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[Plaintiff]

Morocco Mole wrote...

feminine does not equal unnecessary sexualization.

And how do you determine when it is or is not necessary?

[laudable11]

You ever see a female firefighter run? Ya ever see a female cop run? How about a female marine?
I like sexy looking women in games but DA2 over did it.

[MrTijger]

Morocco Mole wrote...

feminine does not equal unnecessary sexualization.

Define unnecessary. Merrill wasnt sexualized, Aveline wasnt, (female) Hawke wasnt which leaves Isabela who is deliberately sexualized (a condition existing RL btw) and yet a deeper character in many ways than others.

[Biotic Sage]

I personally wasn't bothered by stances or running styles at any point in the past, but I can see your complaint OP and considering that the graphics are less stylized and lean more toward realism in DA:I, I'm sure the body motions will reflect this shift as well. I doubt things will be as exaggerated.  From what I've seen of the gameplay from PAX, it looks good to me.

Modifié par Biotic Sage, 04 septembre 2013 - 10:03 .

[Ravensword]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Seboist wrote...

MrTijger wrote...

Morocco Mole wrote...

It's Bioware. They do not have a good track record with female characters lately.

Really? I'd say they did them better than most gaming companies,personally..

Like with how they used a skimpy outfit and juvenile ass shots with Miranda like something out of a Dead or Alive game?

Hahahaha and you've got a Witcher 2 sig.  You're sitting in a glass house and I can see Triss's boobs through it.

In any case, this thread just applied for an expiration date.  Enjoy the impending trainwreck.

The fact that he has a TW2 sig doesn't make the Miranda ass shots nonexistent. Much like Triss's boobs, thise ass shots are still there. You would think that the cinematographer (DOP or whatever the video game equivalent for it is) worked for Vivid Entertainment of Brazzers.

[Plaintiff]

Morocco Mole wrote...
When it becomes embarassing to look at. Like Femhawke.

So it's an entirely personal and subjective measure and thus utterly meaningless.

Neat.

[Biotic Sage]

Ravensword wrote...

The fact that he has a TW2 sig doesn't make the Miranda ass shots nonexistent. Much like Triss's boobs, thise ass shots are still there. You would think that the cinematographer (DOP or whatever the video game equivalent for it is) worked for Vivid Entertainment of Brazzers.

Brazzers!  Now don't insult them, I'm sure they'd much rather be compared to X-Art.

Witcher can be crass like Hustler while Dragon Age can be classy like Playboy.

Although didn't Triss appear in Playboy...?

lol this thread

[upsettingshorts]

Ravensword wrote...

The fact that he has a TW2 sig doesn't make the Miranda ass shots nonexistent. Much like Triss's boobs, thise ass shots are still there. You would think that the cinematographer (DOP or whatever the video game equivalent for it is) worked for Vivid Entertainment of Brazzers.

You may want to acquaint yourself with the meaning of the "those in glass houses shouldn't throw stones" idiom.

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 04 septembre 2013 - 10:09 .

[MrTijger]

Morocco Mole wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...
And how do you determine when it is or is not necessary?

When it becomes embarassing to look at. Like Femhawke.

Aveline wasnt

If only Aveline was in a better game.

If you think Femhawke was oversexualized because of that run animation then I can only say that this is the first time I've come across that particular fetish, I guess you cant even watch the ministry of silly walks sketch

[DaringMoosejaw]

I think the female running animation from Fallout 3 is even more ridiculous.

[Thomas Andresen]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Morocco Mole wrote...

Ironically, the Witcher 2 somehow managed to handle it better.

Their fans are certainly in agreement on that.

Funny how that works.

Plaintiff wrote...

Morocco Mole wrote...
When it becomes embarassing to look at. Like Femhawke.

So it's an entirely personal and subjective measure and thus utterly meaningless.

Neat.

Not that they'll ever admit it.

[MrTijger]

Biotic Sage wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

The fact that he has a TW2 sig doesn't make the Miranda ass shots nonexistent. Much like Triss's boobs, thise ass shots are still there. You would think that the cinematographer (DOP or whatever the video game equivalent for it is) worked for Vivid Entertainment of Brazzers.

Brazzers!  Now don't insult them, I'm sure they'd much rather be compared to X-Art.

Witcher can be crass like Hustler while Dragon Age can be classy like Playboy.

