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PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE Bioware let us follow the Qun


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omnitremere

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Okay so we can choose Qunari as a race in DAI.  Awesome.  Fantastic.  You have my preorder.  Which you already had before but whatever.  Anyway, please do this right.  If I can choose a Qunari but my dialogue is the same as if I was a human or elf this will be a travesty.  It will only feel right if I'm also given the ability to follow the Qun if I choose to do so.  

Why won't I give money or help to the family that desperately needs it? It's not my role.  Why was I in Orlais to begin with? The Arishok asked a question.  Why do I immediately hunt down and kill every mage I see? Because the Qun demands it.  I understand that it's probably too much to ask for the world to react to this choice and the hardline attitude.  But just from a roleplaying standpoint if Qunari is an option than making the Qun an integral part of our life should come along with that.  We should also have the ability to delve deeper into the religion and find out more about what it entails. Otherwise it seems like this addition would just be cosmetic.  A very cool cosmetic addition to be sure but not all it could be.  Just my two cents.  Really looking forward to the game regardless guys.  Keep up the good work.

P.S. Apologies if 40 threads about this exact topic have already been made.  I did a quick search and didn't see any.

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So long as you don't mind the Talmassrans deciding that your role is washing dishes.

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No.

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Why would the Inquisition ever, ever hire someone who followed the Qun? Also gameplay/roleplay would probably be boring as hell. 

Wulfram wrote...

So long as you don't mind the Talmassrans deciding that your role is washing dishes.


Modifié par ImperatorMortis, 04 septembre 2013 - 07:10 .


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The Inquisition would never allow it.
And anyway, the Qun would never allow it. You would be on the Qun's hit list and hunted down by their sleeper agents.

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The Qunari waste nothing so why not an eager True grey.

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The whole point of the DA: I is that you are the leader of the Inquisition. You follow no one and answer only to yourself. Thats a far cry from being a follower of the Qun. Even the Qun leaders share power and most govern collectively. 

So no, your not going to be a follower of the Qun. It wouldn't make any sense.

Modifié par Wissenschaft, 04 septembre 2013 - 07:12 .


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More like Inqunsition, amirite?

I'll show myself out.

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ImperatorMortis wrote...

Why would the Inquisition ever, ever hire someone who followed the Qun? Also gameplay/roleplay would probably be boring as hell. 


Why would the Warden recruit someone who followed the Qun?  I'm not saying I want to play as a bonafide Qun practicing Qunari, but "peril to the whole world" tends to trump petty differences in philosophy.  A big, meaty, killing machine is still a big, meaty, killing machine, Qun or not. 

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Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

ImperatorMortis wrote...

Why would the Inquisition ever, ever hire someone who followed the Qun? Also gameplay/roleplay would probably be boring as hell. 


Why would the Warden recruit someone who followed the Qun?  I'm not saying I want to play as a bonafide Qun practicing Qunari, but "peril to the whole world" tends to trump petty differences in philosophy.  A big, meaty, killing machine is still a big, meaty, killing machine, Qun or not. 

 

Except the Inquisiton is not hiring you. You are playing the person who forms, commands, and controls the Inquisition.

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Well we don't know how this character will become the Inquisitor and where he/she comes from but I am sure you can at least follow the ideals of the Qun.

Being the Inquisitor at all would in many cases be breaking the laws of the Qun by obtaining power you may not deserve but maybe if you were a hornless Qunari or one sent by the Arishok.

I suppose a Ben-Hassrath maybe or a Sten

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You're already going against the Qun if you opt to play a female, so I'm going to guess no.

Also, the player character is the one forming the Inquisition, so the Inquisition hiring/not hiring a follower of the Qun is a non-issue.

Modifié par DoomHK, 04 septembre 2013 - 07:15 .


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DoomHK wrote...

You're already going against the Qun if you opt to play a female, so I'm going to guess no.


Or a mage.

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That would negate your ability to be a mage, just so you know.

The qunari would never let a mage be free of his/her handlers unless they became corrupted. Also, the qunari do not convert mages - they are simply killed.

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Yes, we should be able to follow the Qun, but only if you pick "Qun mode", where the game chooses all your dialogue choices for you, forces you to fight all mages, removes all sidequests and doesn't allow you to recruit female party members or have an LI.

To be fair, I would like to give following the Qun a shot, but it'll be on a fourth or fifth playthrough and it is expecting far too much for it to be fully supported.

