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[Ianamus]

TTTX wrote...

EJ107 wrote...

And what about the mages who are too lazy, weak or reckless to willingly accept the proper training? Are they left in their villages, just waiting to become abominations?

You're assuming that 1: All Mages are strong enough to resisit demons. As the games have shown, this is not true. There will always be mages who are simply too weak to resist demons, and are doomed to become abominations sooner or later. 

And 2: All mages will be willing to learn how to control their powers. In your hypothetical world a mage who just didn't care how to control their powers could walk around freely, just waiting to set something on fire by accident or be possesed because they lack the proper training. 

No, training should be mandatory and forced if nessary.

Also, abominations happens even when the circle system was there and you don't have to be a mage in order to become a abomination/monster/undead.

I was speaking more generally to the people who said that joining the circle should be optional. Even if it acts as a boarding school or academy attendance would still have to mandatory for eveyone's safety, so you would still be forcing people away from the lives and families, potentially unwillingly. 

And actually as a general rule you do have to be a mage to become an abomination. Or at least you need to have a mage there to summon the demon and bind it to the mundane's body in order to get it to work. In fact, whenever we have seen a non-mage turn into a monster or an undead a mage was always involved  as an outside party, so they don't really count. 

The only exception I can think of is red lyrium turing Meredith into a very powerful and very insane person. Even then Lyrium is a magical substance. 

Modifié par EJ107, 04 septembre 2013 - 04:35 .

[maliluka]

I think the mages need to learn to control their magic, but I certainly don't think they need to be put in a prison to learn it

[TTTX]

EJ107 wrote...

I was speaking more generally to the people who said that joining the circle should be optional. Even if it acts as a boarding school or academy attendance would still have to mandatory for eveyone's safety, so you would still be forcing people away from the lives and families, potentially unwillingly. 

And actually as a general rule you do have to be a mage to become an abomination. Or at least you need to have a mage there to summon the demon and bind it to the mundane's body in order to get it to work. In fact, whenever we have seen a non-mage turn into a monster or an undead a mage was always involved  as an outside party, so they don't really count. 

The only exception I can think of is red lyrium turing Meredith into a very powerful and very insane person. Even then Lyrium is a magical substance. 

You are wrong.

The veil can be thined or outright shattered by a lot of death (eksample war like in in the forest in DA:O) and if the veil is thin then Demons and spirits can enter and posses what ever they want (although mages is the perfered target, but any mortal would do depending on the circurmstanses) or outright walk into the mortal world. Just saying.

[MrTijger]

Inprea wrote...

Jaison1986 wrote...

If by right you mean leaving all the heavy lifting to the slaves. Fenris says as much mentioning that slaves are core of the Imperium, and without their labors, they would cumble.

Because Fenris is totally unbias in his opinions? I do not consider a former slave with a grudge to be a reliable source of information anymore then pro templars trust Anders to be unbias in his evaulation of the templars or circles.

All true but note that Anders was just as vehement about Merrill and her dealings with demons as he was about Templars, so I think its fair to say that even the best intentioned mages can screw up royally not to mention the ones like Uldred who simply want the power to rule.