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[ArtemisMoons]

Jaulen wrote...

^ This for me is also more important that a playable origin story.

I'm really really hoping that the choice of class/race has a significant impact on (potential for stats to influence):
1) how NPCs react to you.....do you have to use force or have a high coersion ability to get them to go along with you? (Like if you are an elf or Quanri....would probably be harder work to get human groups to cooperate with you)

2) impacts how your companions/agents will interact with you....will you have a chance to work with them and have them overcome biases....or will you be forceful with them...or potentially get to a point that you have to murder-knife them? Or have them try to murder knife you?

3) have certain quests be shut off due to race and/or class

4) Have insults thrown at you by NPCs.....like if you're an elf and wandering around a city and some random bystander calls out to you 'knife-ears'....

So many more interesting (and replayable!) possibilities than a playable origin....

I definitely want things like these to happen. lol. 
We got a taste of reactivity in DA:O (like in Ostagar, the quatermaster thought you were another serving elf), but I want it to really matter. lol

Modifié par ArtemisMoons, 05 septembre 2013 - 11:37 .

[Taleroth]

Jaulen wrote...

I think it's being assumed that the elf mage is Dalish since a city elf mage would be a circle-mage and apostate already.

That seems a baseless reason for such an assumption. The city elf is in the exact same situation as the human. Does that mean humans are unlikely to be mages? Or perhaps that being a circle-mage is a-okay.

Modifié par Taleroth, 05 septembre 2013 - 09:54 .

[JWvonGoethe]

I hope it's different to the way DA:O did it, which was:

One Origin/background for mages.
Five shared Origins/backgrounds for warriors and rogues.

Which meant that mages seemed to draw the short straw on this.

Playing as, say, a Qunari mage shouldn't force the player to have to go with the standard mage background and miss out on the standard Qunari background. There should be more options for mages: having a single standard background for mages such as a Circle Tower apprentice is fine, but we should also be able to make our mages share at least a couple of the backgrounds that are available to warriors and rogues.

Eg. Being able to play the Dalish background in DA:O as a mage would have worked fine (with a few tweaks to dialogue and cinematics).

Modifié par JWvonGoethe, 05 septembre 2013 - 10:06 .

[Potato Cat]

Mykel54 wrote...

Can anyone link to a dev quote saying that the elf mage pc can be dalish? Because this rumour is making the rounds but i have yet to see anything official.

Myself i stick with the pessimist prediction that there will be 4 backgrounds: qunari, elf, dwarf and human. Bioware said that your race would make the background, but nothing about each class combination having it´s own backstory. Maybe the mages would get their own, but i doubt the rest do.

From the PAX Q&A thread:


Dunvi wrote...

Bonte15 wrote...
Anything specific about the races? (Dwarves)

Racial abilities: "We're investigating". 
BTW you can be a dalish mage

[KnightXE]

I hope I can be a noble warrior.

[Mykel54]

Elfman wrote...

Mykel54 wrote...

Can anyone link to a dev quote saying that the elf mage pc can be dalish? Because this rumour is making the rounds but i have yet to see anything official.

Myself i stick with the pessimist prediction that there will be 4 backgrounds: qunari, elf, dwarf and human. Bioware said that your race would make the background, but nothing about each class combination having it´s own backstory. Maybe the mages would get their own, but i doubt the rest do.

From the PAX Q&A thread:


Dunvi wrote...

Bonte15 wrote...
Anything specific about the races? (Dwarves)

Racial abilities: "We're investigating". 
BTW you can be a dalish mage

All right, i found the post you refered to: http://social.biowar...0449/3#17250707

If you continue reading, this is what Dunvi answers later

I have not gotten a good answer
on this (but I have asked) but it sounds a little like there are
definitely 1 background per race, and they are looking into making
"mage" its own background... I was not able to get a good answer about,
say, dalish elves vs. city elves - I did not hear anything that sounded
good for more than 1 background per race.

http://social.bioware.com/forums/forum/1/topic/371/index/17250449/3#17250774

But then a a few pages later again Dunvi says that dalish are in

Stella-Arc wrote...