Modifié par JWvonGoethe, 04 septembre 2013 - 07:17 .


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ImperatorMortis

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sandalisthemaker wrote...

DoomHK wrote...

You're already going against the Qun if you opt to play a female, so I'm going to guess no.


Or a mage.


These as well. 

Your only real options are Male Qunari Warrior/Rogue, and you would probably have to exclude party members. 

Honestly it would probably be the most boring, and soulless roleplaying experience imaginable. 

JWvonGoethe wrote...

Yes, we should be able to follow the Qun, but only if you pick "Qun mode", where the game chooses all your dialogue choices for you, forces you to fight all mages, removes all sidequests and doesn't allow you to recruit female party members or have an LI.


Modifié par ImperatorMortis, 04 septembre 2013 - 07:18 .


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It's already confirmed that we'll not be a member of the Qun. Sorry, OP.

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Wissenschaft wrote...

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

ImperatorMortis wrote...

Why would the Inquisition ever, ever hire someone who followed the Qun? Also gameplay/roleplay would probably be boring as hell. 


Why would the Warden recruit someone who followed the Qun?  I'm not saying I want to play as a bonafide Qun practicing Qunari, but "peril to the whole world" tends to trump petty differences in philosophy.  A big, meaty, killing machine is still a big, meaty, killing machine, Qun or not. 

 

Except the Inquisiton is not hiring you. You are playing the person who forms, commands, and controls the Inquisition.


I get the feeling the Inquisistion is rather Warden like in this regard, more concerned about the World blowing up than about dumb racial preconceptions.  And I see nothing in the Qun that forbids active cooperation with such an organization.  It certainly didn't end up hurting Sten.  Why can't the leading body of the Qunari specifically pick someone and say "you, go and organize resistance to this, that is your role."

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I'm pretty sure the Qun demands a lot of stuff that is incompatible with your job as inquistor.
Like, didn't Sten say something about women are not allowed to be warriors or something?

Femquisitor: "You know guys, that inquisition thing is fun and all, but I have to return to Par Vollen now and bear children. The Qun demands it. Bye."

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There are women in the Qun who fight as Tallis proves.

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JWvonGoethe wrote...

Yes, we should be able to follow the Qun, but only if you pick "Qun mode", where the game chooses all your dialogue choices for you, forces you to fight all mages, removes all sidequests and doesn't allow you to recruit female party members or have an LI.

To be fair, I would like to give following the Qun a shot, but it'll be on a fourth or fifth playthrough and it is expecting far too much for it to be fully supported.

 

LOL, someone needs to make that into a mod of the game. All rejection dialogue would be reduced to a simple, NO. I want to be able to rant about bring order and purpose to the chaos of thedas like the Arishok. :D

Modifié par Wissenschaft, 04 septembre 2013 - 07:20 .


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This is much more of a game implementation problem than a lore problem.

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Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

There are women in the Qun who fight as Tallis proves.


Tallis is also a member of the Ben-Hassrath, the qunari's secret police. They are not part of the army.

Modifié par thats1evildude, 04 septembre 2013 - 07:25 .


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I'm completely confused by the reasoning being presented.

1. Why wouldn't the Inquisitor want someone who follows the Qun? Is Sten a lesser party member because he follows the Qun? No. If anything it makes him more brutal and a sharper sword. The reasoning that being a follower of the Qun makes you a weaker or less valuable party member doesn't make sense.

2. Followers of the Qun would never allow one of their own to become the Inquisitor? Based on what? Sten spent months following the Warden around helping him against the Archdemon. He never reported back during his time with the Warden. The Arishok gave him a one sentence question: What is a blight? Essentially Sten took that, ran with it, and seemed pretty confident he would be accepted back into the brotherhood afterwards. Why would this be any different?

3. The Inquisition would never allow it? YOU lead the Inquisition. It allows whatever you allow. Bioware has made it very clear you won't be forced to follow the Chantry or frankly any other group. So what prevents you from turning against them?

4. Gameplay would be boring? You mean boring like humans, elves, dwarves and Qunari all having the same damn dialogue? I agree if there isn't any signficant deviation between the four that is kind of boring.

So far I haven't heard one relevant reason why this couldn't work. I thank all of you for your responses though.

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Sten follows you on the assumption he will die in your service and states he would be killed on sight if he returned to Par Vollen without his sword.

Modifié par thats1evildude, 04 septembre 2013 - 07:30 .