I decided before I begin my adventure that I would look for a build to follow. I have found two Sorcerer builds but if they are really viable so I figured I should just ask.
http://www.gamebansh...es/sorcerer.php
http://nwn.wikia.com..._pale_master_12
I also learned that Sorcerers are limited to spells, while Wizards are not. Sorcerers apparently for experienced users - Those that know what spells to pick. Wizards much better for beginners. Can anyone weigh in on that?
I am clueless and overwhelmed.
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Posté 05 septembre 2013 - 04:29
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Is this your first character you've ever played? And for the original NWN campaign?
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Posté 05 septembre 2013 - 05:06
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Wizards can learn pretty much any number of spells, but must decide before resting which spells (of the ones they know) that they want to be able to cast. They also typically gain access to the next level of spells one class level earlier than sorcerers.
Sorcerers learn fewer spells, but they are able to cast any spell they know at any time, so long as they have open "spell slots" of that spell level.
Take a 1st level wizard for example. He may know 6 different spells 1st level spells, but only be able to cast 3 1st level spells per day. He must pick from those 6 known spells...three different spells, or two magic missiles and a mage armor, for instance.
A sorcerer may only know 2 or 3 spells to start out, but after resting he can cast more spells per day, and he can pick which to cast at the time of casting.
For a new player that wants to do a spellcaster, I'd actually go with sorcerer. You only have to know the details of a few spells, you don't have to plan ahead as much (thanks to not having to decide ahead of time which spells to prepare), and you can typically fire off more spells per day than a wizard. You still get a familiar to help you out, and in NWN you can always change out your known spells each time you level up.
Sorcerers learn fewer spells, but they are able to cast any spell they know at any time, so long as they have open "spell slots" of that spell level.
Take a 1st level wizard for example. He may know 6 different spells 1st level spells, but only be able to cast 3 1st level spells per day. He must pick from those 6 known spells...three different spells, or two magic missiles and a mage armor, for instance.
A sorcerer may only know 2 or 3 spells to start out, but after resting he can cast more spells per day, and he can pick which to cast at the time of casting.
For a new player that wants to do a spellcaster, I'd actually go with sorcerer. You only have to know the details of a few spells, you don't have to plan ahead as much (thanks to not having to decide ahead of time which spells to prepare), and you can typically fire off more spells per day than a wizard. You still get a familiar to help you out, and in NWN you can always change out your known spells each time you level up.
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Posté 05 septembre 2013 - 05:15
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What race do you want?
And the thing to understand about magic in NWN is that it's based on something called Vancian magic. If you want to cast a Fireball spell, you need to put it in your spellbook and rest. If you decided you'd rather cast Lightning Bolt instead (another spell of similar power) - too bad, you memorized Fireball. To cast Lightning Bolt, you need to remove Fireball, put in Lightning Bolt, and rest.
Magic also has something called spell levels - the higher the spell level, the stronger the spell (generally). Burning Hands is a level 1 spell. Fireball is a level 3 spell. Meteor Swarm is a level 9 spell. In addition to Burning Hands, Mage Armor and Summon Creature I are also level 1 spells (among many others).
So if you have 5 level one spell slots available, you could do something like memorize 3 Burning Hands, 1 Mage Armor, and 1 Summon Creature I. If you cast Mage Armor and Summon Creature I, then have the summon die and you want to recast Summon Creature I again - you can't. Because all you have is 3 Burning Hands (until you rest). In other words, you have to pick both the type of spell and how many of the spell to memorize - but you're free to constantly change what spells you have memorized (so you might know 10 level 1 spells and swap them around between rests).
A sorcerer (and bard) says "That's a terrible magic system, I'm way cooler." Instead of knowing a bunch of spells and then choosing which ones to prepare (and how many of each), they pick a limited number of spells to know and then cast whatever they'd like for that spell level as long as they haven't used up all their available spells.
So if a Sorcerer knows Mage Armor, Burning Hands, and Summon Creature I and has 5 level 1 spells per day, he can cast any one of those spells at any time until he's cast 5 level 1 spells. But if he suddenly needs a cold damage spell instead of fire, he's out of luck - he cannot change his spells known until he levels again.
