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[FireAndBlood]

I still think it is going to be Vengeance.

[The Elder King]

FireAndBlood wrote...

I still think it is going to be Vengeance.

In Hawke's body.

[Fiery Phoenix]

Rane7685 wrote...

I think its the old god baby. I actually think Morrigan (or her child) will be the antagonist in this game

I wish people would stop thinking of the OGB as canonical. It was OPTIONAL. You never once had to go with it.

As for Morrigan, however, that's an interesting possibility which I've entertained with a friend.

[Vapaa]

Maiden Crowe wrote...

Of course, if the ritual isn't performed the OGB cant exist, but even if your warden didn't perform the Dark Ritual then how do you know somebody else didn't?

To make a OBG, you would need an Archdemon, an to have an Archdemon, you would need a blight, wich hasn't happen since exactly...the one in DAO

No blight since, no Archdemon, no ritual, no OGB

Modifié par Vapaä, 05 septembre 2013 - 06:21 .

[DarkKnightHolmes]

If Corypheus is the main villain then damnit Hawke, can't you fix anything?

[Angrywolves]

There supposedly won't be one huge badguy/boss at the end.
Of course some players are desperate for Flemeth and/or Morrigan to be behind it all because they believe they need that as an excuse to kill them.
You don't need any excuse to kill anyone in DAI .
Still feel Corypheus, the other Tevinter magespawn, perhaps Dumat or some of the other old Gods are behind it.
Since the Inquisitor will visit Tevinter it would fit.

[Maiden Crowe]

Vapaä wrote...

Maiden Crowe wrote...

Of course, if the ritual isn't performed the OGB cant exist, but even if your warden didn't perform the Dark Ritual then how do you know somebody else didn't?

To make a OBG, you would need an Archdemon, an to have an Archdemon, you would need a blight, wich hasn't happen since exactly...the one in DAO

No blight since, no Archdemon, no ritual, no OGB

Honestly this would go a lot smoother if you just read the previous posts in this thread, would eliminate a lot of superfluous posts.

Of course there hasn't been another blight between the events of Origins and that of Inquisition but that doesn't mean that Blights haven't happened before in the past.

[Vapaa]

Maiden Crowe wrote...

Of course there hasn't been another blight between the events of Origins and that of Inquisition but that doesn't mean that Blights haven't happened before in the past.

Yes there has been blights, I don't see how it connects to your point that "someone could've known the ritual"

[Zack_Nero]

I still say it is Cole from the Asunder novel.

[Maiden Crowe]

Vapaä wrote...

Maiden Crowe wrote...

Of course there hasn't been another blight between the events of Origins and that of Inquisition but that doesn't mean that Blights haven't happened before in the past.

Yes there has been blights, I don't see how it connects to your point that "someone could've known the ritual"

Go further back

[Spectre slayer]

Maiden Crowe wrote...

Vapaä wrote...
David Gaider already answered: if there's no ritual, there's no OGB, the end

Of course, if the ritual isn't performed the OGB cant exist, but even if your warden didn't perform the Dark Ritual then how do you know somebody else didn't?
You seem to be forgetting the most important question, how exactly does Morrigan know of the ritual if nobody has ever performed it?

Are you really asking these questions because Morrigan tells you that Flemeth gave her the ritual and that she already knew what would happen if the warden refused to do the ritual at all which is die when the archdemon soul enters them and destroys both of their souls which means no ritual =no God baby.

How do we know no one else did until let's see Rioridan himself confirms that NO grey warden has survived killing the archdemon and was the only way that he knew of to stop the blight, until Morrigan tells you about Flemeth's ritual.

I'm not sure where the "but even if they refuse, the other Grey Wardens of the world may not have the same resolve..." comes from. Speculation on the part of the article writer, perhaps? Regardless, if the player refused the Dark Ritual then it was refused. There is no Old God Baby.

This is the quote people were talking about.

Modifié par Spectre slayer, 06 septembre 2013 - 05:39 .

[GDog89]

Rick Ashley n his Rick Roll

[Steppenwolf]

I would honestly be shocked if Flemeth weren't the big bad. She's been manipulating important figures and events behind the scenes for who knows how long and she's obviously been doing it for more than poops and giggles.
My money is on Corypheus being an enemy that we must dispatch in Inquisition, but only to wrest control of the Grey Wardens away from him and potentially gain their allegiance.

