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[Sol Downer]

Archaven wrote...

You know with the trailer.. It some how gives me a feeling that the Inquisitor is the OGB.

You're kidding, right? Human/Human, Human/Dwarf, and Human/Elf do not equal Qunari...the new playable race.

[Angrywolves]

Of course the Inquisitor isn't OGB. Certainly I never thought he was, from the trailer or anything else .
Someone's wishful thinking.

[Razored1313]

i wonder if her non-OGB kid could factor into the story, considering she confrimed in witch hunt she had the wardens son without the dark ritual if you slept with her at least once

[Spectre slayer]

froogle345 wrote...

i wonder if her non-OGB kid could factor into the story, considering she confrimed in witch hunt she had the wardens son without the dark ritual if you slept with her at least once

Sigh the child of unknown gender is only possible in the ultimate sacrifice ending and has nothing to do with witch hunt at all infant her epilogue says she headed west into the frostback mountains also the witch hunt isn't really supposed to be played if you did the Ulltimate Sacrifice ending.

As for the OGB it's a 10-13 year old gender locked Male, that doesn't exist in their Canon, doesn't exist in many players games and it was always supposed to be a new protagonist which all mean the ogb has a 0% chance of being a protagonist, antagonist, companion and probably won't have a huge role and maybe they should just tie the loose end or kill it off in the beginning of the game.

[Razored1313]

Spectre slayer wrote...

froogle345 wrote...

i wonder if her non-OGB kid could factor into the story, considering she confrimed in witch hunt she had the wardens son without the dark ritual if you slept with her at least once

Sigh the child of unknown gender is only possible in the ultimate sacrifice ending and has nothing to do with witch hunt at all infant her epilogue says she headed west into the frostback mountains also the witch hunt isn't really supposed to be played if you did the Ulltimate Sacrifice ending.

As for the OGB it's a 10-13 year old gender locked Male, that doesn't exist in their Canon, doesn't exist in many players games and it was always supposed to be a new protagonist which all mean the ogb has a 0% chance of being a protagonist, antagonist, companion and probably won't have a huge role and maybe they should just tie the loose end or kill it off in the beginning of the game.

...loghain did the ultimate sacrifice in my game so it made perfect sense for my warden to go into witch hunt.  and my warden specifically mentions that she has his child  to arianni in the beginning and when you confront her at the end you can ask where it is. also in the end when the warden asks about his child the child is always referred to as HE. 

[Spectre slayer]

froogle345 wrote...

Spectre slayer wrote...

froogle345 wrote...

i wonder if her non-OGB kid could factor into the story, considering she confrimed in witch hunt she had the wardens son without the dark ritual if you slept with her at least once

Sigh the child of unknown gender is only possible in the ultimate sacrifice ending and has nothing to do with witch hunt at all infant her epilogue says she headed west into the frostback mountains also the witch hunt isn't really supposed to be played if you did the Ulltimate Sacrifice ending.

As for the OGB it's a 10-13 year old gender locked Male, that doesn't exist in their Canon, doesn't exist in many players games and it was always supposed to be a new protagonist which all mean the ogb has a 0% chance of being a protagonist, antagonist, companion and probably won't have a huge role and maybe they should just tie the loose end or kill it off in the beginning of the game.

...loghain did the ultimate sacrifice in my game so it made perfect sense for my warden to go into witch hunt.  and my warden specifically mentions that she has his child  to arianni in the beginning and when you confront her at the end you can ask where it is. also in the end when the warden asks about his child the child is always referred to as HE. 

That's not what I'm talking about it has nothing to do with who took the final blow it has to do with the fact you didn't do the ritual meaning the ogb doesn't exist which makes the story of witch hunt pointless, you basically created a logic problem for yourself similar if you were to import a dead warden to awakening.

What Morrigan is referring to is the old god baby who is revealed to be Male which is exactly what you're talking about, they never gave a gender to her normal child.

[Razored1313]

Spectre slayer wrote...

froogle345 wrote...

Spectre slayer wrote...

froogle345 wrote...

i wonder if her non-OGB kid could factor into the story, considering she confrimed in witch hunt she had the wardens son without the dark ritual if you slept with her at least once

Sigh the child of unknown gender is only possible in the ultimate sacrifice ending and has nothing to do with witch hunt at all infant her epilogue says she headed west into the frostback mountains also the witch hunt isn't really supposed to be played if you did the Ulltimate Sacrifice ending.

As for the OGB it's a 10-13 year old gender locked Male, that doesn't exist in their Canon, doesn't exist in many players games and it was always supposed to be a new protagonist which all mean the ogb has a 0% chance of being a protagonist, antagonist, companion and probably won't have a huge role and maybe they should just tie the loose end or kill it off in the beginning of the game.

...loghain did the ultimate sacrifice in my game so it made perfect sense for my warden to go into witch hunt.  and my warden specifically mentions that she has his child  to arianni in the beginning and when you confront her at the end you can ask where it is. also in the end when the warden asks about his child the child is always referred to as HE. 

That's not what I'm talking about it has nothing to do with who took the final blow it has to do with the fact you didn't do the ritual meaning the ogb doesn't exist which makes the story of witch hunt pointless, you basically created a logic problem for yourself similar if you were to import a dead warden to awakening.