So a Wizard is freer to experiment with spells but it also has a lot less flexibility while casting. Both are powerful in their own right and have their own advantages (though I personally prefer Sorcerers and think they're stronger overall - but Wizards definitely are superior in some situations).
Which of those sounds more interesting to you? Being able to cast any spell as long as you know it (but you have then specify exactly which spells you want and how many of them you want to cast) or being limited in your spells known but being able to freely cast within that selection?
And the thing to understand about magic in NWN is that it's based on something called Vancian magic. If you want to cast a Fireball spell, you need to put it in your spellbook and rest. If you decided you'd rather cast Lightning Bolt instead (another spell of similar power) - too bad, you memorized Fireball. To cast Lightning Bolt, you need to remove Fireball, put in Lightning Bolt, and rest.
Magic also has something called spell levels - the higher the spell level, the stronger the spell (generally). Burning Hands is a level 1 spell. Fireball is a level 3 spell. Meteor Swarm is a level 9 spell. In addition to Burning Hands, Mage Armor and Summon Creature I are also level 1 spells (among many others).
So if you have 5 level one spell slots available, you could do something like memorize 3 Burning Hands, 1 Mage Armor, and 1 Summon Creature I. If you cast Mage Armor and Summon Creature I, then have the summon die and you want to recast Summon Creature I again - you can't. Because all you have is 3 Burning Hands (until you rest). In other words, you have to pick both the type of spell and how many of the spell to memorize - but you're free to constantly change what spells you have memorized (so you might know 10 level 1 spells and swap them around between rests).
A sorcerer (and bard) says "That's a terrible magic system, I'm way cooler." Instead of knowing a bunch of spells and then choosing which ones to prepare (and how many of each), they pick a limited number of spells to know and then cast whatever they'd like for that spell level as long as they haven't used up all their available spells.
So if a Sorcerer knows Mage Armor, Burning Hands, and Summon Creature I and has 5 level 1 spells per day, he can cast any one of those spells at any time until he's cast 5 level 1 spells. But if he suddenly needs a cold damage spell instead of fire, he's out of luck - he cannot change his spells known until he levels again.
So a Wizard is freer to experiment with spells but it also has a lot less flexibility while casting. Both are powerful in their own right and have their own advantages (though I personally prefer Sorcerers and think they're stronger overall - but Wizards definitely are superior in some situations).
Which of those sounds more interesting to you? Being able to cast any spell as long as you know it (but you have then specify exactly which spells you want and how many of them you want to cast) or being limited in your spells known but being able to freely cast within that selection?
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Posté 05 septembre 2013 - 07:07
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For learning about mages and particularly about arcane spells and when to use them in a SP campaign like the OC, I would really go with a wizard toon first. (And don't specialize in a spell school, either. Save that until after learning what spells are useful in what situations and figuring which ones one can do without.) You will get way more experience with what spells are available at each level and in which situations you want them in your arsenal. In addition, wizards get extra caster feats you will learn likely more about mage feat utility playing a wizard toon than a sorcerer.
