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[screwoffreg]

My male Shepherd puts his locs on like a G before he rides out into Space. No joking, he's smoking.

[sinosleep]

Shiun Touya wrote...

The problem is that it isn't true in practice. I've seen plenty people refer it as a 'race' or culture. Heck, even in some surveys and profiles you get those bull**** terms. After all, I could use 'north american' if I wanted to and claim the same reasoning you are using.

It encourages ignorance and stereotypes. Same with calling anyone of asian descent simply asian instead of their proper heritage when the differences are vast.

It's on job applications because you have to be practical. I mean if you had to put every last nationality on there there'd be 8 pages on race and 1 for the actual application.

[TheDove]

Mr.Skar wrote...

Half Mexican here, though I don't know if a mixed kid like myself counts for this here thread. Is it uncool to respond to the thread topic what with the rather heated discussion going on in here?

Climb on in! The waters warm!

[anon_04111]

These threads really are the best threads



And I'd be careful everyone, vhatever's friend might cut your throat through the internet haha

[LucidStrike]

DeathCultArm wrote...

Can't really spell crap...without rap.

Real original, yet also irrelevant. I'd call it puerile, only I don't won't to insult children.

[Monster A-Go Go]

Mr.Skar wrote...

Half Mexican here, though I don't know if a mixed kid like myself counts for this here thread. Is it uncool to respond to the thread topic what with the rather heated discussion going on in here?

It's perfectly cool.  It's nice to see some semblance of the original intent instead of following vhatever's personal crusade for the reformation of demographic semantics.

[vhatever]

anon_04111 wrote...

These threads really are the best threads

And I'd be careful everyone, vhatever's friend might cut your throat through the internet haha

you never know. He's pretty crazy like that. When he was like 10 years old someone tried stealing his bike when he was in the store and when he caught him he started beating the kids head in with his own bicycle frame.

Was like a 700 dollar bianci bike, too.

[DeathCultArm]

LucidStrike wrote...

DeathCultArm wrote...

Can't really spell crap...without rap.

Real original, yet also irrelevant. I'd call it puerile, only I don't won't to insult children.

Finally,...it's not offically a thread until you insult me for an unjustifiable reason...

[anon_04111]

vhatever wrote...
you never know. He's pretty crazy like that. When he was like 10 years old someone tried stealing his bike when he was in the store and when he caught him he started beating the kids head in with his own bicycle frame.

Was like a 700 dollar bianci bike, too.

You two should adopt a kid and raise him to be a master-debating lunatic
I'd would totally watch a show about that.

[LucidStrike]

DeathCultArm wrote...

LucidStrike wrote...

DeathCultArm wrote...

Can't really spell crap...without rap.

Real original, yet also irrelevant. I'd call it puerile, only I don't won't to insult children.

Finally,...it's not offically a thread until you insult me for an unjustifiable reason...

You say unjustifiable a lot, rather than actually refute. Anyway, calling an action puerile isn't the same as calling its agent puerile. The agent is merely capable of acting in a puerile manner.

[DeathCultArm]

I've never said unjustifiable on a ME before...ever. And I don't want a lesson on how to insult b/c you want to defend a crappy music genre.



And ow can I retort?..There was nothing to say....my point stands rap is crap. That's my opinion...

[Marlina]

So anyway, I'm glad I live in a place where race isn't such a touchy subject. >_> I don't mind people calling me "white" or "scandinavian" or "norwegian" or "northern-european" or anything like that.

By the way, I visited this cozy pizzeria downtown owned by some palestinians and an iraqi guy. Very nice guys, and they didn't get offended when I asked them where they originated from either. Actually, I thought they were italian at first! Yeah, I'm so bad at telling races apart. The only reason I asked was because I noticed some sort of accent.

