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[Maiden Crowe]

Just wondering how flexible the classes will be, will we have more options and specializations to choose from? Will Warriors be able to dual wield again? Will there be any sort of Arcane Warrior spec for mages? Or will it be similar to DA2 where classes will be more restrictive and fairly rooted in whatever role they fill?

Also how in depth are we talking with Character customization? Tattoos, scars, body sliders?

Modifié par Maiden Crowe, 03 septembre 2013 - 04:26 .

[Vicious]

It's anyone's guess given the game isn't coming out for another year.

[Spectre slayer]

Some of that stuff hasn't been announced yet so can't help to much.

1. There has been evidence of dual welding warriors returning

2. Weapons are class restricted but you can use any weapon type in your class.

3. Qunari are playable and have access to all classes

4. Not sure about body sliders but they have mentioned tattao's and possibly scars recently but weren't specific

5. Nothing on specializations yet.

Modifié par Spectre slayer, 03 septembre 2013 - 04:45 .

[Maiden Crowe]

Also on the subject of Qunari they said that the Qunari player race was one of the major things they wanted to show at PAX however from what I could see it was all tell and no show, did they actually show the qunari inquisitor or just make it known that it will be a playable race?

[Biotic Sage]

What I really want to see are some healing options for classes other than the mage. Mages should still have be the best healers when specced accordingly, but why not have some skills or specializations that facilitate healing for Warriors/Rogues? Like the OP said: flexibility. There was virtually no flexibility in class roles in DA2, and even less so with the companions (Fenris has to dual wield, Aveline has to tank, Merill is a freakin mage and still can't even heal, etc.).

Like I said, Mages should still have the potential to be the best healers, just like Warriors should have the potential to be the best tanks and Rogues should have the potential to be the best single target DPS. But we should still have the option to spec versatile Mages that can tank (Arcane Warrior), Rogues that can heal (new specialization like Medic?), or Warriors that focus more on DPS than defense (Dual Wield).

That way we don't get into situations where we can't bring the companions we actually like because we have to have whiny Anders around for his boo boo kisses...

Modifié par Biotic Sage, 03 septembre 2013 - 04:54 .

[DooomCookie]

Spectre slayer wrote...

Some of that stuff hasn't been announced yet so can't help to much.

1. There has been evidence of dual welding warriors returning

2. Weapons are class restricted but you can use any weapon type in your class.

3. Qunari are playable and have access to all classes

4. Not sure about body sliders but they have mentioned tattao's and possibly scars recently but weren't specific

5. Nothing on specializations yet.

Where did you hear that Qunari would not be class restricted?

And I'd be keen for tattoos.   

[Biotic Sage]

DooomCookie wrote...

Spectre slayer wrote...

Some of that stuff hasn't been announced yet so can't help to much.

1. There has been evidence of dual welding warriors returning

2. Weapons are class restricted but you can use any weapon type in your class.

3. Qunari are playable and have access to all classes

4. Not sure about body sliders but they have mentioned tattao's and possibly scars recently but weren't specific

5. Nothing on specializations yet.

Where did you hear that Qunari would not be class restricted?

And I'd be keen for tattoos.   

I've heard some others say this, but I don't have a link or quote.  I did see in the Pax Demo video that was on YouTube that one of the save file screens showed a player character listed as "Race: Qunari" "Class: Rogue."  And I'm 100% certain you can be a Qunari Warrior, that's just obvious.  So Mage is up in the air?  Saarebas!

Modifié par Biotic Sage, 03 septembre 2013 - 05:07 .

[Taleroth]

Biotic Sage wrote...

I've heard some others say this, but I don't have a link or quote.  I did see in the Pax Demo video that was on YouTube that one of the save file screens showed a player character listed as "Race: Qunari" "Class: Rogue."  And I'm 100% certain you can be a Qunari Warrior, that's just obvious.  So Mage is up in the air?  Saarebas!

If Qunari get all classes, then I'm expecting Sandal's prophecy to come true. Mages for Dwarves.

4 races, it just wouldn't be cool to only limit Dwarves.

[Biotic Sage]

Taleroth wrote...

Biotic Sage wrote...