Don't misunderstand: There are lots of advantages to spontaneous casters and there are definitely excellent sorcerer builds out there. But, since this is for the OC (where you can survive with nearly any build) and since the OP isn't familiar with mages, playing a wizard will give valuable experience that he just won't get with a sorcerer. Half of playing a sorcerer well is picking good spells to learn for each level. But, that also means that it's possible (likely even) to play a sorcerer through his whole career without ever knowing what many spells do. As a wizard, if one picks spells while leveling that don't seem to be doing much good, there is always the option of going back to town and buying some scrolls. Simiarly, if a tough encounter goes badly and leaves a player wondering which spells are worth having ready when facing a particular type of foe, then a easy reload and shuffle of the spell book before resting can let him replay the encounter and learn what works. Playing a wizard will allow the player to experiment with many more spells and learn enough about them that, when he does play a sorcerer, he will be able to pick usable spells and not get stuck with a level 10 sorcerer looking for Quint Jhareg with Mind Fog as his fifth level spell. ;-)
Don't misunderstand: There are lots of advantages to spontaneous casters and there are definitely excellent sorcerer builds out there. But, since this is for the OC (where you can survive with nearly any build) and since the OP isn't familiar with mages, playing a wizard will give valuable experience that he just won't get with a sorcerer. Half of playing a sorcerer well is picking good spells to learn for each level. But, that also means that it's possible (likely even) to play a sorcerer through his whole career without ever knowing what many spells do. As a wizard, if one picks spells while leveling that don't seem to be doing much good, there is always the option of going back to town and buying some scrolls. Simiarly, if a tough encounter goes badly and leaves a player wondering which spells are worth having ready when facing a particular type of foe, then a easy reload and shuffle of the spell book before resting can let him replay the encounter and learn what works. Playing a wizard will allow the player to experiment with many more spells and learn enough about them that, when he does play a sorcerer, he will be able to pick usable spells and not get stuck with a level 10 sorcerer looking for Quint Jhareg with Mind Fog as his fifth level spell. ;-)
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Posté 05 septembre 2013 - 08:10
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MrZork wrote...
(And don't specialize in a spell school, either. Save that until after learning what spells are useful in what situations and figuring which ones one can do without.)
If you do decide to go with a wizard, this is good advice for the first one.
MrZork wrote...
You will get way more experience with what spells are available at each level and in which situations you want them in your arsenal. In addition, wizards get extra caster feats you will learn likely more about mage feat utility playing a wizard toon than a sorcerer.
True to some degree on the feats, but you will need to buy and learn spells from scrolls to truly know a ton of spells.
MrZork wrote...
Playing a wizard will allow the player to experiment with many more spells and learn enough about them that, when he does play a sorcerer, he will be able to pick usable spells and not get stuck with a level 10 sorcerer looking for Quint Jhareg with Mind Fog as his fifth level spell. ;-)
Well, in this case we'd be providing a spell list to prevent such a situation.
I also recall my first character was a sorcerer, I had no clue about DnD, and I managed to make it through (I was an elf sorcerer wielding a rapier and using default summons. Ugh.).
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Posté 05 septembre 2013 - 08:32
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Ancient Stuck In the Mud here with a personal opinion....
Love Wizards; loathe Sorcerers. Why? Because Sorcerers are based on CHA, and that has very little application in much of the game, esp on PW's. OTOH, Wizards are based on INT, and this also helps Skills among other things. And a Wizard/ Rogue is a wondermous example of synergetics.
Love freecasting like Sorcerers and Bards (and Clerics to a small degree), and offer this as a PnP home rule to all casters, but have had little reason to try it in this game, even after all these years. Yeah, there are some powerful builds and such for Sorcerers, but it still comes down to CHA. And I still cannot get past the "Fear me, for I am personable" baggage....
Love Wizards; loathe Sorcerers. Why? Because Sorcerers are based on CHA, and that has very little application in much of the game, esp on PW's. OTOH, Wizards are based on INT, and this also helps Skills among other things. And a Wizard/ Rogue is a wondermous example of synergetics.
Love freecasting like Sorcerers and Bards (and Clerics to a small degree), and offer this as a PnP home rule to all casters, but have had little reason to try it in this game, even after all these years. Yeah, there are some powerful builds and such for Sorcerers, but it still comes down to CHA. And I still cannot get past the "Fear me, for I am personable" baggage....
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Posté 05 septembre 2013 - 09:23
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"It represents actual personal strength, not merely how one is perceived by others in a social setting."
Basically, it goes like this...
Wizard: I am super smart and study lots of books and with my super smartness I can do magic.
Sorcerer: Study magic? I'm just gonna control it with the sheer force of my will and bend the laws of physics to my whims.
Cheese-wise, stuff like Sorc/Paladin (or Blackguard) can be crazy. Wizard/rogue can have lots of skills but Sorc/Paladins can be nigh indestructible.
Basically, it goes like this...
Wizard: I am super smart and study lots of books and with my super smartness I can do magic.
Sorcerer: Study magic? I'm just gonna control it with the sheer force of my will and bend the laws of physics to my whims.
