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#1376
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If a lady chooses to wear scanty armor into battle, who are we to criticize her choice? It worked for Miranda.

 

Cassandra certainly seems geared up to the max and even has that manly haircut going on with a couple scars. There are different kinds of characters and how they dress reflects that.

 

Cassandra's haircut is so not manly. It's a gorgeous short hairstyle and still feminine.

 

I always use Miranda's alt outfit in ME2 and subvert all the shots that literally focus on her ass instead of her face.

 

They should apologize for placing "sexy" over any number of attributes a female character might have, which historically isn't a problem with their male characters (and, sorry, bringing up a single dude in a series that only modeled both genders of their major alien species under duress, and who didn't hesitate to stick female humanoid strippers all over the galaxy, isn't exactly going to sway me). There was also EDI's design, and Ashley William's re-design, both of which were absolutely about the male gaze and taking characters that were perfectly fine as they were and making them "sexier". I get that you think it's awesome, and I agree that BW is way better than most companies (and I'd argue that the DA team is the best of them all for making a conscious effort to be inclusive and mindful of that line where "dudebro appeal" and "objectification" is located), but it's not something that people should just excuse and accept because it perpetuates objectification of women, which then persists in actual life and causes the actual dehumanization of women

 

As for The Witcher, I know at least twenty people in my ridiculously small circle of acquaintances who refuse to play The Witcher because of the rampant objectification and I notice that coming up, in a negative way, in almost every single conversation I see about it. So even though the series is doing great, it could be doing better and they could be building a more diverse fanbase for future projects. Alienating women while other companies are starting to realize that women make up a significant portion of gamers could very well bite them in the ass down the road. 

 

I never will play the Witcher, although I normally would have at least tried such a game because there are so few RPGs that aren't crap these days. Yet, everything I hear about it is a massive, massive turnoff.



#1377
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They should apologize for placing "sexy" over any number of attributes a female character might have, which historically isn't a problem with their male characters (and, sorry, bringing up a single dude in a series that only modeled both genders of their major alien species under duress, and who didn't hesitate to stick female humanoid strippers all over the galaxy, isn't exactly going to sway me). There was also EDI's design, and Ashley William's re-design, both of which were absolutely about the male gaze and taking characters that were perfectly fine as they were and making them "sexier". I get that you think it's awesome, and I agree that BW is way better than most companies (and I'd argue that the DA team is the best of them all for making a conscious effort to be inclusive and mindful of that line where "dudebro appeal" and "objectification" is located), but it's not something that people should just excuse and accept because it perpetuates objectification of women, which then persists in actual life and causes the actual dehumanization of women

 

As for The Witcher, I know at least twenty people in my ridiculously small circle of acquaintances who refuse to play The Witcher because of the rampant objectification and I notice that coming up, in a negative way, in almost every single conversation I see about it. So even though the series is doing great, it could be doing better and they could be building a more diverse fanbase for future projects. Alienating women while other companies are starting to realize that women make up a significant portion of gamers could very well bite them in the ass down the road. 

I didn't care for Ashley's redesign at all, I much preferred her original look as I thought it suited her character better. However, I don't believe Bioware does place "sexy" over other character attributes for any character in the game, except perhaps the strippers with no lines. This may be because a character's appearance is not that significant to me personally. EDI had a shapely body but how many people thought of her that way instead of as an incredibly helpful robot ally with some of the funniest lines in the game? I'm just speaking as one straight male here, can't possibly claim to represent the effect this has on males in a general sense, but I think you should give some of us a little more credit in terms of not being able to tell the difference between boobs and a personality (I read your linked article). Bioware putting Miranda in a tight suit didn't affect the way I saw the character and my assumption is that there are other guys out there like me who saw her as a person, not a body. I'd be interested to hear some other male points of view on how they feel it affected them. And lady POVs on those POVs. And so on. Maybe this is the wrong thread for that though.

 

The Witcher... that's interesting, a lot of my friends, men and women alike, prefer The Witcher 2 to DA because it's darker and more gritty (at least this is their description on a basic level, without going into depth). I typically am the one in the group being the Bioware fanboy and arguing it's superiority due to the more in-depth character interaction. Don't know that this means anything but I think among the folks I hang out with, sexuality is a much lesser factor in terms of deciding on the game we like better.



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Um can we not have a full blown argument about this in here, because it'll snowball out of control very easily.


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Um can we not have a full blown argument about this in here, because it'll snowball out of control very easily.

 

I just laughed so hard. Okay. New topic...

 

I'm very excited to read The Masked Empire. I'm already a little bit in love with Celene



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I need to pick up the Dragon Age novels before Inquisition I SWEAR I WILL. They seem so interesting, I also would love to decide the fate of Empress Celene just because it'll make me feel good about myself.



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Darth Krytie

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I just reread Asunder two days ago. It is sooooo good. I couldn't put it down once I started.



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I'm in pain because I can't get the masked empire for a whole week from now. I just know I'll see spoliers that people will post on these forums obvious to the fact that there might be people who haven't had the chance to read it two days after it got released. :pinched:



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They never made an audio book for Asunder did they? Hmm.....



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Just a casual reminder that TONIGHT IS THE PREMIERE FOR SEASON FOUR OF GAME OF THRONES.



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Speaking of bound by flame

WTF is commander Shepard doing there??

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I just reread Asunder two days ago. It is sooooo good. I couldn't put it down once I started.

 

I really liked Asunder as well. It's certainly my favourite of the DA novels, so far at least.

 

I'm really curious about The Masked Empire, hopefully I'll receive it by the end of this week :)


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Speaking of bound by flame

WTF is commander Shepard doing there??

