letting us edit the import or just put down all the stuff that happened. =) (since there's sooo many import bugs and incorrect flagging)

The Magi Boon is also bugged, since it was only properly recognized by First Enchanter Irving and the Epilogue slides when Queen Anora granted it to my Surana Warden (who convinced a personality hardened Alistair to marry Anora, after sparing Loghain).

As I understand it from ejoslin, there are also issues with the City Elf slides. It's a bit of a mess.

Secretlyapotato wrote...

2. There's a boon granted at the warden's funeral if they die. Idk if it's the same one all the time but it's related to their origin.

Having Marethari at the funeral does make it odd to have her in Kirkwall, but there are plenty of other continuity issues between Origins and Dragon Age II as it is.

[Sifr]

It seems that the events of Origins took place over the course of several months and a year at most, so it's not difficult for Marethari to have been at the funeral in Denerim in 9:30, yet in Kirkwall in 9:31.

As for the boon itself, Alistair mentions that the Dalish owning the Hinterlands didn't go well, but leaves it ambiguous what actually happened?

It's not hard to imagine that the Bannorn weren't happy at the Dalish having a huge chunk of Ferelden officially under their control? Or that the Hinterlands proved hard to settle because the entire area had been left tainted as Blightlands?

[Angrywolves]

Don't know yet.
Expect we'll learn a lot in DAI.

[Ferretinabun]

The issue is that the DA:O epilogue slides are really buggy.

1) If Alistair is king, many (all?) of the boon requests do not set at all.
2) The Dalish boon slide shows to everyone who lifted the werewolf curse.
3) Gaider has stated that even if the mage boon was requested properly, it came to nothing in the DA world, since annexing the Circle is beyond the monarch's power.
4) The city elf boon slides do not show at all.

All a bit of a mess, really.

The good news is that Bioware are releasing Dragon Age Keep - essentially a quick checklist where you can select the options you chose in your previous games (or not, if you prefer) and use this to import your choices into DA:I - in theory bug-free and correct.

http://blog.bioware....ragon-age-keep/

[Pistolized]

Good on the Keep system. It's like they got half way with the import onto the BSN, and now they are finishing the job. And since they will be covering old events in the Keep, I am going to assume/hope that many possibilities brought up by that will be mentioned and relevant.

[Last Darkness]

There so many bugs in this game im glad when I heard about DAKeep.
But I always belived hardened Alistair Marry Anora was one of the best scenarios(And kept Logain lol) so it dosnt get effected by some of the terrible epiloge bugs.