[Maiden Crowe]

Spectre slayer wrote...

How do we know no one else did until let's see Rioridan himself confirms that NO grey warden has survived killing the archdemon and was the only way that he knew of to stop the blight, until Morrigan tells you about Flemeth's ritual.

Well I guess that only confirms that either Riordan himself was in the dark or that he was purposely hiding the fact that there is a way to survive the killing of the Archdemon.

Do you really think the Wardens would want to make it known to their recruits that they can survive the killing of the Archdemon by creating a monster?

[Vapaa]

Maiden Crowe wrote...

Go further back

Glossing over the time travel BS, the most recent candidate is Toth from the third blight...that was 600 years ago, so the OGB must've waited 600 years not doing anything ?

[Maiden Crowe]

Vapaä wrote...

Maiden Crowe wrote...

Go further back

Glossing over the time travel BS, the most recent candidate is Toth from the third blight...that was 600 years ago, so the OGB must've waited 600 years not doing anything ?

How the hell should I know? I guess it is possible since nobody knows exactly how long an OGB lives for however I think it is more plausible that Morrigan simply used the Eluvian to travel back into the present.

[Spectre slayer]

Maiden Crowe wrote...

Vapaä wrote...

Maiden Crowe wrote...

Go further back

Glossing over the time travel BS, the most recent candidate is Toth from the third blight...that was 600 years ago, so the OGB must've waited 600 years not doing anything ?

How the hell should I know? I guess it is possible since nobody knows exactly how long an OGB lives for however I think it is more plausible that Morrigan simply used the Eluvian to travel back into the present.

Lol just stop it already every single archdemon from the last 1,000+ years is confirmed times be dead and had it's soul destroyed when a grey warden kills it the quote applies  to this aswell sorry, and there are no other old God baby's out there, there is no time travel

[Vapaa]

Maiden Crowe wrote...

How the hell should I know?

You came up with that idea, it's up to you to fix the plotholes

Maiden Crowe wrote...

I guess it is possible since nobody knows exactly how long an OGB lives for however I think it is more plausible that Morrigan simply used the Eluvian to travel back into the present.

So your point only stands because it's build on some made up time travel not supported by the lore, that's called fanfiction

[Maiden Crowe]

Spectre slayer wrote...

Maiden Crowe wrote...

Vapaä wrote...

Maiden Crowe wrote...

Go further back

Glossing over the time travel BS, the most recent candidate is Toth from the third blight...that was 600 years ago, so the OGB must've waited 600 years not doing anything ?

How the hell should I know? I guess it is possible since nobody knows exactly how long an OGB lives for however I think it is more plausible that Morrigan simply used the Eluvian to travel back into the present.

Lol just stop it already every single archdemon from the last 1,000+ years is confirmed times be dead and had it's soul destroyed when a grey warden kills it the quote applies  to this aswell sorry, and there are no other old God baby's out there, there is no time travel

Yeah ok, I am getting bored of it anyway.

Still I think it is pretty funny that the most interesting hanging plot thread from Origins just gets swept under the rug, I mean why did they even put the option there in the first place if they never planned to do anything with it? Were they so afraid that the player couldn't bear seeing their character or one of their companions die so they gave them an easy way out?

[Spectre slayer]

The first blight begins in 800 TE led by Dumat lasts close to 200 years before a grey warden finally killed it during the battle of the silent field's 1,000+ years before DAO confirmed to be dead and it's spine and claw was made a set of weapons.[992TE]

The second blight begins in 1199 TE led by Zazikale lasts 90 years until a grey warden named Corn kills it in 1289 TE at the battle of Starkheaven confirmed to be dead.

The third blight begins in 1404 TE led by Toth and killed by a grey warden at Hunters Fell after just 15 years the weapon used to kill it became the thorn of the dead God's after it shattered in 1419 TE. Confirmed to be dead.

The fourth blight ends in 1618 TE led by Andoral killed by the Elven hero Garharel at the battle of Ayesleigh. Confirmed to be dead.

