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[Merengues 1945]

eluvianix wrote...

Sifr1449 wrote...

Malcolm Hawke is a good example of a heroic Blood Mage, since he was forced into it by the Wardens to contain Corypheus and never used it again for the rest of his life.

It be interesting to see a Blood Mage who uses it for simply pragmatic reasons.

Run out of mana for spells in the heat of battle and just switch to Blood Magic to keep casting, and since Templars cannot dispell Blood Magic like they can Mana, this would allow them to face them with a full arsenal at their fingertips.

Wait, didn't Evangeline dispel a blood mage's magic in Asunder? I thought that Templars could dispel blood magic, but it was just a lot harder to stop. 

And also, while not heroic, I would advocate that Merrill isn't evil. Not by a longshot.

Blood Magic can only be dispelled by the Litany of Adralla... It prevents evil possession, demon summoning and other effects of blood magic... It's no wonder why magisters tried to kill Adralla... Yet the litany can't undo a possession once it's consumated.

Merrill is not evil... Just stupid and arrogant... Her stubborness killed her clan.

There are evil mages that doesn't resort to blood magic.... Morrigan it's evil, selfish, ambitous and much else but doesn't cut deals with demons or blood magic... Her dark arts come from somewhere else, a more powerful place if you take Flemeth's power for an example.

[Biotic Sage]

What about the magistrate's son who is actually just a sociopathic serial killer? Demons or blood magic had nothing to do with the actions he chose to take against young elf girls.

Modifié par Biotic Sage, 06 septembre 2013 - 05:53 .

[Kenny Da Finn]

Biotic Sage wrote...

What about the magistrate's son who is actually just a sociopathic serial killer? Demons or blood magic had nothing to do with the actions he chose to take against young elf girls.

I believe he is reffering directly to mages. I don't believe the magistrate's son was a mage was he?

[Kenny Da Finn]

Merengues 1945 wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

Sifr1449 wrote...

Malcolm Hawke is a good example of a heroic Blood Mage, since he was forced into it by the Wardens to contain Corypheus and never used it again for the rest of his life.

It be interesting to see a Blood Mage who uses it for simply pragmatic reasons.

Run out of mana for spells in the heat of battle and just switch to Blood Magic to keep casting, and since Templars cannot dispell Blood Magic like they can Mana, this would allow them to face them with a full arsenal at their fingertips.

Wait, didn't Evangeline dispel a blood mage's magic in Asunder? I thought that Templars could dispel blood magic, but it was just a lot harder to stop. 

And also, while not heroic, I would advocate that Merrill isn't evil. Not by a longshot.

Blood Magic can only be dispelled by the Litany of Adralla... It prevents evil possession, demon summoning and other effects of blood magic... It's no wonder why magisters tried to kill Adralla... Yet the litany can't undo a possession once it's consumated.

Merrill is not evil... Just stupid and arrogant... Her stubborness killed her clan.

There are evil mages that doesn't resort to blood magic.... Morrigan it's evil, selfish, ambitous and much else but doesn't cut deals with demons or blood magic... Her dark arts come from somewhere else, a more powerful place if you take Flemeth's power for an example.

Morrigan being evil is very subjective. Being selfish and ambitous hardly dictates her being evil and I would like one example of her being clear cut evil.

[AtreiyaN7]

Jowan was a doofus and a bit of a patsy. If he's guilty of anything, it's being naive, stupid, and rather wishy-washy; he's not evil, though.

[Plaintiff]

Kenny Da Finn wrote...

Merengues 1945 wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

Sifr1449 wrote...

Malcolm Hawke is a good example of a heroic Blood Mage, since he was forced into it by the Wardens to contain Corypheus and never used it again for the rest of his life.

It be interesting to see a Blood Mage who uses it for simply pragmatic reasons.

Run out of mana for spells in the heat of battle and just switch to Blood Magic to keep casting, and since Templars cannot dispell Blood Magic like they can Mana, this would allow them to face them with a full arsenal at their fingertips.

Wait, didn't Evangeline dispel a blood mage's magic in Asunder? I thought that Templars could dispel blood magic, but it was just a lot harder to stop. 

And also, while not heroic, I would advocate that Merrill isn't evil. Not by a longshot.

Blood Magic can only be dispelled by the Litany of Adralla... It prevents evil possession, demon summoning and other effects of blood magic... It's no wonder why magisters tried to kill Adralla... Yet the litany can't undo a possession once it's consumated.

Merrill is not evil... Just stupid and arrogant... Her stubborness killed her clan.