Cheese-wise, stuff like Sorc/Paladin (or Blackguard) can be crazy. Wizard/rogue can have lots of skills but Sorc/Paladins can be nigh indestructible.
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Posté 05 septembre 2013 - 09:29
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So I have read. But it still is based on CHA, which has very little else to do in the game.
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Posté 05 septembre 2013 - 10:48
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Well, consider this - what would Gandalf be?
Do we see him constantly studying tomes for magic? No (he does for knowledge, but not magic).
Magic is simply a fundamental part of him - more like a sorcerer. Control of magic through personal strength instead of careful study.
Do we see him constantly studying tomes for magic? No (he does for knowledge, but not magic).
Magic is simply a fundamental part of him - more like a sorcerer. Control of magic through personal strength instead of careful study.
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Posté 05 septembre 2013 - 11:02
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RP examples are abundant, and many of such cases could be used on either Class. But the mechanics of NWN have little use for CHA besides free casting and Persuasion skills; not my choice of the day. Simply warning the newbies of this speedbump in the road.
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Posté 05 septembre 2013 - 11:15
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True - but unless you're doing skill dumps, having access to more skill points doesn't help very much. The combat skills are Concentration, Spellcraft, and maybe Tumble for a mage. Anything else is gravy by default but usually irrelevant to combat.
And your stealth/open lock scores would be abysmal - disable trap/search might be reasonably high but you'd still need rogue levels to detect the high end traps.
Anyway, let's not confuse the new guy too much. What we're saying boils down to is that wizards versus sorcs have different multiclass options and have different benefits, some of which are more useful than others in certain situations.
And your stealth/open lock scores would be abysmal - disable trap/search might be reasonably high but you'd still need rogue levels to detect the high end traps.
Anyway, let's not confuse the new guy too much. What we're saying boils down to is that wizards versus sorcs have different multiclass options and have different benefits, some of which are more useful than others in certain situations.
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Posté 05 septembre 2013 - 11:50
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I rarely use massive Skill dumps, and am willing to often go with 8 or 10 lvls of Rogue with Wizard, and with UMD to cover Divine items, this makes for fairly versatile character. I prefer icing over gravy....
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Posté 06 septembre 2013 - 12:23
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But then we're getting very far away from the idea of a pure-ish arcane caster which is what the OP wants. So let's not go down that route in this thread for his sake.
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Posté 06 septembre 2013 - 01:27
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I didn't, except for including the greater synergy with INT vs CHA. Even a pure Wizard can utilize the resultant Skill pts and other INT related abilities over the few CHA based options that Sorcerer provides, at least from my POV.
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Posté 07 septembre 2013 - 12:23
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I appreciate the responses. I was hoping to be linked to some builds that I could check out though.
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Posté 07 septembre 2013 - 12:39
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While I prefer to add a few Rogue lvls, the Melee Mage build has some excellent info and tips for playing a Wizard:
http://home.comcast....uild301814.html
http://home.comcast....uild301814.html
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Posté 07 septembre 2013 - 06:32
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I asked what race you wanted! But if we assume human, here's a sorcerer build that works along the principle of "Nuke everything." You'll likely be using the Rod of Frost for a few levels, though, until you get enough spells per day.
