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[LinksOcarina]

[quote]In Exile wrote...

Unless Bioware breaks their own lore in DAI, there's no way the darkspawn could be the better alternative to the breached Veil, arguably even if the breached Veil would just straight up end the universe. [/quote]

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The Architect already breaks darkspawn lore.

And lore is always meant to be broken. Thats what happens with history. I can see him leading the charge with the inquisitor in a specail situaton. THAT would be interesting. 

Modifié par LinksOcarina, 05 septembre 2013 - 09:05 .

[In Exile]

LinksOcarina wrote...
The Architect already breaks darkspawn lore.

Not really. The Architect could be like Corypheus. A Magister. Who forgot who he was like Shale. 

[leaguer of one]

In Exile wrote...

LinksOcarina wrote...
The Architect already breaks darkspawn lore.

Not really. The Architect could be like Corypheus. A Magister. Who forgot who he was like Shale. 

Or just a self aware darkspawn. Added, not much is know about darkspawn so it's not a case of breaking any lore.

[The Elder King]

I think it's more likely that the Architect was another original magister, considering Corypheus. While their aspect is different, their faces are distorted in a (imo) similar way.

[leaguer of one]

hhh89 wrote...

I think it's more likely that the Architect was another original magister, considering Corypheus. While their aspect is different, their faces are distorted in a (imo) similar way.

There is nothing indicating that one way or another. 

[The Elder King]

leaguer of one wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

I think it's more likely that the Architect was another original magister, considering Corypheus. While their aspect is different, their faces are distorted in a (imo) similar way.

There is nothing indicating that one way or another. 

That's why I said 'I think', and 'imo' (in my opinion).Unless you're assuming that I can't believe that they are magisters because their faces are distorted. I didn't say that this theory should be considered more likely by anyone.
Plus, the Architect's magic seems stronger than normal emissary, and considering that so far the only know method of awaken a darkspawn is due GW blood, I find the theory of the Architect being another magister more likely than the being that he's an awakened darkspawn.

Modifié par hhh89, 05 septembre 2013 - 10:06 .

[LinksOcarina]

In Exile wrote...

LinksOcarina wrote...
The Architect already breaks darkspawn lore.

Not really. The Architect could be like Corypheus. A Magister. Who forgot who he was like Shale. 

I don't think the architect gives a damn about what he was at this point, but this is all speculation anyway. 

[Vortex13]

In Exile wrote...

No. That's not what I said. What I said was that you are whitewashing them by suggesting that despite all the evidence we've had in-game that every single darkspawn expect the Messenger rapes, kills and murders for fun that they would magically stop doing that as an entire group of people is somehow still lore consistet.

Sorry for just the snippit of your post here; too big of a wall of text. Plus I want to start over so we aren't devolving into an argument vs. spirited debate.

I think we are both mistaking each other's points here. I was wrong thinking, as you said, that you objected to the possibility of Darkspawn allies because the Taint had a 100% mortality rate. I apololigize for that assumption.

On the other hand I have never (or at least never intened) to say that ALL Darkspawn or ALL Awakened Darkspawn, would suddenly stop commiting horrible atrocities and be humane, life respecting good guys. Your right in saying that such a senario would be 'Pulling a Geth'.

No, my idea/request/position (whatever you want to call it) was for a very, very small amount of Awakened being possible allies. Ideally the Messenger; since he is the basis for the whole concept of non murdering, non raping Darkspawn; and at most 4 or 5 other 'good' Awakened, but even that would be pushing it.

You are right to say that the overwhelming majority of Darkspawn, and the Awakened Darkspawn are evil abominations, and I am right with you and others in exterminating them, but, as you have said, the Messenger is the exception. All I am saying is that I would like the possibility of recruiting these few Darkspawn as allies, not the entire horde. 

With such a small number of Darkspawn, all of the points we were debating earlier wouldn't really factor (as much) into the logisitcs of have Darkspawn allies, because; as you have pointed out; this wouldn't be a massing of the creatures on the surface.