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[Ferretinabun]

PinkDiamondstl wrote...

 DAI everything about romance . www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2013/08/28/romance-in-dragon-age.aspx

From that article...

""Previously, we had a lot of the follower content gated by your approval rating. Whereas what we're doing now, we're having a lot more of your content event-driven," Gaider says. "The approval you're at informs the nature of the conversation."

This pleases me. A lot.

Modifié par Ferretinabun, 04 septembre 2013 - 02:00 .

[Wheel_of_Fate]

Morocco Mole wrote...

They said no one cared enough and they are cutting romances. Instead focusing on making compelling characters without pandering to creeps who want to **** them.

That would actually increase my respect for EAware. At least then I'd have the impression some of the folks there actually got enough balls to make a point instead of being cash-grabbers.

[Wheel_of_Fate]

David7204 wrote...

If you haven't noticed, basically any attractive character gets a backlash. They get accusations that they must have been attractive for attention. For advertising. For 13-year-old boys and basement dwellers.

Wow. This guy gets it. My mind = blown. Seriously.

[DatOneFanboy]

My son. 10/10

[Bayonet Hipshot]

What did they say about romance ?

Well, Sandal is confirmed as an LI.

Enchantment ?

[agonis]

David7204 wrote...

If you haven't noticed, basically any attractive character gets a backlash. They get accusations that they must have been attractive for attention. For advertising. For 13-year-old boys and basement dwellers...

Now that is an interesting concept... And it makes a lot of sense. That theory explains a lot of companion threads. Thanks for explaining.

[syllogi]

David7204 wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

David7204 wrote...

These attitudes tie heavily into a feminist concept known as 'Effortless Perfection.' One of the fairly few I find merit in. I've been meaning to write a paper on it sooner or later.

Care to give us a synopsis of your application of the concept, David?

Basically, physical beauty is appreciated as a good and desireable thing, but only so long as it's effortless.

As soon as effort is put into creating or maintaining beauty, a great deal of negative perceptions pour in that wouldn't otherwise be there.

Obviously, this has a huge impact on fiction and video games in particular, since everything that exists must be specifically put in by the developers.

That's not a feminist concept.  That's the subject of a One Direction song.

[OLDIRTYBARON]

David7204 wrote...

Well, beauty in the abstract is pretty much good by definition. You know, you think of something like a goddess or a nymph. In the myths, they always exist above humanity, or in isolation from it. Goddesses aren't beautiful for any particular reason, they aren't beautiful for man's benefit, they just are.

But when people consider man-made beauty, the tend to look at the apparent motivations and get angry. Why is she beautiful? It must be to seduce me! To get my money! To get my attention! How dare she! The fact that she put effort into it must be proof! A goddess is beautiful simply because she is. But the woman who put effort into it must have done it for a reason.

If you haven't noticed, basically any attractive character gets a backlash. They get accusations that they must have been attractive for attention. For advertising. For 13-year-old boys and basement dwellers.

The logic is pretty much as follows:

- Alice is attractive.

- Alice doesn't have to be attractive! Her character would function without it! The story would function without it! The developers must have made her attractive for a reason!

- Alice must be attractive because the developers want to bring in basement-dwelling teenagers! It's so obvious!

This **** is the straight truth right here.

[Bionuts]

David7204 wrote...

Well, beauty in the abstract is pretty much good by definition. You know, you think of something like a goddess or a nymph. In the myths, they always exist above humanity, or in isolation from it. Goddesses aren't beautiful for any particular reason, they aren't beautiful for man's benefit, they just are.

But when people consider man-made beauty, the tend to look at the apparent motivations and get angry. Why is she beautiful? It must be to seduce me! To get my money! To get my attention! How dare she! The fact that she put effort into it must be proof! A goddess is beautiful simply because she is. But the woman who put effort into it must have done it for a reason.

If you haven't noticed, basically any attractive character gets a backlash. They get accusations that they must have been attractive for attention. For advertising. For 13-year-old boys and basement dwellers.

The logic is pretty much as follows:

- Alice is attractive.

- Alice doesn't have to be attractive! Her character would function without it! The story would function without it! The developers must have made her attractive for a reason!

- Alice must be attractive because the developers want to bring in basement-dwelling teenagers! It's so obvious!

Don't most women simply want to feel attractive? Self-esteem? Like most people?

I don't care if there is beauty in a game. Witcher 2 made those sorceresses gorgeous. But the beauty of characters also fit.

I think Mass Effect did a good job. Not everyone looked like a model. Most were normal looking. I think people just like to complain about things.

[TheInquisitor]

Jonathan Perry said this -

“The direction I’d like to take the relationship scenes in is like they were in Mass Effect, where you might have a character that’s nude but they are silhouetted or in shadow, so it’s tastefully sensual and not graphic.''

