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Is DA:I Bioware's "last chance" for you?

Débuté par Guest_The Mad Hanar_* , sept. 03 2013 04:19

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zMataxa
Posté 03 septembre 2013 - 09:55

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cjones91 wrote...

zMataxa wrote...

cjones91 wrote...

Really now?Last of Us,Assasin's Creed,Legend of Zelda,Metal Gear Solid,Bioshock:Infinite and tons of other games are worse than Bioware's worst games?


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Actually what you are seeing is a preference by SOME of us gameplayers.
And your list contains come of the ways/environments you prefer to play.
Some of us actually really like the whole settings/interactions and feel of Bioware games - even with their flaws.B)


The person said 99% of today's games are worse than Bioware's worst games,that to me reeks of fanboyism instead of being a matter of preference.


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I sort of seconded it already by saying "Well said" - so i feel entitled to offer a partial reply.
In my case, I really like what the Bioware studio does and put them first in my time allocation scheme.
Is that a strong preference or fanboyism?  That's a debate that will likely never end.:P

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Posté 03 septembre 2013 - 09:58

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zMataxa wrote...

cjones91 wrote...

zMataxa wrote...

cjones91 wrote...

Really now?Last of Us,Assasin's Creed,Legend of Zelda,Metal Gear Solid,Bioshock:Infinite and tons of other games are worse than Bioware's worst games?


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Actually what you are seeing is a preference by SOME of us gameplayers.
And your list contains come of the ways/environments you prefer to play.
Some of us actually really like the whole settings/interactions and feel of Bioware games - even with their flaws.B)


The person said 99% of today's games are worse than Bioware's worst games,that to me reeks of fanboyism instead of being a matter of preference.


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I sort of seconded it already by saying "Well said" - so i feel entitled to offer a partial reply.
In my case, I really like what the Bioware studio does and put them first in my time allocation scheme.
Is that a strong preference or fanboyism?  That's a debate that will likely never end.:P




There's nothing wrong with prefering Bioware's games,in fact I like their stories and characters.However I'm not going to say the other 99% of games are somehow worse because it would be false.

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Posté 03 septembre 2013 - 09:59

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cjones91 wrote...
The person said 99% of today's games are worse than Bioware's worst games,that to me reeks of fanboyism instead of being a matter of preference.


You're being disingenuous, they said they enjoyed the games more. Well, me too. Of the list of examples you gave there's only one that even registered on my radar as something I'd think of playing. Different people have different tastes. And no I am not mistaken about my taste in games.

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Posté 03 septembre 2013 - 09:59

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I'm going to get DA:I but not on day 1 and i won't be getting any CE editions either.

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Posté 03 septembre 2013 - 10:01

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Here's a strange idea: People have preferences that may not line up with your own. That doesn't make them less true for that person, as game enjoyment is subjective. Disagreeing is ok. Agreeing is ok. Tada.

Anywho, I believe that DA:I has the potential to be one of the best Bioware games.

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Posté 03 septembre 2013 - 10:04

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cjones91 wrote...

zMataxa wrote...



I sort of seconded it already by saying "Well said" - so i feel entitled to offer a partial reply.
In my case, I really like what the Bioware studio does and put them first in my time allocation scheme.
Is that a strong preference or fanboyism?  That's a debate that will likely never end.:P




There's nothing wrong with prefering Bioware's games,in fact I like their stories and characters.However I'm not going to say the other 99% of games are somehow worse because it would be false.


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OK.  :D  Fair enough.  Thanx for clarifying. 
True. "Worse" is a loaded term.  Mind you so is " Fanboyism. "
But your posts after that were perfect for clarifying.  Thanx.:)

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Posté 03 septembre 2013 - 10:04

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Yes, if Dragon Age: Inquisition turns out to be a sub-par game, I won't buy another BioWare game, and either way I am done with the Mass Effect series forever, the "artistic integrity" of Mass Effect 3 ruined the entire series for me.

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Posté 03 septembre 2013 - 10:05

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cjones91 wrote...

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 No, because I enjoy even Bioware's worst games better than 99% of all other games out there.  My complaints about their last few games haven't been because those games were bad.  They've been because Bioware can do better than that because they have before. 

Really now?Last of Us,Assasin's Creed,Legend of Zelda,Metal Gear Solid,Bioshock:Infinite and tons of other games are worse than Bioware's worst games?I smell fanboyism seeping through your post.


:huh: Okay, if having favorite games makes me guilty of fanboyism than sure, I guess I'm a fanboy (fangirl, actually).  And yes, I think Bioware's games are better than each of the games on that list that I've played.  (Can't speak to Metal Gear because I never played it). The best game I have ever played, BG2, was a Bioware game.   I could write a really long wall o' text explaining *why* I think that, but something tells me you aren't really that interested and it wouldn't convince you anyway.

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Posté 03 septembre 2013 - 10:06

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Umm what's "artistic integrity of ME3" mean?