Human
8 STR
8 DEX
16 CON
12 INT
8 WIS
18 CHA
Skills: Concentration, Spellcraft, Tumble, Persuade (Persuade can be changed for something else if you want)
1: Spell Focus: Evocation, Toughness
3: Greater Spell Focus: Evocation
6: Empower Spell
9: Maximize Spell
12: Silent Spell
15. Extend Spell
18. Great Fortitude
Spells Chosen:
1: Mage Armor, Burning Hands
3: Protection from Alignment
4: Ghostly Visage
5: Combust, Identify
6: Fireball
7: Scintillating Sphere, Knock, Summon Creature I
8: Stoneskin
9: Find Traps, Improved Invisibility, Endurance
10: Firebrand
11: Cone of Cold, Elemental Shield, Haste, Bull's Strength
12: Isaac's Greater Missile Storm
13: True Seeing, Mestil's Acid Sheath, Ice Storm
14: Shadow Shield
15: Bigby's Grasping Hand, Chain Lightning, Bigby's Interposing Hand
16: Premonition
17: Horriding Wilting, Spell Mantle
18: Time Stop
19: Mord's Disjunction, Greater Sanctuary
20: Wail of the Banshee
Human
8 STR
8 DEX
16 CON
12 INT
8 WIS
18 CHA
Skills: Concentration, Spellcraft, Tumble, Persuade (Persuade can be changed for something else if you want)
1: Spell Focus: Evocation, Toughness
3: Greater Spell Focus: Evocation
6: Empower Spell
9: Maximize Spell
12: Silent Spell
15. Extend Spell
18. Great Fortitude
Spells Chosen:
1: Mage Armor, Burning Hands
3: Protection from Alignment
4: Ghostly Visage
5: Combust, Identify
6: Fireball
7: Scintillating Sphere, Knock, Summon Creature I
8: Stoneskin
9: Find Traps, Improved Invisibility, Endurance
10: Firebrand
11: Cone of Cold, Elemental Shield, Haste, Bull's Strength
12: Isaac's Greater Missile Storm
13: True Seeing, Mestil's Acid Sheath, Ice Storm
14: Shadow Shield
15: Bigby's Grasping Hand, Chain Lightning, Bigby's Interposing Hand
16: Premonition
17: Horriding Wilting, Spell Mantle
18: Time Stop
19: Mord's Disjunction, Greater Sanctuary
20: Wail of the Banshee
Modifié par MagicalMaster, 07 septembre 2013 - 06:32 .
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Posté 07 septembre 2013 - 10:24
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MagicalMaster wrote...
I asked what race you wanted! But if we assume human, here's a sorcerer build that works along the principle of "Nuke everything." You'll likely be using the Rod of Frost for a few levels, though, until you get enough spells per day.
Human
8 STR
8 DEX
16 CON
12 INT
8 WIS
18 CHA
Skills: Concentration, Spellcraft, Tumble, Persuade (Persuade can be changed for something else if you want)
1: Spell Focus: Evocation, Toughness
3: Greater Spell Focus: Evocation
6: Empower Spell
9: Maximize Spell
12: Silent Spell
15. Extend Spell
18. Great Fortitude
Spells Chosen:
1: Mage Armor, Burning Hands
3: Protection from Alignment
4: Ghostly Visage
5: Combust, Identify
6: Fireball
7: Scintillating Sphere, Knock, Summon Creature I
8: Stoneskin
9: Find Traps, Improved Invisibility, Endurance
10: Firebrand
11: Cone of Cold, Elemental Shield, Haste, Bull's Strength
12: Isaac's Greater Missile Storm
13: True Seeing, Mestil's Acid Sheath, Ice Storm
14: Shadow Shield
15: Bigby's Grasping Hand, Chain Lightning, Bigby's Interposing Hand
16: Premonition
17: Horriding Wilting, Spell Mantle
18: Time Stop
19: Mord's Disjunction, Greater Sanctuary
20: Wail of the Banshee
I do not know what I want as I still cannot choose. What I want to be is a high damage caster that can survive. I am relying on a build/guide to follow that would make me a great caster character for the main campagin and expasions.
Modifié par Kier1992, 07 septembre 2013 - 10:26 .
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Posté 07 septembre 2013 - 10:31
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That build I just posted will be just that. It has high HP for a caster, plenty of defensive spells, and lots of high damage spells.
And some people want to be a particular race when playing.
And some people want to be a particular race when playing.
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Posté 08 septembre 2013 - 09:46
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MagicalMaster wrote...
That build I just posted will be just that. It has high HP for a caster, plenty of defensive spells, and lots of high damage spells.
And some people want to be a particular race when playing.
I am not fussed about race. I know sometimes some races are better for specfic classes, so yeah... Thanks for the build. What do you think of an all out Socerer as appose to a Socerer that is part Paladin? I am hearing Paladin is quite good.
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Posté 08 septembre 2013 - 05:21
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Sometimes people will take a level or three in paladin for a few reasons.