There are evil mages that doesn't resort to blood magic.... Morrigan it's evil, selfish, ambitous and much else but doesn't cut deals with demons or blood magic... Her dark arts come from somewhere else, a more powerful place if you take Flemeth's power for an example.

Morrigan being evil is very subjective. Being selfish and ambitous hardly dictates her being evil and I would like one example of her being clear cut evil.

"She called Alistair dumb! Burn her!"

[Kenny Da Finn]

Plaintiff wrote...

Kenny Da Finn wrote...

Merengues 1945 wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

Sifr1449 wrote...

Malcolm Hawke is a good example of a heroic Blood Mage, since he was forced into it by the Wardens to contain Corypheus and never used it again for the rest of his life.

It be interesting to see a Blood Mage who uses it for simply pragmatic reasons.

Run out of mana for spells in the heat of battle and just switch to Blood Magic to keep casting, and since Templars cannot dispell Blood Magic like they can Mana, this would allow them to face them with a full arsenal at their fingertips.

Wait, didn't Evangeline dispel a blood mage's magic in Asunder? I thought that Templars could dispel blood magic, but it was just a lot harder to stop. 

And also, while not heroic, I would advocate that Merrill isn't evil. Not by a longshot.

Blood Magic can only be dispelled by the Litany of Adralla... It prevents evil possession, demon summoning and other effects of blood magic... It's no wonder why magisters tried to kill Adralla... Yet the litany can't undo a possession once it's consumated.

Merrill is not evil... Just stupid and arrogant... Her stubborness killed her clan.

There are evil mages that doesn't resort to blood magic.... Morrigan it's evil, selfish, ambitous and much else but doesn't cut deals with demons or blood magic... Her dark arts come from somewhere else, a more powerful place if you take Flemeth's power for an example.

Morrigan being evil is very subjective. Being selfish and ambitous hardly dictates her being evil and I would like one example of her being clear cut evil.

"She called Alistair dumb! Burn her!"

SHE DID WHAT!? How dare she!

There will be a Inquisition into this horrendous accusation! (Pun Intended)

[Commander Kurt]

I'm not sure this subject has merit when considered carefully. Blood magic is a bigger gun, and evil people very rarely (if ever) say no to bigger guns.

Of course there are reasons to avoid it even if you're evil, but those reasons are actually identical to the reasons not to wield ANY weapon (you put yourself in harms way, basically). There are probably mages all around Thedas kicking puppies and drowning kittens who don't use blood magic, but if your going to do evil that attracts the eye of people of power (be it evil competition or enforcers of good) then you'll use the biggest gun available to you.

It's not even a choice any longer at that point.

[Ananka]

I don't see why an evil mage wouldn't turn to blood magic. It's a great power that's within your reach as a mage if you just take the time to learn it.
I guess it's all about your definition about being evil.  If you by 'evil' mean somebody who is trying to kill people and gain power, then it would be stupid of that person to not use the methods of power within his reach to achieve that goal, especially as the only risk with blood magic is the Chantry unless you need to make deals with demons to learn it.
I don't consider Jowan evil, he's just plain old stupid. Stupid evil could go without blood magic, though.

When it comes to the reverse, that all blood mages would be evil, that's not the case, but I don't think that's what the OP was saying.

Modifié par Annaka, 06 septembre 2013 - 06:45 .

[NorwegianPirate]

Kenny Da Finn wrote...

Morrigan being evil is very subjective. Being selfish and ambitous hardly dictates her being evil and I would like one example of her being clear cut evil.

The fact that she tries to talk you into killing Wynne and several young apprentices when you enter the Circle because the way they exist as mages offends her pride, for one. And she also disapproves of you refusing to accept Caladrius' offer to slaughter a group of elves for a small constitution boost if you kill him afterwards, even if your father and friends are among those elves. I'd characterize that as a bit more than simply selfish and ambitious.

Modifié par NorwegianPirate, 06 septembre 2013 - 07:33 .

[Cutlass Jack]

The correct title of this thread should be:

"Are you a mage? Then you will be a blood mage/abomination the first time something gets remotely difficult in your life."

If Dragon Age has taught us anything, its that it has absolutely nothing to do with good/evil and everything to do with lazy mages.

[Medhia Nox]

@Kenny Da Finn: She's also cruel, manipulative and a liar.

Also - she's a coward as she won't face her mother with you - but that could also be her being manipulative since I think they're working together (or are somehow the same being).

Don't really care if someone calls her "evil". Not even sure what people mean when they say that word anymore - and I'm pretty sure most people don't have any idea what they mean either.