Aaleel wrote...
This was probably my favorite design.
I wouldn't mind seeing these guys return again, they were pretty interesting.
please make darkspawn scary again
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Posté 04 septembre 2013 - 12:31
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I wouldn't mind seeing these guys return again, they were pretty interesting.
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Posté 04 septembre 2013 - 12:42
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Karlone123 wrote...
Aaleel wrote...
This was probably my favorite design.
I wouldn't mind seeing these guys return again, they were pretty interesting.
Same.
Also, in terms of creepiness, if not scariness, I would like to see the Children of the Mother in DA:I. One can only imagine how their 'evolution' would look in the Frostbite 3 engine.
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Posté 04 septembre 2013 - 12:49
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Better yet, don't have darkspawn at all in this game.
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Posté 04 septembre 2013 - 01:09
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darkspawn the plague of the world missing the end of the world?? NO WAY!
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Posté 04 septembre 2013 - 01:15
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The darkspawn were never scary.
The lead up to the broodmother was scary and creepy, but that appears to be a lightning strike event.
The lead up to the broodmother was scary and creepy, but that appears to be a lightning strike event.
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Posté 04 septembre 2013 - 01:35
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From what I remember, the description for Darkspawn were that they had withered, rotting flesh and constantly leaked a black ichor from their orifices. That's a lot different than what we got in DA:O. I'm surprised people say those were good designs when they were, essentially, orcs.
As for the Darkspawn look in DA2, I think the hurlock design was a step in the right direction, but it wasn't quite there. They needed to look more rotten and less Marilyn Manson fandom, I think. The Alphas and Genlock redesigns for Legacy were pretty sweet as well.Ultimately it's a difficult balance. You need to balance the horror of what these things look like with the tragedy of what they are. Mockeries of men. Deformed and misshapen, with no natural place in the ecosystem (proof of this is in their taint - that they corrupt all, even the very air they breathe). If the Darkspawn appear in DA3, I imagine it'll be an improved design and not just the DA2 models.
As for the Darkspawn look in DA2, I think the hurlock design was a step in the right direction, but it wasn't quite there. They needed to look more rotten and less Marilyn Manson fandom, I think. The Alphas and Genlock redesigns for Legacy were pretty sweet as well.Ultimately it's a difficult balance. You need to balance the horror of what these things look like with the tragedy of what they are. Mockeries of men. Deformed and misshapen, with no natural place in the ecosystem (proof of this is in their taint - that they corrupt all, even the very air they breathe). If the Darkspawn appear in DA3, I imagine it'll be an improved design and not just the DA2 models.
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Posté 04 septembre 2013 - 01:56
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but i like generic orcs, what genre are we playing here ;p
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Posté 04 septembre 2013 - 02:21
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Bioware should take a look at Dark Souls for some inspiration at creating real and amazing monsters and characters. At least Dark Souls did it right, for as little background the characters you interact with had.
Characters were interesting but that's about it. Unless your talking about aesthetics.
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Posté 04 septembre 2013 - 02:22
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simfamSP wrote...
Wheel_of_Fate wrote...
Bioware should take a look at Dark Souls for some inspiration at creating real and amazing monsters and characters. At least Dark Souls did it right, for as little background the characters you interact with had.
Characters were interesting but that's about it. Unless your talking about aesthetics.
Solaire was the Bro of Bros.
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Posté 04 septembre 2013 - 02:27
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DAO darkspawn please. The first time they got out of the korcari wilds showed that they were an army to be messed with. In DA2, they were just high.
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Posté 04 septembre 2013 - 02:28
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Kharaide wrote...
but i like generic orcs, what genre are we playing here ;p
What's gerneric?
You mean the human like creatures from the LotR movies.
The in games most used type of Orcs is the barbarian e.g. in TES, Warcraft, HoMM etc...
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Posté 04 septembre 2013 - 02:31
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I'm hoping for something different than both DAO + DA2. Just more grotesque representations of their origin race. Eerie instead of cliche.
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Posté 04 septembre 2013 - 02:37
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People bring up orcs alot here, when I found the DA2 bore more jarring similarities.
WHile darkspawn in DAO essentially looked like orcish burn victims, they moved and acted like they were somewhat human. As such they became more akin to the "mockery of man" flavor that Baron brought up, like the disease was mental as well as physical. These things were evil. Their vocalizations were interesting too, sounding like some sort of brutish language; as if they were trying to communicate with the player or amongst themselves.
