Wissenschaft wrote...
Kossith isn't the name of the race of grey horned giants anymore than Qunari. Both Kossith and Qunari refer to a culture and the grey horned giants simply use their culture's name as their own identiny. This is similar to how Jewish is technically a religion but is use to name a group of people.
A few people on the bioware forums have insisted on using Kossith to distinguish grey horned giants from followers of the Qun even though Kossith is not the name of the race. The race of gaints simply don't use a sepereate name for their race vs their culture/religion. Its the same as someone of Jewish decent being refered to as a Jew even if they practice Judaism. This apparently annoys some people who continue to misuse Kossith even though the writers themselves pointed out that its the wrong use of the word and that its never going to be used in game.
The Jewish-Hebrew analogy is a good one, but not perfect. In part because no one really knows if "Kossith" ever meant the race of the Qunari. Scholars know it was a term and believe that it meant a race of horned giants, but it may never have meant the horned giants we now see. It is possible that there was or even is another race of horned giants, perhaps even bigger than the Qunari that were called Kossith. Perhaps Kossith is even the term used by the Qunari to refer to the Ogre, since they had encountered darkspawn before but may not have called them that, and thus had to come up with a new name for all these, "horned giants," they had to fight, but it was so long ago that by the time they heard about the darkspawn again they had forgotten the term.
The truth is that the only people who were confused if "Playable Qunari" meant playable horned person, or just being able to be a human/elf/dwarf who followed the Qun, were the people on here who call Qunari Kossith. When every person involved in the making of the game and the people who made up the word say, "Hey guys, you're using it wrong." I for one say, "Oh, okay," and then stop using the word wrong.
The only reason people get confused about Qunari when the term is used is because some people started calling them Kossith to sound smarter than the "rest of us," who called the Qunari. They added a second word to mean something that already a word that meant that. I'm a teacher (well sub now, after having to move, I'm still looking for a full time teaching job again), but if I went into class and told the students, "We are going to excogigate for the lab we're doing tomorrow and I don't want anyone to start t(w)attling cause we don't want to end up in a hugger-mugger," it would be confusing.
Can anyone tell me what I said? I used real words, words that used to be common. So what did I say? Did it help you understand that I used old words to "clarify," my statement? What's worse with the Kossith debate, is it isn't even being used right. It's as if I decided that I'm calling pens Quills from now on and went to class and told the students to get out there quills. They'd have no point of reference because I'm using a word that doesn't mean the same thing as a pen, a quill is different, just like a bus and a car are different, and a lake and a pool are different. If I tell someone I have a lake in my back yard and try to sell my house as lakefront property and then they come over and I have a swimming pool in my back yard, they would call me a liar and a cheat, even though they are both (lake and pool), fundamentally, just a body of water right?
And for the record what I said up above was, "We are going to excogigate (plan) for the lab we're doing tomorrow and I don't want anyone to start t(w)attling (gossiping or talking excessively) cause we don't want to end up in a hugger-mugger (a confusing mess)."
TL;DR - You're doing it wrong. The only time it gets confusing is when y'all drop in and say, "Wait, do you mean Qunari, or Kossith?" Go to youtube and watch Ashe's (Lady Insanity) video about the Qunari vs. Kossith, it's good and she has all the quotes, from the people who make the bloody game, saying that Kossith is not the right term and it only adds to the confusion.
edit: That's funny, it ***ed out t(w)attling, it just means to gossip, I guess the first few letters also mean a word we now use as a "bad," word, but that's funny. And kind of ture to the discussion at hand. The way words don't always mean what we think, and the way words can change in meaning over time... that's why it is important to understand the meaning of a word and use it the right way.
Modifié par TCBC_Freak, 04 septembre 2013 - 06:09 .
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