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Maiden Crowe

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Is it a term made up by the fanbase or is it actually a term that actually exists in the Dragon Age universe that the fanbase misuses and if so what does it mean?

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It's the old culture of the horned gigants, before the Qun

Kinda like pre-islamic Arabia

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I'm no master of lore, but I'm pretty sure it's the actual name of the Qunari race. The truth is that Qunari is the term used for any individual that follows the Qun, being Kossith, elf or human. But the name of the the founders of the Qun, these big grey horned guys, is Kossith.

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What annoying people like to call qunari because they think it somehow makes them look more knowledgeable.

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Jaison1986 wrote...

I'm no master of lore, but I'm pretty sure it's the actual name of the Qunari race. The truth is that Qunari is the term used for any individual that follows the Qun, being Kossith, elf or human. But the name of the the founders of the Qun, these big grey horned guys, is Kossith.


Nah, Allan called it their pre-religion culture in the closed thread.

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Vapaä wrote...

It's the old culture of the horned gigants, before the Qun

Kinda like pre-islamic Arabia


I see and people have mistaken this term for the actual name of the race of horned grey skinned giants?

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Maiden Crowe wrote...

Vapaä wrote...

It's the old culture of the horned gigants, before the Qun

Kinda like pre-islamic Arabia


I see and people have mistaken this term for the actual name of the race of horned grey skinned giants?


That's right. It seems to get on the devs nerves too.

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It is a term that appears only in the codex. Is how the culture of the oxmen were called before the Qun existed. In the present only the Qunari scholars know the word and no one uses it.

I use it sometimes to refer to the race instead of the religious group, to avoid misunderstandings like when the devs said the Qunari will be playable and lated they had to specify they were refering ti the race and not the followers of the Qun.

Edit: the only thing that is known to have annoyed one of the devs was when some people were criticizing others for using the term Qunari refering to the race (which is not wrong). Pretty much like the ones criticizing those who use kossith now.

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Yeah, it's highly likely that the term wasn't exclusively referring to the grey giants either. Think of it like the Protheans. An assortment of different races under one system of being.

Well, that sounds like the Qun too. Hah.

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After reading what each person said i still have no idea what a Kossith is.

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so wth is the RACE's name??!!

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Tarek wrote...

so wth is the RACE's name??!!


Qunari

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Maiden Crowe wrote...

Tarek wrote...

so wth is the RACE's name??!!


Qunari


Nope. As far as we know they don't have one. Other than the fan given name "Oxmen".

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Tarek wrote...

so wth is the RACE's name??!!


The biological one ? only god (ie, the writers) knows

Qunari means "people of the qun", Qunaris doesn't think based on the race but on the religious beliefs

Modifié par Vapaä, 04 septembre 2013 - 01:35 .


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fchopin wrote...

After reading what each person said i still have no idea what a Kossith is.

It's essentially what Qunari is. The name of the culture + followers of that culture without any respect to race.

It was succeeded by the Qun. 

Modifié par AstusOz, 04 septembre 2013 - 01:37 .


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This might be useful:

Mary Kirby wrote...
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"Kossith" is an antiquated term, not a technical one. It was used to describe the culture that predated the Qun. It may not have even been the name of a race at all. It's the equivalent of calling white people, "Occidental." A few members of the Qunari priesthood are going to recognize the word, but no one else in Thedas would know what the heck this term means.

Modern Qunari do not have a term for their race for the same reason that nobody in Thedas has a name for their planet. As far as they are concerned, the world consists of people and things-that-aren't-people. All other distinctions are unimportant.

Other Thedosians do not draw distinctions between Those Tall Guys Who Sometimes Have Horns Who Follow the Qun and The Other Tall Guys who Sometimes Have Horns Who Don't. They are all, "Qunari" to the humans, elves, and dwarves.


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Simple:
Think of Qunari as Jewish, and you'll have your answer.

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AstusOz wrote...

fchopin wrote...

After reading what each person said i still have no idea what a Kossith is.

It's essentially what Qunari is. The name of the culture + followers of that culture without any respect to race.

It was succeeded by the Qun. 



So what is different between a Kossith and the Qun?

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fchopin wrote...

AstusOz wrote...

fchopin wrote...

After reading what each person said i still have no idea what a Kossith is.

It's essentially what Qunari is. The name of the culture + followers of that culture without any respect to race.

It was succeeded by the Qun. 



So what is different between a Kossith and the Qun?


Technically, nothing. But when fans use the term kossith they ussually refer to the race in opposition to the religion/culture. It's either that or Oxmen.

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fchopin wrote...

AstusOz wrote...

fchopin wrote...

After reading what each person said i still have no idea what a Kossith is.

It's essentially what Qunari is. The name of the culture + followers of that culture without any respect to race.

It was succeeded by the Qun. 



So what is different between a Kossith and the Qun?

The culture itself is fundamentally different. We know a bit about how the Qun functions however we don't really know anything concerning the Kossith culture. We only know that it came before. 

Fans mistakenly believed that Kossith explicitly referred to the race of the big grey giants when it didn't. A Kossith was just a member of the dominating culture that was around prior to the Qun. 

Modifié par AstusOz, 04 septembre 2013 - 01:55 .


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fchopin wrote...

AstusOz wrote...

fchopin wrote...

After reading what each person said i still have no idea what a Kossith is.

It's essentially what Qunari is. The name of the culture + followers of that culture without any respect to race.

It was succeeded by the Qun. 



So what is different between a Kossith and the Qun?


Pretty much nothing. Kossith is just an outdated term that referred to both race and religion. Qunari is the new age term that refers to race and religion, which is known as the Qun.

Modifié par Ultimashade, 04 septembre 2013 - 01:54 .


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What annoying people like to call qunari because they think it somehow makes them look more knowledgeable.


No, it's what people use to call the horned species also known as Qunari specifically to refer to the species and not their philosophical alignment and to avoid misunderstandings because humans, elves, dwarfs, whatever can be Qunari too.


It's simply shorter that saying "those horned Qunari that may or may not be followers of the Qun".


If you think that's annoying, that's your problem.

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Maiden Crowe wrote...

Is it a term made up by the fanbase or is it actually a term that actually exists in the Dragon Age universe that the fanbase misuses and if so what does it mean?


http://dragonage.wik...om/wiki/Kossith

At large when you read "Kossith" it's to indicate the race of horned giant.
Thecnicaly a Qunari it can be a human,elf or dwarf following the Qun so saying "Qunari will be a playable race" it could turn out to be one of the greatest trolling in the internet history :happy:

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Thecnicaly a Qunari it can be a human,elf or dwarf following the Qun so saying "Qunari will be a playable race" it could turn out to be one of the greatest trolling in the internet history :happy:


No. They have specifically said they meant the race. They have also specifically shown pictures of a Qunari/Kossith/Oxman/whatever as the Inquisitor.

Modifié par Neofelis Nebulosa, 04 septembre 2013 - 01:58 .


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You know what this remind me of, the protheans. All the subjugated races assimilated into Prothean culture, came to think of themselves as Prothean. This is what have become of the Kossith who began the Qun