There was this one time though, I just asked a guy if he had filled gas (I was working at a gas station at the time, and plenty of people just tend to forget that they filled gas two minutes ago and so forget to pay. It's not on purpose or anything, they just forget.) and he got mad at me. See, he was the only person there and the display showed that someone hadn't paid for their gas, so I just asked in a friendly manner if he had filled, but got very upset and started yelling at me, asking me if I asked because of the fact that he wasn't white. My first thought was "ermm.... you're not?!"

Seriously, I thought this guy was white, I didn't even notice. Turns out he was sort of "latino" (sorry if you feel that that term is very offensive, it's just that he looked a tiny bit "spanish" when I took a closer look), and so he thought that I asked him because I thought that all people of his ethnicity were poor thieves that couldn't afford to pay for their gas or something.

What happened next was funny, he pulled out this ID card in my face and told me how much he earned as some sort of high-ranking doctor of some hospital, and how I was a racist, all the while I was trying to explain why I asked and apologizing to him. He then walked over to his girlfriend and started whispering stuff to her while pointing at me. I couldn't help but chuckle, it was just a way too extreme reaction. Geez..

[Schneidend]

DeathCultArm wrote...

Finally. It's not a thread until Lamb insults somebody's race, culture, sexual preference, taste in music, or anything else, and then acts like a hapless victim when people retaliate in kind.

[anon_04111]

DeathCultArm wrote...
rap is crap. That's my opinion...

I'd agree with this, Hip-Hop much better.
as an example

\\/\\/\\/:
I got about half-way through that, couldn't get into it.

Modifié par anon_04111, 19 janvier 2010 - 08:36 .

[LucidStrike]

Marlina wrote...

So anyway, I'm glad I live in a place where race isn't such a touchy subject. >_> I don't mind people calling me "white" or "scandinavian" or "norwegian" or "northern-european" or anything like that.

What happened next was funny, he pulled out this ID card in my face and told me how much he earned as some sort of high-ranking doctor of some hospital, and how I was a racist, all the while I was trying to explain why I asked and apologizing to him. He then walked over to his girlfriend and started whispering stuff to her while pointing at me. I couldn't help but chuckle, it was just a way too extreme reaction. Geez..

Friend, try not to brush it off like that. Perspective is a very important factor in all this.

It's not unusual for white people to be less concerned about how they're identified concerning race and ethnicity. Invisible knapsack phenomenon. Here's a somewhat related video:

Of course, there's also culture, and your's is obviously different. That said, I've heard vastly different accounts of race politics in Northern Europe. Some, for instance, say it isn't a huge deal for the simple fact that it isn't really that "diverse".

Now, also on the matter of perspective, I wouldn't assume you were being racist. The fact that you were confused illustrates just how irrational the concept of race is to begin with. That said, i can't speak for that individual. Different perspectives. Different perceptions. Just keep that in mind. Also, never brush things things off. Can't stress that enough. Learn. Always learn.

anon_04111 wrote...

DeathCultArm wrote...
rap is crap. That's my opinion...

I'd agree with this, Hip-Hop much better.
as an example

Crap rap:

Modifié par LucidStrike, 19 janvier 2010 - 08:32 .

[Mr. Gerbz]

LucidStrike wrote...

Mr. Gerbz wrote...

Crawling_Chaos wrote...

Mr. Gerbz wrote...

...Sound off? Is that one of those hiphop things like "holla" (or whatever)?

Don't overthink it.

Hiphop / rap / RnB and their terms are so retarded it's pretty damn hard not to overthink it. 

One of them again. <_<

You have a Last.FM, almighty music overlord?

'One of them'? You mean, one of those people with a good music taste? Then yes. I like a lot of music styles (from Irish folk to Sex Pistols to Muse to Rammstein to Vive la Fête... Etc), usually what one would call alternative. All the **** mtv shows (rap, hiphop, pop, RnB) is pure bollocks. And you have to admit it's usually the less intelligent people listening to that kind of music.
I also loathe the fact those styles are based so much on what you wear and how you act. Pathetic untalented rappers calling themselves 'gangstas'. Pfft. I'd like to see them in a brawl with the Ramones and the Sex Pistols. Luckily for them those people are old/dead now.