I've heard some others say this, but I don't have a link or quote.  I did see in the Pax Demo video that was on YouTube that one of the save file screens showed a player character listed as "Race: Qunari" "Class: Rogue."  And I'm 100% certain you can be a Qunari Warrior, that's just obvious.  So Mage is up in the air?  Saarebas!

If Qunari get all classes, then I'm expecting Sandal's prophecy to come true. Mages for Dwarves.

4 races, it just wouldn't be cool to only limit Dwarves.

Don't quote me on this, but I thought they confirmed that Dwarves still can't be mages...

I'm sure that Dwarves will have a significant inherent class bonus (resistance to magic probably) that makes up for it.  And at this point with the lore, to me a Dwarf mage would seem really strange and I doubt I would buy it.  Qunari have a precedent in the lore for Qunari mages so that wouldn't be too strange.  The Qunari leading non-Qunari however IS strange, and I hope they have a really good explanation should you choose to roll a Qunari.

Modifié par Biotic Sage, 03 septembre 2013 - 05:15 .

[Taleroth]

Biotic Sage wrote...

Qunari have a precedent in the lore for Qunari mages so that wouldn't be too strange.

And before DAO, there was no precedent for Dwarves entering the Fade at all. I'd think the Fade opening up right on top of a guy changes a few things.

The Qunari leading non-Qunari however IS strange

No stranger than an Elf.

[In Exile]

Biotic Sage wrote...
I've heard some others say this, but I don't have a link or quote.  I did see in the Pax Demo video that was on YouTube that one of the save file screens showed a player character listed as "Race: Qunari" "Class: Rogue."  And I'm 100% certain you can be a Qunari Warrior, that's just obvious.  So Mage is up in the air?  Saarebas!

From what I've read, while you can be a qunari mage, you're not a saarebas. 

[Biotic Sage]

In Exile wrote...

Biotic Sage wrote...
I've heard some others say this, but I don't have a link or quote.  I did see in the Pax Demo video that was on YouTube that one of the save file screens showed a player character listed as "Race: Qunari" "Class: Rogue."  And I'm 100% certain you can be a Qunari Warrior, that's just obvious.  So Mage is up in the air?  Saarebas!

From what I've read, while you can be a qunari mage, you're not a saarebas. 

But...I thought "saarebas" was a name that denotes a Qunari mage?  Or does it only denote a Qunari mage but not a Kossith mage?  But then why is the race called "Qunari?"  Then we're getting into the whole thing of "Jewish" because it's a religion but it's also an ethnic group, making it an ethnoreligious group...

ah hell.

Modifié par Biotic Sage, 03 septembre 2013 - 06:13 .

[In Exile]

Biotic Sage wrote...
But...I thought "saarebas" was a name that denotes a Qunari mage?  Or does it only denote a Qunari mage but not a Kossith mage?  But then why is the race called "Qunari?"  Then we're getting into the whole thing of "Jewish" because it's a religion but it's also an ethnic group, making it an ethnoreligious group...

ah hell.

Yeah, I'm not touching all of that. 

[Spectre slayer]

Biotic Sage wrote...

DooomCookie wrote...

Spectre slayer wrote...

Some of that stuff hasn't been announced yet so can't help to much

1. There has been evidence of dual welding warriors returning

2. Weapons are class restricted but you can use any weapon type in your class.

3. Qunari are playable and have access to all classes

4. Not sure about body sliders but they have mentioned tattao's and possibly scars recently but weren't specific

5. Nothing on specializations yet.

Where did you hear that Qunari would not be class restricted?

And I'd be keen for tattoos.   

I've heard some others say this, but I don't have a link or quote.  I did see in the Pax Demo video that was on YouTube that one of the save file screens showed a player character listed as "Race: Qunari" "Class: Rogue."  And I'm 100% certain you can be a Qunari Warrior, that's just obvious.  So Mage is up in the air?  Saarebas!

mobile.twitter.com/Mike_Laidlaw/status/374203114892832768


Mage Qunari confirmed, Sarebas  is a no

mobile.twitter.com/dragonage/status/374562954244419584
 
^Qunari might follow Qun or might not 

Modifié par Spectre slayer, 03 septembre 2013 - 06:32 .