Although didn't Triss appear in Playboy...?

lol this thread

Yep, she did, if there's one company that's rather juvenile in their approach to female sexuality its definitely CDPR. I'm not slating them for it, they've been told this and I'm sure they'll improve on it in the next game.

[laudable11]

People who are in the middle of saving lives don't walk around like two dollar ****s. When a female firefighter comes to save someone she's not switching her hips like an idiot.

[Bayonet Hipshot]

Ugghh...BSN being BSN...

[Ravensword]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

The fact that he has a TW2 sig doesn't make the Miranda ass shots nonexistent. Much like Triss's boobs, thise ass shots are still there. You would think that the cinematographer (DOP or whatever the video game equivalent for it is) worked for Vivid Entertainment of Brazzers.

You may want to acquaint yourself with the meaning of the "those in glass houses shouldn't throw stones" idiom.

And you may want to acquaint yourself w/ the meaning of tu quoque; appeal to hypocrisy.

[upsettingshorts]

Ravensword wrote...

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

The fact that he has a TW2 sig doesn't make the Miranda ass shots nonexistent. Much like Triss's boobs, thise ass shots are still there. You would think that the cinematographer (DOP or whatever the video game equivalent for it is) worked for Vivid Entertainment of Brazzers.

You may want to acquaint yourself with the meaning of the "those in glass houses shouldn't throw stones" idiom.

And you may want to acquaint yourself w/ the meaning of tu quoque; appeal to hypocrisy.

Fair enough, I suppose.  Though I never defended Miranda, or EDI. 

[Star fury]

If you don't like this animation, you're misogynist!

[KiwiQuiche]

I do find it amusing how so many people act as if Bioware is a pinnacle for what the treatment of females should be like in video games. They are alright, but certainly not the top.

But yeah, the animators need to research how people run/walk.

[DaringMoosejaw]

laudable11 wrote...

People who are in the middle of saving lives don't walk around like two dollar ****s. When a female firefighter comes to save someone she's not switching her hips like an idiot.

People also can't telekinetically drain someone's life essence and people in video games rarely if ever go to the bathroom.

A great majority of games, especially RPGs, have characters in stylized outfits that are largely not very practical and certainly can go in the opposite direction into the absurdly impractical. It's an art decision, everybody does it, very few games I know make realism their watchword - like, say, Microsoft Flight Simulator, maybe? You can even expand this into a lot of media. Many things people do in movies, TV and books are not very realistic or practical.

I do agree some things they did with Miranda were silly, and perhaps the female walk animations in DA2 are a bit exaggerated (I do think the running with weapons animations are all pretty cool, though), but these things don't take over Bioware games. They're not as widespread as people make them out to believe.

Modifié par DaringMoosejaw, 04 septembre 2013 - 10:24 .

[Biotic Sage]

MrTijger wrote...

Yep, she did, if there's one company that's rather juvenile in their approach to female sexuality its definitely CDPR. I'm not slating them for it, they've been told this and I'm sure they'll improve on it in the next game.

By "improve" do you mean that they'll stop being juvenile or that they'll be an even higher quality level of juvenile?

I hope it's the latter because they've got a good thing going for them.  Even though I generally appreciate Bioware's less juvenile approach to their characters, that doesn't mean we can't live in a world with both.  Poop jokes can still be funny even if you appreciate nuanced humor as well.

[Biotic Sage]

The Sin wrote...

Ugghh...BSN being BSN...

Haha this is the funniest comment I've read all night, and a perfect response to this thread.  It's the nature of the beast, my friend.

[DaringMoosejaw]

Biotic Sage wrote...

MrTijger wrote...

Yep, she did, if there's one company that's rather juvenile in their approach to female sexuality its definitely CDPR. I'm not slating them for it, they've been told this and I'm sure they'll improve on it in the next game.

By "improve" do you mean that they'll stop being juvenile or that they'll be an even higher quality level of juvenile?

I hope it's the latter because they've got a good thing going for them.  Even though I generally appreciate Bioware's less juvenile approach to their characters, that doesn't mean we can't live in a world with both.  Poop jokes can still be funny even if you appreciate nuanced humor as well.

I just cannot get into The Witcher, even though I finished the first game I just couldn't make it very far into the second, because the atmosphere, story and the world just turn me off immediately and I find the protagonist extremely dull. My opinion, of course, but I'm looking forward to seeing what they do with Cyberpunk and see if things improve with a different franchise.

[ENTER THE VOID]

i hate slouched pos omg