Also, officially rap isn't music. It's just a constantly repeating tune, with the text almost being spoken instead of sung. Not to mention its always about either love, 'gangstas', 'the hood', or how awesome they and their friends are.

Modifié par Mr. Gerbz, 19 janvier 2010 - 08:36 .

[LatinaLuvsMassEffect]

Let's see if We can get George Lopez to interview Bioware!
HERE

I just signed up and posted a comment
(yes that is me don't laugh at my pic)

[DeathCultArm]

And the whole rappers trying to steal the rock/metal/punk culture is annoying.

Yeah a great way to expand you audicene, pretend to support a culure you know nothing about.

[Mr. Gerbz]

LatinaLuvsMassEffect wrote...

Let's see if We can get George Lopez to interview Bioware!
HERE

I just signed up and posted a comment
(yes that is me don't laugh at my pic)

Your explanation of the game is slightly... Different.

[Mr. Gerbz]

DeathCultArm wrote...

And the whole rappers trying to steal the rock/metal/punk culture is annoying.
Yeah a great way to expand you audicene, pretend to support a culure you know nothing about.

You know what annoys me the most? All those pop singers calling themselves rock stars. They must have been dropped pretty damn hard on their head as babies.

[LucidStrike]

Mr. Gerbz wrote...

'One of them'? You mean, one of those people with a good music taste? Then yes. I like a lot of music styles (from Irish folk to Sex Pistols to Muse to Rammstein to Vive la Fête... Etc), usually what one would call alternative. All the **** mtv shows (rap, hiphop, pop, RnB) is pure bollocks. And you have to admit it's usually the less intelligent people listening to that kind of music.
I also loathe the fact those styles are based so much on what you wear and how you act. Pathetic untalented rappers calling themselves 'gangstas'. Pfft. I'd like to see them in a brawl with the Ramones and the Sex Pistols. Luckily for them those people are old/dead now.

First off, I meant 'one of those cultural overlords who somehow OBJECTIVELY knows what music is good and what isn't'. You're magical fo-lks(censored? Really, BioWare?). Some call you pretentious. Others call you obnoxious. Me...Me I just call you fascinating.

Anyway, judging a genre based on its commercial industry, especially at the MTV level, is pretty irrational. Most of the music I enjoy isn't ever likely to appear on any channel, save maybe Current TV.

I grew up on Hip Hop, and, as you can see from my Last.FM profile, I also  know a lot of Punk, classical, Folk, Metal, Alternative, Pop, Electronica, etc. I also play guitar, but I don't see how you can objectively conclude that composing lyrics doesn't ever require any talent.

It saddens me to see a 'punk' speak as you have. You remind me of the anti-punks atmosphere of the 70's (and today). Also, pretty much every punk I know (I know A LOT), listen to Rap and Hip Hop. Expand your horizons.

Listen to this and explain to me how ridiculous the 'gangsta' facade is:

Modifié par LucidStrike, 19 janvier 2010 - 08:51 .

[DeathCultArm]

Mr. Gerbz wrote...

DeathCultArm wrote...

And the whole rappers trying to steal the rock/metal/punk culture is annoying.
Yeah a great way to expand you audicene, pretend to support a culure you know nothing about.

You know what annoys me the most? All those pop singers calling themselves rock stars. They must have been dropped pretty damn hard on their head as babies.

Everytime I watch ESPN, and that play a RIHANNA song called "Rockstar 101" ft. SLASH...a little part of me dies inside.

[Shiun Touya]

LucidStrike wrote...

Mr. Gerbz wrote...

'One of them'? You mean, one of those people with a good music taste? Then yes. I like a lot of music styles (from Irish folk to Sex Pistols to Muse to Rammstein to Vive la Fête... Etc), usually what one would call alternative. All the **** mtv shows (rap, hiphop, pop, RnB) is pure bollocks. And you have to admit it's usually the less intelligent people listening to that kind of music.
I also loathe the fact those styles are based so much on what you wear and how you act. Pathetic untalented rappers calling themselves 'gangstas'. Pfft. I'd like to see them in a brawl with the Ramones and the Sex Pistols. Luckily for them those people are old/dead now.