1, you'll gain a Saving Throw Bonus equal to your Charisma modifier for 1 paladin level, which will help versus many spells and traps.
2, you'll gain the wear heavy armor for 1 paladin level, so if you choose the Still Spell feat, you can theoretically cast in full plate armor with a tower shield. However, this means your spells will be weaker overall. This is mainly good if you can pick up the Auto-Still Spell feat in epic levels which eliminates the Still Spell penalty.
3, for 3 paladin levels, you'll also be able to pick up a feat called Divine Shield which will allow you to add your Charisma modifier to your armor class, making it harder for enemies to hit you. Note that this is really only worth it if you also have the full plate.
In general, I'd suggest you stick with pure sorcerer for the moment. If you really want to abuse mechanics, you could throw in a level of Paladin (or two levels of Blackguard) once you're at least, say, level 15. Keep in mind your spellcasting will then lag behind slightly - so if you're still struggling and feel like you don't have enough spells or strong enough spells, keep going pure Sorcerer until at least level 20.
In general, just going pure Sorcerer will be a lot simpler for your first playthrough and it is more than plenty powerful - you'll absolutely wreck things past like level 8.
1, you'll gain a Saving Throw Bonus equal to your Charisma modifier for 1 paladin level, which will help versus many spells and traps.
2, you'll gain the wear heavy armor for 1 paladin level, so if you choose the Still Spell feat, you can theoretically cast in full plate armor with a tower shield. However, this means your spells will be weaker overall. This is mainly good if you can pick up the Auto-Still Spell feat in epic levels which eliminates the Still Spell penalty.
3, for 3 paladin levels, you'll also be able to pick up a feat called Divine Shield which will allow you to add your Charisma modifier to your armor class, making it harder for enemies to hit you. Note that this is really only worth it if you also have the full plate.
In general, I'd suggest you stick with pure sorcerer for the moment. If you really want to abuse mechanics, you could throw in a level of Paladin (or two levels of Blackguard) once you're at least, say, level 15. Keep in mind your spellcasting will then lag behind slightly - so if you're still struggling and feel like you don't have enough spells or strong enough spells, keep going pure Sorcerer until at least level 20.
In general, just going pure Sorcerer will be a lot simpler for your first playthrough and it is more than plenty powerful - you'll absolutely wreck things past like level 8.
Modifié par MagicalMaster, 10 septembre 2013 - 04:02 .
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Posté 09 septembre 2013 - 09:41
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The OP should know that sorcerers can change known spells when leveling up, exchanging one known spell for a different one. This is particularly useful when a spell is valuable at lower levels but there are better ones as levels go up. For instance, for the first several levels, the Sleep spell can be quite useful. But, there comes a time when the toon isn't really facing enemies of 5 HD or lower (or can take care of them without spells) and so he might swap the spell for something more useful.
For a run through the OC, it's worth keeping in mind that a caster will typically get to level 17 or 18. So, anything saved for levels 18, 19, or 20 might not see much (or any) use in the campaign.
Which reminds me of one comment on the spell list above: At level 18, Time Stop may not be the most useful spell for this toon in the OC. It is certainly a very useful spell, but one can often get by without it in most SP campaigns and it is available in scroll form, which will work just as well, except perhaps for a hasted caster. Obviously, this is a personal preference for the OC, but I would probably grab Wail early and just keep a stack of Time Stop scrolls handy when needed.
For a run through the OC, it's worth keeping in mind that a caster will typically get to level 17 or 18. So, anything saved for levels 18, 19, or 20 might not see much (or any) use in the campaign.
Which reminds me of one comment on the spell list above: At level 18, Time Stop may not be the most useful spell for this toon in the OC. It is certainly a very useful spell, but one can often get by without it in most SP campaigns and it is available in scroll form, which will work just as well, except perhaps for a hasted caster. Obviously, this is a personal preference for the OC, but I would probably grab Wail early and just keep a stack of Time Stop scrolls handy when needed.
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Posté 09 septembre 2013 - 12:16
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Thanks MagicalMaster and MrZork. I got around to creating my character but I have to pop out in a minute so I couldn't progress. Unfortunately the camera movement is quite annoying lol.
