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[Shared]

 Just a thaught i had conserning the bad guy in this game. A dude powerfull enough to open a tear into the fade, where do that come from have we met him before? And which person is that, and no matter what you decide do such a thing survive? Well anyone thats played legacy gets a ****ing ugly grin from either a female mage, or a male ghouls thing after youve "beaten" him. And this particualr bastard has been to the black city. Besides flemeth the only dude i know of that has this power, so my guess is gonna be the bad guy is: Corypheus.

[mikeymoonshine]

Hmm I doubt it. i think cory is probably the cause of whatever the grey wardens are up to but it seems a bit obvious and the main antagonist.

[Jamie9]

Tevinter mages/Dragon cult.

Whether Flemeth is the true orchestrator of events or not is anyone's guess.

[Rane7685]

I think its the old god baby. I actually think Morrigan (or her child) will be the antagonist in this game

[Jamie9]

Rane7685 wrote...
I think its the old god baby. I actually think Morrigan (or her child) will be the antagonist in this game

What about people who didn't do the ritual (also note that BioWare's "default" doesn't have the OGB)?

The argument that Morrigan found a way anyway doesn't really hold up as the Warden/Alistair/Loghain die.

[Shared]

Jamie9 wrote...

Rane7685 wrote...
I think its the old god baby. I actually think Morrigan (or her child) will be the antagonist in this game

What about people who didn't do the ritual (also note that BioWare's "default" doesn't have the OGB)?

The argument that Morrigan found a way anyway doesn't really hold up as the Warden/Alistair/Loghain die.

Why im betting on corypheus. All other bad guys except flemmeth is avoidable. God baby = optional, architech = killable etc. The only guys you know have breached the black city is the original magisters, architecht and corypheus, and from what i gathered corypheus was the most powerfull/leader of them.

[mikeymoonshine]

I'm thinking it's sandal.

[Jamie9]

Shared wrote...
Why im betting on corypheus. All other bad guys except flemmeth is avoidable. God baby = optional, architech = killable etc. The only guys you know have breached the black city is the original magisters, architecht and corypheus, and from what i gathered corypheus was the most powerfull/leader of them.

While I don't think Corypheus will be the main antagonist, I do hope he plays a big role in a Grey Warden sub-plot. His situation is very interesting, and I enjoyed Legacy.

Your reasoning is sound too. In addition to the factors you listed, Corypheus needs to be reintroduced anyhow as you're not playing as Hawke, so new players need not know any of Legacy's events.

[Shared]

mikeymoonshine wrote...

I'm thinking it's sandal.

Doubt it hes undoubtably really really powerfull ala flemmeth, but hes like the good version of flemmeth.

[Taleroth]

It would be a tragedy if the bad guy were some returning character from a DLC.

[Maria Caliban]

Taleroth wrote...

It would be a tragedy if the bad guy were some returning character from a DLC.

Why is that?

[Potato Cat]

Taleroth wrote...

It would be a tragedy if the bad guy were some returning character from a DLC.

It's not as though anyone missed anything. He's bad. He's an ancient Magister, one of THE Magisters. That's pretty much all we know so far really, not like that could be explained. Legacy was just his introduction and making it feel like Hawke maybe was responsible for something.

[Maiden Crowe]

Jamie9 wrote...

Rane7685 wrote...
I think its the old god baby. I actually think Morrigan (or her child) will be the antagonist in this game

What about people who didn't do the ritual (also note that BioWare's "default" doesn't have the OGB)?

The argument that Morrigan found a way anyway doesn't really hold up as the Warden/Alistair/Loghain die.

Time in the fade is not linear thus it is entirely possible that Morrigan who entered the Fade physically found an exit point at an earlier point in history during an earlier Blight and performed the ritual there, it doesn't matter if you do the ritual or not as Morrigan still has a child no matter what, so if the child isn't the Warden's, Alistair's or Loghain's then who's is it?

[Shared]

Taleroth wrote...

It would be a tragedy if the bad guy were some returning character from a DLC.

Not really, not if they introduce you to him properly. Its just like with Mass Effect 3. The arrival DLC is actually nessesary. Nothing makes sense about the beginning of ME3 withouth having played it. The Legacy DLC is also imo really important because it explains, and confirms where the darkspawn actually came from.

[Jamie9]

Maiden Crowe wrote...
Time in the fade is not linear thus it is entirely possible that Morrigan who entered the Fade physically found an exit point at an earlier point in history during an earlier Blight and performed the ritual there, it doesn't matter if you do the ritual or not as Morrigan still has a child no matter what, so if the child isn't the Warden's, Alistair's or Loghain's then who's is it?