The constant grin of the hurlocks, and the way they sometimes would laugh and mock their opponents was a nice touch too, giving the impression of liking the act of murder.
In DA2 they physically looked more diseased and human, yet they acted more like orcs, even animals sometimes. The way they scuttle around, hunched to the ground, hissing and snarling, seemingly without any thought in the matter, it's all very primal and instinctive. There's no technique in their fighting, and the weapons are raised over their heads like angry chimps with branches.
Also, the colourless design and blank facial expressions didn't give sense of any sort of intelligence or evil. Maybe that was the intent, but it didn't do my immersion any favors. I didn't feel like I was fighting something evil and dangerous, I was just carving through wave after wave of mindless, diseased beasts.
WHile darkspawn in DAO essentially looked like orcish burn victims, they moved and acted like they were somewhat human. As such they became more akin to the "mockery of man" flavor that Baron brought up, like the disease was mental as well as physical. These things were evil. Their vocalizations were interesting too, sounding like some sort of brutish language; as if they were trying to communicate with the player or amongst themselves.
The constant grin of the hurlocks, and the way they sometimes would laugh and mock their opponents was a nice touch too, giving the impression of liking the act of murder.
In DA2 they physically looked more diseased and human, yet they acted more like orcs, even animals sometimes. The way they scuttle around, hunched to the ground, hissing and snarling, seemingly without any thought in the matter, it's all very primal and instinctive. There's no technique in their fighting, and the weapons are raised over their heads like angry chimps with branches.
Also, the colourless design and blank facial expressions didn't give sense of any sort of intelligence or evil. Maybe that was the intent, but it didn't do my immersion any favors. I didn't feel like I was fighting something evil and dangerous, I was just carving through wave after wave of mindless, diseased beasts.
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Posté 04 septembre 2013 - 03:02
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It would be weird for darkspawn to have hair. Make it bald!
#41
Posté 04 septembre 2013 - 04:44
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I wouldn't mind them to look a bit more scary.
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Posté 04 septembre 2013 - 04:48
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I much preferred the DAO designs than the DA2 design for Darkspawn. Green is cool.
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Posté 04 septembre 2013 - 04:49
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Just bring back the hurlock's grin from Origins and don't make them do that silly dance.
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Posté 04 septembre 2013 - 04:54
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If remember good they said that they wanted to make darkspawns look more as race they were "before change" so after You see one you will be able to recognize rece.
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Posté 04 septembre 2013 - 05:00
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Origins looks would be better. DA2 looks I felt like i was killing the flying monkeys from wizard of oz that the wicked witch of the west has. Thats what DA2 Darkspawn remind me of. Legacy was a step up in the right direction for Darkspawn looks, I just wish getting that DLC resigned them for the main game too lol
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Posté 04 septembre 2013 - 05:04
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AstusOz wrote...
I'm hoping for something different than both DAO + DA2. Just more grotesque representations of their origin race. Eerie instead of cliche.
Exactly. Uncanny valley is the way to go if they're aiming for creepiness.
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Posté 04 septembre 2013 - 05:29
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The Darkspawn were never scary, they are unsettling and merciless creatures of war and destruction.
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Posté 04 septembre 2013 - 05:46
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I support scarier dark spawn. They never really hit that note and it created an odd disparity between the NPC's "Ahhh! The darkspawn!!" and then actually seeing/dealing with them.
It's probably too much to ask for, but, oh if they could convey the same threat and fear as the infected in The Last of Us. I was nervous every time.
It's probably too much to ask for, but, oh if they could convey the same threat and fear as the infected in The Last of Us. I was nervous every time.
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Posté 04 septembre 2013 - 08:59
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How about this one on the right?
THAT is excellent. I can't believe they didn't use it.
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Posté 04 septembre 2013 - 09:04
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greengoron89 wrote...
They did look pretty damn silly in DA2. The darkspawn are evil, unnatural creatures who spread a lethal taint to everyone and everything around them by simply being there, and their look should reflect that. They should be disgusting and diseased-looking, covered in pus, and blood, and god knows what else.
I thought this was a step in the right direction:
Do more of that, and less of this:
...err, sorry. Wrong picture. I mean this:
Yeah, don't do any more of that. That's not cool.
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