First off, I meant 'one of those cultural overlords who somehow OBJECTIVELY knows what music is good and what isn't'. You're magical ****s. Some call you pretentious. Others call you obnoxious. Me...Me I just call you fascinating.

Anyway, judging a genre based on its commercial industry, especially at the MTV level, is pretty irrational. Most of the music I enjoy isn't ever likely to appear on any channel, save maybe Current TV.

I grew up on Hip Hop, and, as you can see from my Last.FM profile, I also  know a lot of Punk, classical, Folk, Metal, Alternative, Pop, Electrinica, etc. I also play guitar, but I don't see how you can objectively conclude that composing lyrics doesn't ever require any talent.

It saddens me to see a 'punk' speak as you have. You remind me of the anti-punks atmosphere of the 70's (and today). Also, pretty much every punk I know ( know A LOT), listen to Rap and Hip Hop. Expand your horizons.

Listen to this and explain to me how ridiculous the 'gangsta' facade is:

I can't stand people who claim to somehow have a superior standing when it comes to tastes and opinions. Is it really hard to like something just because you like it? Seriously, I don't understand why they go out of their way to feel better about their own tastes by claiming how superior theirs are and how stupid is everyone else for liking something they don't.

Personally, I don't like rap, specially not the ones with lyrics about sex and violence. Wasn't hip hop all about cultural messages? I like that part of it and it saddens me that after its commercialization it has lost it's soul completely.

Modifié par Shiun Touya, 19 janvier 2010 - 08:51 .

[Mr. Gerbz]

LucidStrike wrote...

Mr. Gerbz wrote...

'One of them'? You mean, one of those people with a good music taste? Then yes. I like a lot of music styles (from Irish folk to Sex Pistols to Muse to Rammstein to Vive la Fête... Etc), usually what one would call alternative. All the **** mtv shows (rap, hiphop, pop, RnB) is pure bollocks. And you have to admit it's usually the less intelligent people listening to that kind of music.
I also loathe the fact those styles are based so much on what you wear and how you act. Pathetic untalented rappers calling themselves 'gangstas'. Pfft. I'd like to see them in a brawl with the Ramones and the Sex Pistols. Luckily for them those people are old/dead now.

First off, I meant 'one of those cultural overlords who somehow OBJECTIVELY knows what music is good and what isn't'. You're magical ****s. Some call you pretentious. Others call you obnoxious. Me...Me I just call you fascinating.

Anyway, judging a genre based on its commercial industry, especially at the MTV level, is pretty irrational. Most of the music I enjoy isn't ever likely to appear on any channel, save maybe Current TV.

I grew up on Hip Hop, and, as you can see from my Last.FM profile, I also  know a lot of Punk, classical, Folk, Metal, Alternative, Pop, Electrinica, etc. I also play guitar.

It saddens me to see a 'punk' speak as you have. You remind me of the anti-punks atmosphere of the 70's (and today). Also, pretty much every punk I know ( know A LOT), listen to Rap and Hip Hop. Expand your horizons.

Listen to this and explain to me how ridiculous the 'gangsta' facade is:

I am not a punk. I have much too easy a life to call myself that. And do you even know what punks are? Not those Green Day pop idiots. The Ramones and Sex Pistols for example, were punk. Way to shoot yourself in the foot.

And while I loathe their communities, I do not call rap/hiphop/RnB/pop bad because of that, I call it bad because it actually seriously is bad. People making that kind of music become famous due to looks, not their music. people buying their music are usually the blond, mindless, sheep-like cheerleader types.

Here's to hoping that in 10 years most people will like Rock'n'Roll again, radio might actually be decent to listen to again then. Not to mention the average intelligence level will probably go up.