That's not true. If you don't romance her or do the ritual, the epilogue mentions her being seen at court in Orlais, with no mention of being with child.

She never brings up any child in Witch Hunt either, but rather expresses regret that you refused her.

Modifié par Jamie9, 05 septembre 2013 - 03:28 .

[mikeymoonshine]

Shared wrote...

mikeymoonshine wrote...

I'm thinking it's sandal.

Doubt it hes undoubtably really really powerfull ala flemmeth, but hes like the good version of flemmeth.

Or maybe He is the bad version and Flemeth the good. 

People are too quick to assume the flemeth is bad. We know nothing of her motives or even what she truly is, maybe she's bad maybe she's good maybe she's neither and her motives will never become clear. 

[Shared]

discosuperfly wrote...

Maybe the Architect was also a Magister and he and Corypheus team up and look for their other Magister buddies. I don't think Cory is powerful enough on his own, but with his old team to back him up, maybe they could do it. *shrugs*

Yeh, but the architect can be killed. And cory was the leader of them as i understand it. I don't know it just fits, since he already ****ed everyone over once by diddling with fade stuff.

[Rane7685]

I still dont see why Morrigan cant be the baddie. Even if you didnt do the ritual she bailed to do her own thing (god knows what). Who knows maybe she found a way to rip the Fade. Plus I genuinely cant remember but I'm pretty sure I killed Corypheus

[Shared]

Jamie9 wrote...

Maiden Crowe wrote...
Time in the fade is not linear thus it is entirely possible that Morrigan who entered the Fade physically found an exit point at an earlier point in history during an earlier Blight and performed the ritual there, it doesn't matter if you do the ritual or not as Morrigan still has a child no matter what, so if the child isn't the Warden's, Alistair's or Loghain's then who's is it?

That's not true. If you don't romance her or do the ritual, the epilogue mentions her being seen at court in Orlais, with no mention of being with child.

She never brings up any child in Witch Hunt either, but rather expresses regret that you refused her.

And if its true morrigna gets a god child no matter what, thats just poor story telling, and your choices dont matter again, i doubt they will do that mistake again so soon.

[Maiden Crowe]

Jamie9 wrote...

Maiden Crowe wrote...
Time in the fade is not linear thus it is entirely possible that Morrigan who entered the Fade physically found an exit point at an earlier point in history during an earlier Blight and performed the ritual there, it doesn't matter if you do the ritual or not as Morrigan still has a child no matter what, so if the child isn't the Warden's, Alistair's or Loghain's then who's is it?

That's not true. If you don't romance her or do the ritual, the epilogue mentions her being seen at court in Orlais, with no mention of being with child.

She never brings up any child in Witch Hunt either, but rather expresses regret that you refused her.

She does in the comics which follows the "default" canon.

Modifié par Maiden Crowe, 05 septembre 2013 - 03:31 .

[mikeymoonshine]

Jamie9 wrote...

Maiden Crowe wrote...
Time in the fade is not linear thus it is entirely possible that Morrigan who entered the Fade physically found an exit point at an earlier point in history during an earlier Blight and performed the ritual there, it doesn't matter if you do the ritual or not as Morrigan still has a child no matter what, so if the child isn't the Warden's, Alistair's or Loghain's then who's is it?

That's not true. If you don't romance her or do the ritual, the epilogue mentions her being seen at court in Orlais, with no mention of being with child.

She never brings up any child in Witch Hunt either, but rather expresses regret that you refused her.

Plus Mike Laidlaw was quite clear on the fact that if you didn't do the dark ritual the child does not exist. 

[Shared]

Rane7685 wrote...

I still dont see why Morrigan cant be the baddie. Even if you didnt do the ritual she bailed to do her own thing (god knows what). Who knows maybe she found a way to rip the Fade. Plus I genuinely cant remember but I'm pretty sure I killed Corypheus

Everyone killed him, but everyone also get an ending scene where no matter what, one tainted walks away different then they where before. Either the creepy ghoul dude, or the mage lady. Its a HUGE hes not dead cliffhanger.

[Taleroth]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Taleroth wrote...

It would be a tragedy if the bad guy were some returning character from a DLC.

Why is that?

Because big bads are supposed to be special. Some new guy with new ideas that spurs a new conflict. They're the prime mover of a sort. We already know what Corpheus is about. Inquisition being a follow up to a DLC just seems so mundane, like we should have dealt with it already.

Modifié par Taleroth, 05 septembre 2013 - 03:37 .

[mikeymoonshine]

Oh and I should probably clarify that I was joking when I said it would be sandal. I think it will have something to do with Tervinter but I think the villian will be a new one.