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Is a MAC version still being considered? Anyone at Bioware?


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Marvin_Arnold

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Bioware has had a long tradition of offering either day-one or "soon-after" Mac ports of their games, especially the Dragon Age franchise.

Official website says, essentially "Not in Fall 2014". (yeah, hope dies last)

Tweet some time ago: "We're thinking about it..."

Sure, there's always portingteam.com for unofficial (yet working) ports, but I'd REALLY love to hear a "Yes/No/Maybe" from Bioware or EA...


TIA, no flames please. :?

Modifié par Marvin_Arnold, 05 septembre 2013 - 04:30 .

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Arialla MacAllister

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I'd like to know the answer to this one myself...

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Last time I heard DICE is working on it, so there's a chance the Mac version will be released soon as well.

A related question to those in the know: why are Frostbite games (and others for that matter) often difficult to port over to Mac?
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TKavatar wrote...

Last time I heard DICE is working on it, so there's a chance the Mac version will be released soon as well.

A related question to those in the know: why are Frostbite games (and others for that matter) often difficult to port over to Mac?


The answer is usually just simply resources vs gain.   Converting a game to use Apple formats and architecture takes time and money to do.    Macs also have very little market share outside of educational institutions as far as computers go.   So if a company doesn't think they will gain enough customers by producing a Mac version of the game to even cover its development costs + all the additional support down the line, then they will usually skip it.  

So its probably not so much that its difficult to do, but the risk that it won't be worth it probably keeps most conversions from happening.
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Navasha wrote...

TKavatar wrote...

Last time I heard DICE is working on it, so there's a chance the Mac version will be released soon as well.

A related question to those in the know: why are Frostbite games (and others for that matter) often difficult to port over to Mac?


The answer is usually just simply resources vs gain.   Converting a game to use Apple formats and architecture takes time and money to do.    Macs also have very little market share outside of educational institutions as far as computers go.   So if a company doesn't think they will gain enough customers by producing a Mac version of the game to even cover its development costs + all the additional support down the line, then they will usually skip it.  

So its probably not so much that its difficult to do, but the risk that it won't be worth it probably keeps most conversions from happening.

Old arguments. My point was, this apparently didn't keep Bioware from providing day-one or almost day-one ports of DA:O and DA2 (not mentioning older games).

(Even the Mass Effect series are playable with community DIY ports. Since Apple turned to Intel CPUs, I have even created ports myself without much prior knowledge. WINE is quite powerful and versatile ideed. And has been used in a modified version for the official ports if DA:O and DA2)


Still hoping for a post from someone at Bioware/EA...

Modifié par Marvin_Arnold, 07 septembre 2013 - 09:18 .


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I don't think their janky emulator would be able to drive FB3, so it's likely they'd have to do an actual port this time.

Mike said they were investigating but didn't have anything to share (though it was quite a while ago). As noted, there was some noise about a year back that DICE was looking to port Frostbite to OS X, so it's certainly possible there will eventually be a Mac version of DA3.

I wouldn't expect to hear anything official until either the port is done or they truly decide not to do one at all.

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Later release on Mac? Curses and curses, Precious!

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Marvin_Arnold wrote...

Bioware has had a long tradition of offering either day-one or "soon-after" Mac ports of their games, especially the Dragon Age franchise.

Official website says, essentially "Not in Fall 2014". (yeah, hope dies last)

Tweet some time ago: "We're thinking about it..."

Sure, there's always portingteam.com for unofficial (yet working) ports, but I'd REALLY love to hear a "Yes/No/Maybe" from Bioware or EA...


TIA, no flames please. :?


Frostbite doesn't work with the Mac OS right now, but DICE is attempting to make a version suitable for Mac. They're going to roll it out on Battlefield and then EA hopes to port their major titles.

Assuming DA:I does moderately well, there should be a port, but it don't be 'soon after.'

On a happier note, once they have a Mac suitable version of Frostbite, all of the games developed with it should be able to port. That means more titles available for Mac, possibly even at the original release date.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 08 septembre 2013 - 04:46 .

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devSin wrote...

I don't think their janky emulator would be able to drive FB3, so it's likely they'd have to do an actual port this time.

Mike said they were investigating but didn't have anything to share (though it was quite a while ago). As noted, there was some noise about a year back that DICE was looking to port Frostbite to OS X, so it's certainly possible there will eventually be a Mac version of DA3.

That's what I had heard, too.

I wouldn't expect to hear anything official until either the port is done or they truly decide not to do one at all.