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Posté 03 septembre 2013 - 10:08

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I would say that Bioware games provide the most amount of replayability of any other games, with all the role playing and character creating you can do. I'd regard DA:O as the best example that I've played, and ME3 as the worst example I've played.

As for Bioware games being the best? I'm not sure I'd say that. I think "best" could be redefined as "most enjoyable" and I have more fun with multiplayer games.


(Oh, and play nice. This thread is going well so far.)

Modifié par The Mad Hanar, 03 septembre 2013 - 10:09 .

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Posté 03 septembre 2013 - 10:09

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I have had my disappointments with the DA and ME teams, but it has never reached the "last chance" line. DA2 was never a disappoitment for me, it may have lacked some of the elements that made DAO tremendous but I still enjoyed the game enough. ME3 was a major disappoitment for me, but the ME team may be able to catch my interest again with ME4.

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Posté 03 septembre 2013 - 10:14

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The Mad Hanar wrote...

With many people either being disappointed by SWTOR, DA2 or ME3, I'm just curious how many feel that this is Bioware's last chance to produce a "must buy", a pre-order or limited edition purchase from them. Or is Dragon Age the only series you play? Oooor is DA2 (or those other games, but DA2 is more relevant to DAI) wasn't a disappointment to you at all? This really isn't a thread to bash or praise Bioware, I just want to get a sense of where the fanbase is. 'Cause curiousity and all that.


I never cared for the ME series, and hate the Star Wars universe with a passion, so I wouldn't touch an mmo based on it. No cause for disappointment there.

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Posté 03 septembre 2013 - 10:15

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zMataxa wrote...

Umm what's "artistic integrity of ME3" mean?


I would guess it means Bioware's dumb defense of ME3's horrid ending.  That's what I always take that to mean. 

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Posté 03 septembre 2013 - 10:21

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Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

I would guess it means Casey Hudson's dumb defense of ME3's horrid ending.  That's what I always take that to mean. 


I fixed that for you. ^.^

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Posté 03 septembre 2013 - 10:21

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I'm going to get DA:I but not on day 1 and i won't be getting any CE editions either.

Pretty much this.
It's a different team from ME3 which brings my hopes high. But if they screw this time... well, it cannot be possible AS BAD as ME3 was anyway, so I'll be fine. :)

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Posté 03 septembre 2013 - 10:23

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No, it isn't.

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Posté 03 septembre 2013 - 10:24

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My only major disappointment so far with one of BioWare's games was ME3, but that's enough for me to take the "wait and see" approach now rather than buying on day one like I did with the past few releases. And good thing too, because I've already found one feature in DAI that could potentially be a deal-breaker. It's not really a last chance since I'll still be reading up on BioWare's games even if I decide against getting DAI, but I will definitely be waiting to get the full information, user reviews and spoilers before buying from now on.

(Just for reference, the BioWare games I've enjoyed and even count among my favorites include ME1&2, DAO + Awakening and DA2, and Jade Empire. I'm also enjoying my first playthrough of KOTOR so far. I've never played SWTOR. There were parts of ME3 that I liked - but the endings, large amounts of content unavailable without an internet connection, and autodialogue pretty much combined most of the things that I hate in gaming.)

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Posté 03 septembre 2013 - 10:45

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Nope.

Naughty God / DICE / Bioware = Preorder.

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#144
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Posté 03 septembre 2013 - 10:51

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No. While Bioware has had a few trips, they've never made a bad game.
I think they've earned enough good will to get away with a few mistakes.

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Posté 03 septembre 2013 - 10:53

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ArtemisMoons wrote...

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

I would guess it means Casey Hudson's dumb defense of ME3's horrid ending.  That's what I always take that to mean. 


I fixed that for you. ^.^


Nah. BW stood by Hudson and Walters, so it´s their fault too.

And yes, if DA:I screws up, I´m done with BW. Fortunately there are a lot of KS I´m interested in.

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Posté 03 septembre 2013 - 10:55

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Posté 03 septembre 2013 - 11:06

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They messed up with DA:2 Though I liked The add ons.
They messed up with ME3 Though I liked Omega add on.
But, In all honesty, most of the time they get it right. compared to The Super crashers, you know, the games companies that act like MS did a few years ago.
I am so looking forward to DA:I as I could do with a good game to get stuck into.

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Posté 03 septembre 2013 - 11:08

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I think so, yes. But I think Bioware will really get back on track with this game.

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Posté 03 septembre 2013 - 11:08

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Black Jimmy wrote...

No. While Bioware has had a few trips, they've never made a bad game.
I think they've earned enough good will to get away with a few mistakes.

The problem is they lost alot of that goodwill with their recent PR blunders.

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Posté 03 septembre 2013 - 11:08

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I'll read the reviews. I'm already forever past the point of ever outright trusting them again. My esteem for them might go up again, but I'm never going to take their games for granted again, and I'm certainly never going to trust their hype or hold any writer for granted, especially after the ME3 PR fiasco.

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