I'm want to know if we can be a dalish mage.

explicitly, yes

http://social.bioware.com/forums/forum/1/topic/371/index/17250449/6#17251684

And then it is confirmed by Pseudocognition, which also was at PAX

"the elf mage can be dalish" is the gist of all they said. No details beyond that.

http://social.bioware.com/forums/forum/1/topic/371/index/17250449/10#17263177

So in short we have two persons who went to PAX and recorded the devs saying "the elf mage can be dalish". I think that is proof enough, so i rectify and say i was wrong to think it was a rumour without basis. Well i am happy to be wrong:P

If anyone needs proof about this too, feel free to link to this post.

[KnightXE]

I'm definitely going to play as a Dalish elf mage in one of my playthroughs, since we haven't had a chance to do that yet.

[In Exile]

I can only hope that the elf mage can be Dalish does not force us to be Dalish to be an Elf. I'm happy to give the opportunity for players to be Dalish with at least one class - even two classes - as long as my elf character can be a CE.

[DatOneFanboy]

1 Background Per Race would make me not Buy my first Bioware game, thats when u go over the line

[KnightXE]

for an elf warrior, I'd like to be able to choose between Dalish or City Elf.

[The Elder King]

In Exile wrote...

I can only hope that the elf mage can be Dalish does not force us to be Dalish to be an Elf. I'm happy to give the opportunity for players to be Dalish with at least one class - even two classes - as long as my elf character can be a CE.

If their intention is to make two different backgrounds for each race with mages (which seems likely to me), I think that the warrior/rogue elf will be a CE.

[Mykel54]

hhh89 wrote...

In Exile wrote...

I can only hope that the elf mage can be Dalish does not force us to be Dalish to be an Elf. I'm happy to give the opportunity for players to be Dalish with at least one class - even two classes - as long as my elf character can be a CE.

If their intention is to make two different backgrounds for each race with mages (which seems likely to me), I think that the warrior/rogue elf will be a CE.

That would make sense, it seems like a reasonable way to get a few more variety in without going full race/class background combo, which looks overkill.

A first draft of it could look like this:

- Dwarf Warrior/Rogue (Surfacer)

- Human Warrior/Rogue (Noble)
- Human Mage (Former Circle Mage)

- Elf Warrior/Rogue (City Elf)
- Elf Mage (Dalish)

- Qunari Warrior/Rogue/Mage (Tal-Vashoth all?)

Something like this would be a similar number to DAO origins (6), so it has a decent chance of being in, at least more than the unique race/class combo for everything.

[Mecha Elf]

Ugh bioware please have a bard background it seems appropriate considering what country were in and that well be playing with politics and nobles!

[Gill Kaiser]

DatOneFanboy wrote...

1 Background Per Race would make me not Buy my first Bioware game, thats when u go over the line

... seriously?

[Spectre slayer]

BACKGROUNDS

Each race has a background, but not multiple blurbs of background. We can see a similarity to Shepard, where he comes from a specific past that may be drawn out within the course of Inquisition.

The devs are investigating different background tracks; some surnames are already released, where some like the Cadash have history (Shale’s family name) and some will make history by the time Inquisition ends.
However, these backgrounds will not shape your character. Inquisition and your decisions will define you. Where you come from will not be as significant as the choices you make.-Ashe

There won’t be different origins, but all races will have their own unique pros and cons that can affect both gameplay and story. To be honest, I was fine with just humans but I know many others were extremely disappointed by the human only Dragon Age II.- Forbes

Even so, no, there's no point in going over the backgrounds. What we have planned for the races has way more content, anyhow.-Gaider 

Background =/= Orgins in DAI

Your background is mixed up with the racial+class+speculation and there's only one origin story according to GI cover story and bioware I have an screen shot I can post.

Modifié par Spectre slayer, 06 septembre 2013 - 12:30 .