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please don't be real



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please don't be real

The default male Shepard has a very generic handsome guy look. It's not that surprising to see a similar looking character pop up.


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is..is bound by flame a good game? anyone?
:0 i really need my fix on fantasy games



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Just started reading the book series (enjoying them so far) and have AC and Bound by Flame and soon Watch Dogs to pass the time.



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To be honest, the only thing that kept me from getting Bound by Flame was the forced straight romances.

 

I might give it a try if I'm bored enough, but I still think it was a bad idea for the makers

of the game to claim it to be like two games that offered that choice and then not have it.  :?


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To be honest, the only thing that kept me from getting Bound by Flame was the forced straight romances.

 

I might give it a try if I'm bored enough, but I still think it was a bad idea for the makers

of the game to claim it to be like two games that offered that choice and then not have it.  :?


Ditto, it was the same for me. I'd rather a game with no romances at all than one with forced straight ones.


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To be honest, the only thing that kept me from getting Bound by Flame was the forced straight romances.

 

I might give it a try if I'm bored enough, but I still think it was a bad idea for the makers

of the game to claim it to be like two games that offered that choice and then not have it.  :?

I watch a couple of people and one of them completely deleted their BbF playthrough because they hated the game... They put up a video titled 'Bound By Flame is a bad game and you shouldn't buy it'. He talked about there being a 'Discount Morrigan' in the game and also how your health doesn't go up at all. You have the same health from the beginning to the end of the game while enemies get more and more... Just very poor reviews all around for it from other sources.


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#1394
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So who else is just getting their hype back on now that we're so close?



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I watch a couple of people and one of them completely deleted their BbF playthrough because they hated the game... They put up a video titled 'Bound By Flame is a bad game and you shouldn't buy it'. He talked about there being a 'Discount Morrigan' in the game and also how your health doesn't go up at all. You have the same health from the beginning to the end of the game while enemies get more and more... Just very poor reviews all around for it from other sources.

 

Ouch. I haven't even seen any reviews, but I didn't expect something like that. Guess I'll have to go look up some reviews. Thanks for sharing!



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Ouch. I haven't even seen any reviews, but I didn't expect something like that. Guess I'll have to go look up some reviews. Thanks for sharing!


Here's a review. I actually never heard of the game until the guy I talked about put up the video about it being bad. Strangely enough TotalBiscuit seems to be somewhat forgiving about the game. Saying they were on the right track to making a good game, but not there yet. Considering he also said this is their second game.... Anyways, do research about the game and make your own opinion if you'd like.
P.S. Here's the video I was talking about with the 'discount Morrigan' comment and such:


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Ouch. I haven't even seen any reviews, but I didn't expect something like that. Guess I'll have to go look up some reviews. Thanks for sharing!

Reviews are pretty mixed. Check out the FAQ boards for some insight.

I am desparate for a good game. Have replayed dark arisen, uncharted series, etc. Nothing even interesting seems on the horizon. Cant imagine having to wait til October. Surely there must be a semi- decent game to play.

As an aside, I just finished Witcher 2. Like The Witcher you can chose where you want to go with the sex stuff, so hopefully that doesnt take away from the rest of the game. I am female and totally enjoyed both games.

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I dumped like 30 hours into BBF myself. IMO, 6/10, an average at best game.

 

I think they tried really hard to mix Witcher and ME together but ended up fell really really short.
 

Pros:

- Challenging combat.

- decent graphic (nothing too grant though. Can't stand a chance against AAA games but good enough I guess).

- nice world setting.

- nice music

- interesting crafting system.

 

Cons:

- Terrible voice acting. There are few so-so ones, but the rest are crap.

- Characters are underdeveloped, and dialogue feel weird at times.

- Story is underwhelming, sometime feel extremely rushed, lack any "grant feeling" event (something like Ostagar for instance), and the endings (yep, multiple endings) are just ...... wtf????!!!!!

- extremely limited character creation (huge turn off to me).

- kind of short for an RPG. My first playthrough was 17 hours. Second playthrough (finish all quests) was 15 - 16 hours. So yeah...I finished DA:O in around 40 -50 hours, and DA 2 in 19 - 20 hours, so I guess you can get the feeling how short it is.

 

Also talking about romance. Don't expect anything like BioWare's. Pretty much you have to do all their personal quest throughout the game, then have an intimate scene near the end. And that's it. No, they don't even talk about it, or express any intimate feeling toward you. Imo, better than Witcher's series of "flings" but far from BioWare's deep, thoughtful relationship.

 

Overall though, I guess you can enjoy it if you don't take this game too seriously. Honestly, I think the reason I gave it a shot was that I'm desperately looking for a new fantasy rpg (ppl keep recommending DS 2 but I drop it after maybe 4 hours. Dying over and over and over again is just not fun to me.). Anyhow, I wouldn't recommend this to anyone at full price, when it's on sale maybe. 

 

I think Spiders has a lot of potential as developers, but seems like they are just struggling to find their "gig". Maybe they should focus on Mars War logs, and make a really polished franchise out of that title.

 

Oh well, now I find sth to distract myself till DA:I come out, SWTOR!!! Slashing away time with lightsabers work surprisingly well.



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Ditto, it was the same for me. I'd rather a game with no romances at all than one with forced straight ones.

Didn't you like the first two ME games or the city elf origin?

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is..is bound by flame a good game? anyone?
:0 i really need my fix on fantasy games

 

Unfortunately, no.

 

I played as a female character, and Vulcan is extremely unlikable.

I put it in my xbox twice, played the first 2 chapters and I couldn't bring myself to play anymore. I traded it into CeX for £12 the following week.

 

I wouldn't recommend it. I was really disappointed too, because I wanted something to bridge a bit of the gap until Dragon Age Inquisition :(


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