Element 0 wrote...
Good luck. I hope you get Collectors all the time.
Luckily, when I play my Vanguard's I always host, which means it's usually U/Cerby/Geth/Reapers. Eff unknown enemy, everytime I choose unknown it feels like half the time I get collectors.
kouzrah wrote...
I don't understand. We're not talking about a plat solo here, are we? The classic no shockwave novaguard works perfectly in plat provided you take incendiary ammo or that you have a buddy that will prime targets for you. If you know how to kite bosses and if you don't get some ****ty set up like geth london, you should be alright.
I'm crazy, but not crazy enough to attempt a plat solo with a kit so vulnerable to focus fire/syncs.
I asked for alternate builds just to see if there's anyone who had found a way to actually make shockwave more than a situational power on the novaguard, it appears not though so I'm going to stay specced out of it.
Olaf_de_IJsbeer wrote...
Reminds me of a game I just played against Reapers. I thought: "Eh, it's all right if I charge a Banshee while she's got the glowy thing on as long as I roll away immediately afterwards."
Then I got skewered and I remembered that doesn't work if the Banshee is also stationary/walking instead of teleporting.
So yes, you definitely have to remember that.
Only recently have I learned when it's safe/unsafe to charge a banshee, I've been facing reapers a lot with my novaguard because I'm sick of getting sh*t on by banshees so I'm trying to get better at killing them without being synced myself.
kouzrah wrote...
About charging banshee, the mistake I often do is being cornered by a banshee and then trying to charge something that's behind her to escape. She usually catches me easily...
Happens to me all the time, I'm always like "yes, follow me banshee so that I can BC far away from you. B)" NOPE I start floating in the air halfway across the map and get synced. Stupid banshees.
rlucht wrote...
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Given your manifest, that is the build I would recommend. As you said, Nova's damage on plat is underwhelming so I feel weapon damage on charge is more useful. Power recharge is great especially if you nova first and the charge, that way you're already getting the bonus on your 1st cooldown. But half blast is ok to if you really prefer it.
Taking radius on nova allows you to use it near synch kill enemies and hit them with it without them being close enough to synch you. Just nova then roll away. Incendiary ammo for setting up your own FE's and the raw damage output of the hurricane should help you to contribute more towards the team's total DPS while still beings just as effective of a detonator for the team.
On primes synch killers: shoot, nova just out of their synch range, roll away and repeat.
On anything else: shoot as you/they close the distance, nova once they are close, charge, shoot, nova, charge shoot nova, etc... (If you have half blast then novaing before your 1st charge is less important, this is bfor recharge speed nova)
Hmm, I'll spec my female vanguard for weapon synergy and power recharge on nova to give that build a try. I'm just a bit worried about making nova even weaker than it already is, considering I tend to use nova all the time for i-frames and damage/stagger.
I don't need radius on nova, I've been practicing letting banshee's chase me and stopping to nova at oppurtune times, and I've gotten pretty good at hitting them with my nova without exposing myself to sync kills. Not the most efficient way to kill banshees but it's certainly better than not helping at all.
I was considering taking the hurricane on my novaguard, but... It just feels wrong to
not use a shotgun on the novaguard, y'know? Plus I've used the hurricane on my Havoc and Drellgod and don't like that I have to stand in one spot for a while to do damage, I'd much rather BC-dodge-nova-dodge-wraith-dodge-nova instead of BC'ing an enemy and then standing there for a few seconds to do some damage. I'll still give it a go on my female novaguard, who know's maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised.
Yo Son wrote...
I spec out of biotic charge on plat; is so tempting pressing that button when your shield is down, but sadly is mostly likely to get me sync killed when I use it, so i just kill things the old fashion way, gun.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, NO NO NO NO!<_< If you don't use BC, you may as well play a different class, playing a vanguard is all about high risk-high reward playstyle, you should be up in the enemies face destroying them in seconds with CQC attacks, not hiding and shooting your gun and using nova when enemies get to close.
At least IMHO. :happy:
Yo Son wrote...
robarcool wrote...
Yo Son wrote...
I spec out of biotic charge on plat; is so tempting pressing that button when your shield is down, but sadly is mostly likely to get me sync killed when I use it, so i just kill things the old fashion way, gun.
If you know what you re doing, biotic charge isn't worth skipping anywhere.
I understand sync kill behavior but a human vanguard is not exactly the best kit to bring to plat with an 8 enemy composition, when 3-4 of those enemies will have sync kill abilities. Then agian am no jimi hendrix.
Just be smart when you BC a sync kill capable unit, save the hardest ones for last like banshees/praetorians etc and focus on taking out enemies that don't present much of a threat to you, but are threatening your team. (Groups of enemies, ravagers, brutes, phantoms, dragoons etc.)
Once again, thanks for all the replies everyone, there's a lot of useful information in this thread. Who knows, maybe I'll run into more BSN'ers using the novaguard now that I've put him back into everyone's mind.
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