[Okamiden556]

Things should play out a little differently IMO, shapeshifters should have had an armour spec for the magic stat (to encourage use of the bear form, direbear, etc.) And more spells should be available for mage combat (ice blades to put mages on par with swords, stronger rock armour, magic based yrden-style traps, etc.) but we'll see i suppose.

[Morroian]

Maiden Crowe wrote...

Just wondering how flexible the classes will be, will we have more options and specializations to choose from? Will Warriors be able to dual wield again? Will there be any sort of Arcane Warrior spec for mages? Or will it be similar to DA2 where classes will be more restrictive and fairly rooted in whatever role they fill?

Also how in depth are we talking with Character customization? Tattoos, scars, body sliders?

Apparently mages can wear heavy armor.

[Maiden Crowe]

Oh while we are at it, it has been said that we will be able to create our own weapons and armour as well and name them all sorts of stupid things, hopefully customization of weapons includes more than just changing their names.

[Okamiden556]

Morroian wrote...

Maiden Crowe wrote...

Just wondering how flexible the classes will be, will we have more options and specializations to choose from? Will Warriors be able to dual wield again? Will there be any sort of Arcane Warrior spec for mages? Or will it be similar to DA2 where classes will be more restrictive and fairly rooted in whatever role they fill?

Also how in depth are we talking with Character customization? Tattoos, scars, body sliders?

Apparently mages can wear heavy armor.

But can they use swords? A mage with a warhammer shouldn't be so foreign y'know? Being magically inckined doesn't equal scrawny

[Okamiden556]

Okamiden556 wrote...

Morroian wrote...

Maiden Crowe wrote...

Just wondering how flexible the classes will be, will we have more options and specializations to choose from? Will Warriors be able to dual wield again? Will there be any sort of Arcane Warrior spec for mages? Or will it be similar to DA2 where classes will be more restrictive and fairly rooted in whatever role they fill?

Also how in depth are we talking with Character customization? Tattoos, scars, body sliders?

Apparently mages can wear heavy armor.

But can they use swords? A mage with a warhammer shouldn't be so foreign y'know? Being magically inclined doesn't equal scrawny

[Karach_Blade]

I would love to see body sliders just so I can make a buff female mage or a flat-chested female warrior because I like variety. Same goes for my buff rogue male and lean warrior male.

[Sol Downer]

Maiden Crowe wrote...

Oh while we are at it, it has been said that we will be able to create our own weapons and armour as well and name them all sorts of stupid things, hopefully customization of weapons includes more than just changing their names.

Awww yeah, legendary set of armor here I come! I'mma call it my Blitz Set! All custom armor must now have it's own mythos and description!
Greatsword: Flash's Dream "To sever painful bonds."
Helmet: Flash's Myth "To hide a legend's true intentions."
Armor: Flash's Hope "To protect a betrayer's heart."
Gauntlets: Flash's Desire "To take hold of a brighter future."
Boots: Flash's Wish "To take the first steps in a new world."

Now with those epic names and descriptions, what would I possibly upgrade, enchant, and enhance to give it the worth it needs for these advancements? The set will be derivative of...the starter warrior set.

Modifié par Ultimashade, 03 septembre 2013 - 07:22 .

[Biotic Sage]

Faerunner wrote...

Biotic Sage wrote...

But...I thought "saarebas" was a name that denotes a Qunari mage?  Or does it only denote a Qunari mage but not a Kossith mage?  But then why is the race called "Qunari?"  Then we're getting into the whole thing of "Jewish" because it's a religion but it's also an ethnic group, making it an ethnoreligious group...

ah hell.

You're the one that threw out "the whole thing of 'Jewish'", not us. Frankly, I don't want to touch on that.
Yeah, "Qunari" as a blanket term for both race and culture is not misleading at all.

I was drawing a parallel between the two, I wasn't trying to put words into anyone's mouth.  And there is an objective parallel between the two considering the lore the devs have set up.  They are both ethnoreligious groups; they are both an entire people who so overwhelmingly subscribe to a belief that the term describes both their belief and their ethnicity.  I'm not sure why everyone's acting like they are "afraid to touch this" in terms of it being racist or something, which it clearly isn't.  I can certainly understand someone not wanting to touch it in terms of how confusing it can be, which it is.

I think having the term Qunari be used for describing both race and culture/religion/philosophy, what have you, is interesting mostly because of the real world parallels.