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[MagicalMaster]

MrZork wrote...

At level 18, Time Stop may not be the most useful spell for this toon in the OC. It is certainly a very useful spell, but one can often get by without it in most SP campaigns and it is available in scroll form, which will work just as well, except perhaps for a hasted caster. Obviously, this is a personal preference for the OC, but I would probably grab Wail early and just keep a stack of Time Stop scrolls handy when needed.

He'll be perma-hasted from at least chapter 3 on (vendor Boots of Speed).  Which means the casted version is far superior.  If needed, he can time stop + 2 offensive spells + time stop + 2 offensive spells to wreck everything.  Ultimate trump card in the campaign.

[MrZork]

There is no disagreement that some combination of hasted TS + nuking spells + Greater Sanctuary is a powerful combo in the OC (and elsewhere). But, he can easily get by without it and, IMO, have more fun with other level 9 spells, particularly given the reality that he will only get one level 9 spell in the OC.

Of course, my experience may not be indicative of a typical play through. I don't think I have ever gotten to level 18 much before hitting the Source Stone. I suppose someone who got there before facing a certain Chapter 3 red dragon would have been quite happy to use the TS trump card. ;-)

[MagicalMaster]

Nah, he wouldn't hit level 18 prior to the last chapter for sure, even if soloing.

But Maximized IGMS will usually be better than any other level 9 spell except maybe Wail.

[MrZork]

Maxed IGMS is probably the best spell in the game versus any single opponent, particularly in the OC (designed before that spell was added to the game) where it is likely to one shot all but a few bosses. Wail probably has the edge against tough groups and bosses smart enough to call in familiars and summons, unless they are high fort save types (which is the case in some of the Chapter 4 encounters).

Unfortunately, using maxed IGMS and TS together can be something of a squeeze with only 4 total level 9 slots and no rests once getting to the final area. Not hard to overcome with all the other spells the toon would have (and the buggy nature of the final encounter), though.

[Elhanan]

In all the years I have played this game, Time Stop has rarely ever been used by me. Personally, I prefer versatility in my characters, and try and avoid repeated use of the same spells and tactics.

As Mages are not my strong suit, my 'tutorials' in learning were mods made by Hugie. And while I do not care for low lvls, the mods by Fester Pot certainly made playing them a lot more enjoyable.

[MagicalMaster]

MrZork wrote...

Unfortunately, using maxed IGMS and TS together can be something of a squeeze with only 4 total level 9 slots and no rests once getting to the final area. Not hard to overcome with all the other spells the toon would have (and the buggy nature of the final encounter), though.

He'd have to generally use Time Stop + Empowered/Silenced/Normal IGMS, yeah.

Also, the final encounter can be severely broken by a single level 8 spell.  That's all I can say for fear of spoilers.

[MagicalMaster]

Kier1992 wrote...

Unfortunately the camera movement is quite annoying lol.

Oh, don't forget you can push down your mouse wheel and move the camera with that - that's the easiest way to move the camera.

[MrZork]

Wait, I didn't know that! And, what do you mean by "push down your mouse wheel and move the camera with that"?I know that rotating the scroll wheel will zoom the view in and out, but what is supposed to happen when one presses the wheel down? My mouse supports the scroll wheel button, but I haven't used it in NWN. I would be happy to change the camera tilt without using the page up and page down keys.

Actually, I just tested and it doesn't look like holding the pressing the scroll wheel does anything in NWN for me. (Outside of the game, it does things like put the pointer in auto-scroll mode.) Is there a special setting to enable the scroll wheel button in the game?

[MagicalMaster]

Here's a quick video showing what I mean and my current settings as far as I can tell:

[Squatting Monk]

You have to move your mouse while pressing the scroll wheel. It's really convenient, but slow at high resolutions, even with sensitivity settings at max.

[MagicalMaster]

High resolution also makes a lot of the components of the UI tiny - I tend to play on a lower resolution as a result. So maybe that's why I've never had that issue.

[MrZork]

Ah, that is very good to know and will come in handy. I'm glad to still be learning new tricks after all this time. :-)