The fifth blight begin in 2024 TE led by Urhemiel ends after 1 years in 2025 TE after a grey warden kills or does the ritual.

So exactly where's your God baby in any of that lol.

It will be dealt with in this game or the next.

Modifié par Spectre slayer, 06 septembre 2013 - 06:27 .

[Maiden Crowe]

Spectre slayer wrote...

The first blight begins in 800 TE led by Dumat lasts close to 200 years before a grey warden finally killed it during the battle of the silent field's 1,000+ years before DAO confirmed to be dead and it's spine and claw was made a set of weapons.[992TE]

The second blight begins in 1199 TE led by Zazikale lasts 90 years until a grey warden named Corn kills it in 1289 TE at the battle of Starkheaven confirmed to be dead.

The third blight begins in 1404 TE led by Toth and killed by a grey warden at Hunters Fell after just 15 years the weapon used to kill it became the thorn of the dead God's after it shattered in 1419 TE. Confirmed to be dead.

The fourth blight ends in 1618 TE led by Andoral killed by the Elven hero Garharel at the battle of Ayesleigh. Confirmed to be dead.

The fifth blight begin in 2024 TE led by Urhemiel ends after 1 years in 2025 TE after a grey warden kills or does the ritual.

So exactly where's your God baby in any of that lol.

It will be dealt with in this game or the next.

Ah but what is to stop someone from performing the ritual then killing the Grey Warden themselves after they defeat the Archdemon making it look like the Grey Warden was killed by absorbing the Archdemon's soul? 

Modifié par Maiden Crowe, 06 septembre 2013 - 06:33 .

[Vapaa]

Maiden Crowe wrote...

Ah but what is to stop someone from performing the ritual then killing the Grey Warden themselves after they defeat the Archdemon making it look like the Grey Warden was killed by absorbing the Archdemon's soul? 

...you're just grasping at straws

[Spectre slayer]

Maiden Crowe wrote...

Spectre slayer wrote...

The first blight begins in 800 TE led by Dumat lasts close to 200 years before a grey warden finally killed it during the battle of the silent field's 1,000+ years before DAO confirmed to be dead and it's spine and claw was made a set of weapons.[992TE]

The second blight begins in 1199 TE led by Zazikale lasts 90 years until a grey warden named Corn kills it in 1289 TE at the battle of Starkheaven confirmed to be dead.

The third blight begins in 1404 TE led by Toth and killed by a grey warden at Hunters Fell after just 15 years the weapon used to kill it became the thorn of the dead God's after it shattered in 1419 TE. Confirmed to be dead.

The fourth blight ends in 1618 TE led by Andoral killed by the Elven hero Garharel at the battle of Ayesleigh. Confirmed to be dead.

The fifth blight begin in 2024 TE led by Urhemiel ends after 1 years in 2025 TE after a grey warden kills or does the ritual.

So exactly where's your God baby in any of that lol.

It will be dealt with in this game or the next.

Ah but what is to stop someone from performing the ritual then killing the Grey Warden themselves after they defeat the Archdemon making it look like the Grey Warden was killed by absorbing the Archdemon's soul? 

Stop trolling the only creature that knows the ritual is Flemeth and every single one that I mentioned killed the Archdemon in front of armies and then died because the archdemon and grey wardens soul destroy each other also Gaider quote covers every archdemon that was ever killed by a grey warden.

[Taura-Tierno]

Angrywolves wrote...

There supposedly won't be one huge badguy/boss at the end.
Of course some players are desperate for Flemeth and/or Morrigan to be behind it all because they believe they need that as an excuse to kill them.
You don't need any excuse to kill anyone in DAI .
Still feel Corypheus, the other Tevinter magespawn, perhaps Dumat or some of the other old Gods are behind it.
Since the Inquisitor will visit Tevinter it would fit.

Why would we hope for it to be Flemeth simply because we want an excuse to kill them? I don't want to kill Flemeth, but I'd be surprised if she weren't involved. Personally, I believe that Flemeth has a very significant connection to the Old Gods or other ancient beings. She has made enough references to her being much more than she appears. And then throw in the Godchild plans ... I think she's up to something along the lines of wanting to reshape or change the world in some way. Tearing up the veil is just a means to an end.