“I certainly want to stay away from kind of lace-underwear-Victoria-Secret-lingerie that was in Origins because that was a little out of place – I’d hate to imagine what underwear would really be like after questing all day.”

[DarkKnightHolmes]

They said all LI are brood mothers.

Modifié par DarkKnightHolmes, 04 septembre 2013 - 02:31 .

[Wulfram]

TristanHawke wrote...

“I certainly want to stay away from kind of lace-underwear-Victoria-Secret-lingerie that was in Origins because that was a little out of place – I’d hate to imagine what underwear would really be like after questing all day.”

Uh, lace underwear?  I think he must have used a mod.

[MrTijger]

Bionuts wrote...

Don't most women simply want to feel attractive? Self-esteem? Like most people?

I don't care if there is beauty in a game. Witcher 2 made those sorceresses gorgeous. But the beauty of characters also fit.

I think Mass Effect did a good job. Not everyone looked like a model. Most were normal looking. I think people just like to complain about things.

Not to go too much off topic but the lore of Witcher speaks of sorceresses making themselves beautiful by way of magic, its said that Geralt great love Yennefer was actually born as a hunchback, their powers give them the option of being beautiful instead and apparently they're all very eager to take that option.

How you interpret that is up to you, ofcourse.

[Plaintiff]

Wheel_of_Fate wrote...

Morocco Mole wrote...

They said no one cared enough and they are cutting romances. Instead focusing on making compelling characters without pandering to creeps who want to **** them.

That would actually increase my respect for EAware. At least then I'd have the impression some of the folks there actually got enough balls to make a point instead of being cash-grabbers.

Lulz.

"Don't pander to that market. Have some courage and integrity and pander to my market!"

[Dhiro]

When you start a new character you will be prompted to customize your romance. The choices are as follows:

Regular Romance
No Romance
Eagle Romance
Blood Pact Romance
Weird Romance
Dreadnought Romance
Dark Romance
Fear Romance and finally,
Eternal Romance

[AutumnWitch]

SergeantSnookie wrote...

In a strange bit of game design, every potential romance character will be anti-playersexual and will always have the opposite sexual inclination of your player character. Thus, they can never be achieved. Nobody's really sure why they're there at all.

That would actually be quite funny....I don't want it to happen but can you imagine the explosions on the forums lol

[Eagle Pusuit]

They said that your LI's chasteness will be tied to difficulty level. The harder the game, the more you have to do in order to sex them. At maximum difficulty, you actually have to plan a wedding and marry them.*

*not even remotely true

[upsettingshorts]

Nothing, but I did suggest romance-able skulls to skull enthusiast Matt Goldman. They may be a possibility. Luke Kristjanson seemed to be on board, but shared with us a warning, "If they make it in [the game], don't trust them."

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 04 septembre 2013 - 10:53 .

[General TSAR]

Yes what did they say about BioWare's newest dating simulator?

(I wish the romances were cut just to see the nerds crying out for their waifu or husibiu)

[Taleroth]

I still want my bromance system.

Or at least romanceable doors.

[Plaintiff]

Dhiro wrote...

When you start a new character you will be prompted to customize your romance. The choices are as follows:

Regular Romance
No Romance
Eagle Romance
Blood Pact Romance
Weird Romance
Dreadnought Romance
Dark Romance
Fear Romance and finally,
Eternal Romance

There's no Bad Romance?

[Dhiro]

Plaintiff wrote...

Dhiro wrote...

When you start a new character you will be prompted to customize your romance. The choices are as follows:

Regular Romance
No Romance
Eagle Romance
Blood Pact Romance
Weird Romance
Dreadnought Romance
Dark Romance
Fear Romance and finally,
Eternal Romance

There's no Bad Romance?

Fenris isn't in the game.

[DarkKnightHolmes]

Dhiro wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

Dhiro wrote...

When you start a new character you will be prompted to customize your romance. The choices are as follows:

Regular Romance
No Romance
Eagle Romance
Blood Pact Romance
Weird Romance
Dreadnought Romance
Dark Romance
Fear Romance and finally,
Eternal Romance

There's no Bad Romance?

Fenris isn't in the game.

[Plaintiff]

Dhiro wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

Dhiro wrote...

When you start a new character you will be prompted to customize your romance. The choices are as follows:

Regular Romance
No Romance
Eagle Romance
Blood Pact Romance
Weird Romance
Dreadnought Romance
Dark Romance
Fear Romance and finally,
Eternal Romance

There's no Bad Romance?

Fenris isn't in the game.

Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurn.

[Nyneve]

Dhiro wrote...

When you start a new character you will be prompted to customize your romance. The choices are as follows:

Regular Romance
No Romance
Eagle Romance
Blood Pact Romance
Weird Romance
Dreadnought Romance
Dark Romance
Fear Romance and finally,
Eternal Romance

And now, the weather.