[DarthLaxian]

Dycho wrote...

 This is more of a question really, I know we have nothing as of right now but do we know if we are only getting 1 per race? (Mage gets their own, can assume Qunari Mages will still be Qunari Origin). I want there to be more then 1 per race, but I won't be totally heartbroken if this is the case.  I just wanted to know from devs or fans who have seen it be brought up again.  Does multiple origins mean more then 1 per or more then just one choice per race?

agreed - with there being a year of time left (at the very least, they can still move the release date IMHO), i think they should gather up all the material they have on the planed background-stories for the human only PC and use them (maybe in a limited form, as the other races would need some, too) and maybe go back to DA:O (there is probably still unused material left - they surely had more origin stories written up and only used the ones they thought best!

so yes - they don't need to be playable like in DA:O (it would be a nice touch though and i would just love that!) but each of those backgrounds should at least give one larger quest-chain in-game to show what you chose etc.

greetings LAX

[Eterna]

DatOneFanboy wrote...

1 Background Per Race would make me not Buy my first Bioware game, thats when u go over the line

Are you.... serious?

[Airell]

youtu.be/Yise6U5VFN8 Dragon age will use the same background creator as mass effect

Modifié par Airell, 07 septembre 2013 - 05:15 .

[Airell]

so you will have three backgrounds to choose from

[Spectre slayer]

Not exactly what she meant is posted in my previous post taken from her main site, all she's saying is that it will be closer to the mass effect style backgrounds where they have little to no barring on the story and she also mentioned the Dwarven Caddash background that some one here found.

Race surnames (if they're fixed surnames) from video part 2:

Human - Trevelyan

Elf - Lavellan

Dwarf - Cadash

Qunari - Adaa

Essentially they are only your past history and your character is a blank slate with a pre set single origin and you will build your legend over the course of the game which would be closer to the warden rather than Hawke.

Modifié par Spectre slayer, 07 septembre 2013 - 07:10 .

[Maria Caliban]

Eterna5 wrote...

DatOneFanboy wrote...

1 Background Per Race would make me not Buy my first Bioware game, thats when u go over the line

Are you.... serious?

No, he is not serious.

[fiveforchaos]

Mecha Elf wrote...

Ugh bioware please have a bard background it seems appropriate considering what country were in and that well be playing with politics and nobles!

I would love this. My Warden was a Bard and Bard is my third choice for specialization next game if ranger and explosives expert aren't there.

[Eveangaline]

Eh. It's basically like if you played human in origins. One background for mages one for none mages. Only now every race is like that.

[Statare]

The only thing they've been explicitly clear on is that the race system is replacing the background system they had when they were only doing human (the spy, the mercenary, the chevalier, the apostate, the convict, the apprentice). Also, that each race has 1 background, but mage may be its own. All the background is is like, how did you get to where the game starts? How will people react to you for the first segment of the game before you make serious choices?

Then you have the statements that you can be a Dalish mage so that means there are at least 2 mage options (1 non-elf, 1 elf).

The best speculations I have heard is to try and guess from the last names/the original backgrounds what race/class combination will be what flavor. These were speculated, and I am sure the backgrounds could be surprising:

The Spy: unlikely as warrior/rogues will likely share a background, could evolve into an elf warrior/rogue background. If we can make a City Elf, we may be able to fill the Zevran/Tallis role.
The Mercenary: from what we know of the Qunari, you could be one.
The Chevalier: may no longer exist as a rogue/warrior shares one background, but the Human warrior/rogue option could be a noble to keep the flavor of this background.
The Apostate: if you are a dalish mage you are one, probably qunari as well.
The Convict: could evolve into the surfacer/dwarf background (an exile is a kind of convict).
The Apprentice: human mage so as to keep both the outsider-looking-in-background of the apostate (elf) and the insider who can be pro-circle or anti-circle (human).

We don't know, but evolving the backgrounds that were already in story into the race/class combos makes more sense (to me) than eliminating original work/concepts.