And that's what I had hoped to find out.

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Nah Mac has nothing to do with gaming

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Eveangaline

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Were there mac versions of the others?

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Eveangaline wrote...

Were there mac versions of the others?



LOL Evangeline, are you just looking for old topics to bring back to life today?

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 I have a picture depicting the proper way to game on a mac.

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i want the old republic on a mac

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KaiserShep

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I wouldn't mind having it available for Mac, though now that Macs can dual boot, it's not as big a deal, save for those either don't want to pay for Windows.

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I'd love a Mac version, but that's basically right. Time was that for gaming, the ONLY option was dual boot with boot camp.

But now, the performance of both Crossover and now Parallels and Fusion are pretty good, they can play a lot of games without making you reboot the machine. The situation is better now than it was in 2009.

BTW, there were Mac versions of both DA1 and DA2. Although they came later than the Windows one, due to porting.
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Plus a lot of Mac users do not wish to even use Windows if they have it. I know I wish I never had to use Windows ever again (personal preference, not starting a debate here). But for things like this (since I had a Mac for years and got frustrated with having to use Windows to play a lot of games regardless), I just made a windows gaming machine. Still use my MacBook Pro for…well…everything else basically.
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Hahahahahaha oh wait you're being serious.

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CybAnt1

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Oh please, not another Mac vs. Windows debate. Can we, for once, avoid one pointless debate on this forum?

I will say, though, I'd love for a Mac version out at the same time as the Windows version. Though that's never happened before, and my guess would be if there's one at all, the port will come out six months or so later.

P.S. I'll be figuring out how to best emulate Windows to run it on day one if they do it that way. Might even go back to the Boot Camp route. It's always the best for running games. I ran DA II that way for a long time.

Love or hate Blizzard's titles, I love that as a company they tend to release the Mac and Windows versions of their games at the same time, and usually on the same disc. (Although in a world where most games are digitally downloaded, that's becoming irrelevant.)

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As I said, I wasn't trying (nor do I like participating in) a debate vs. Mac or Windows. I made a statement that there are some people who don't want to use another operating system out of preference. That simple.

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The systems are certainly common enough these days, much more than there were when either DA:O or 2 were released.

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CybAnt1 wrote...

Love or hate Blizzard's titles, I love that as a company they tend to release the Mac and Windows versions of their games at the same time, and usually on the same disc. (Although in a world where most games are digitally downloaded, that's becoming irrelevant.)

Wasn't always that way. I remember waiting a fair bit for Diablo and StarCraft (I think the LoD expansion was when they started doing simultaneous releases, so it wasn't until 2001 or so). Their discs have always been hybrid (once the Mac version was finished, the next press and all future runs of the PC discs would be hybrid—there has never been a Mac-only disc to my knowledge).

DA2 was a simultaneous release BTW (all discs contain both versions).

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Hmmm. Checking Wikipedia ...

Dragon Age Origins
PC/consoles Nov. 3 2009
Mac version Dec. 21 2009

Dragon Age II
All versions March 8, 2011

You're right. And my memory is backwards. I bought the Windows version of Origins and ran it under Bootcamp. All because I wasn't willing to wait a month and a half for the port (not six months - which BTW, some Mac ports have taken - or longer.)

Well, track record's been good so far Bio ... we Mac users will gladly take another simultaneous release for DA:I, thankyouverymuch.

(Although P.S., as I've said, I do find it interesting, given their market approach/segmentation strategies, why Bioware has never done a Mass Effect release for the Mac, ME1-3, EVER. I guess I do fit the stereotype of Mac gamers. Who knows, I might have gotten into Mass Effect, if they had ever made the effort to also release it for the Mac platform; it was that AND the gameplay that led me to not quite ever get into it.)
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BTW, the DA-Wiki mentions no Mac version.
http://dragonage.wik...ge:_Inquisition

Neither does the "platforms" list at Wikipedia. :o
http://en.wikipedia....ge:_Inquisition

Well, I promised myself not to get worked up at Bioware and be a good loyal soul, but c'mon guys. It's tradition. Do a Mac release. We'll even take a later port. Say something about this that contradicts what's already there. =]

Don't make me buy a new bloody version of Windows to run the game (whether in Bootcamp or Fusion/Parallels) - or maybe I'll keep my fingers crossed for it to work under Crossover Mac. :unsure:

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Yes, I am bummed that no Mac version is planned.  I've played all the previous DA titles on Mac.  I respect economic choices so all I can say is "here's one customer."