What Morrigan is referring to is the old god baby who is revealed to be Male which is exactly what you're talking about, they never gave a gender to her normal child.

uh no i didn't i have made many wardens and some male ones who have never slept with her or did the ritual and all the ones who didn't die went through witch hunt without mention of a child. this was a recognized choice and in no way a logic problem. its simply that the kid is male and...well as normal as a half-dwarven kid can be with morrigan as a mom 

[Angrywolves]

Obviously slayer doesn't like OGB.
People who didn't do the ritual shouldn't concern themselves since OGB won't show up in their DAI games.

[Xenomorphine]

After having looked up a few videos, I'll revise my previous comments.

She mentioned that the child is "beyond your reach," but not with whom or where. I used to think this implied it was with some kind of adopted family, but looking at the quote after all of this time, especially considering where she goes, it sounds more like it's being raised somewhere in the Fade... Which might have some interesting consequences, considering the new story is all about the Fade merging with physical reality.

She doesn't mention whether she's been personally raising it, however (at least, not in any videos I could find). Just that her duty is now to "prepare" it for what's to come (which could just as easily be done from afar or assigning spiritual guardians) - and that she'll be most in need of time and power in order to do that.

I'm guessing, however, that if Morrigan's going to gain power, it'll involve a lot of personal adventuring quests and undertakings. Not the kind of things you can really do by stopping at home and being motherly. Some of her first advice at Lothering is to not bother wasting time gathering allies and to simply deal with your main enemy as soon as physically possible. She's not exactly the personality type to sit waiting around!

Modifié par Xenomorphine, 07 septembre 2013 - 09:57 .

[Razored1313]

Angrywolves wrote...

Obviously slayer doesn't like OGB.
People who didn't do the ritual shouldn't concern themselves since OGB won't show up in their DAI games.

i know lol but i am wondering if the 'regular' child will show up

[Angrywolves]

I guess some players believe if the warden didn't do the dark ritual but did sleep with Morrigan earlier that she still becomes pregnant , just with a " normal " child..
Well Mr Gaider will have to explain that to us.
If the normal child version is true, I don't see how Bioware can include it unless as an easter egg at some point.
If it did show up it could only be in the DAI games of players who did not do the DR.
Since I always do the DR I will never see it.

[Spectre slayer]

Don't assume things no you're wrong here this will make things clear.

IV. Morrigan: Ask your questions then, since you have traveled so far.
1. Tell me where the child is. (if romance was active and/or Dark Ritual was performed)
Morrigan: He is safe, and beyond your reach. All you need know is that the child is an innocent. He knows nothing of the destiny that lies before him. (return, adding following option:)

That’s not good enough. (option disappears if not chosen)
Morrigan: Because the child is yours? I understand. I will not share my plan with you. If your trust is insufficient, then your anger will have to do. (if romance was active) (returns)

If you refuse the dark ritual and then import your character into witch hunt you basically create a logic problem like this no ritual=no God baby + witch hunt = OGB, the whole reason we know that the old God baby is Male is because of witch hunt.

Modifié par Spectre slayer, 08 septembre 2013 - 03:25 .

[Razored1313]

Spectre slayer wrote...

Don't assume things no you're wrong here this will make things clear.

IV. Morrigan: Ask your questions then, since you have traveled so far.
1. Tell me where the child is. (if romance was active and/or Dark Ritual was performed)
Morrigan: He is safe, and beyond your reach. All you need know is that the child is an innocent. He knows nothing of the destiny that lies before him. (return, adding following option:)

That’s not good enough. (option disappears if not chosen)
Morrigan: Because the child is yours? I understand. I will not share my plan with you. If your trust is insufficient, then your anger will have to do. (if romance was active) (returns)

If you refuse the dark ritual and then import your character into witch hunt you basically create a logic problem like this no ritual=no God baby + witch hunt = OGB, the whole reason we know that the old God baby is Male is because of witch hunt.

if i understand you correctly you are saying that ANY import into witch hunt is a logic problem if you did not do the dark ritual, is that what your saying? or only my particular situation? because i know for a fact your wrong if you mean the former because morrigan has specific dialogue saying that i denied her the ritual when i ask her what she planned with a warden not romantically linked to her. idk you could br right about my particular issue and even if you are the point still stands, because afaik bioware has not retconned the fact that she was still pregnant and i am curious if the child will appear is all.

[Spectre slayer]

froogle345 wrote...

Spectre slayer wrote...

Don't assume things no you're wrong here this will make things clear.

IV. Morrigan: Ask your questions then, since you have traveled so far.
1. Tell me where the child is. (if romance was active and/or Dark Ritual was performed)
Morrigan: He is safe, and beyond your reach. All you need know is that the child is an innocent. He knows nothing of the destiny that lies before him. (return, adding following option:)

That’s not good enough. (option disappears if not chosen)
Morrigan: Because the child is yours? I understand. I will not share my plan with you. If your trust is insufficient, then your anger will have to do. (if romance was active) (returns)

If you refuse the dark ritual and then import your character into witch hunt you basically create a logic problem like this no ritual=no God baby + witch hunt = OGB, the whole reason we know that the old God baby is Male is because of witch hunt.

if i understand you correctly you are saying that ANY import into witch hunt is a logic problem if you did not do the dark ritual, is that what your saying? or only my particular situation? because i know for a fact your wrong if you mean the former because morrigan has specific dialogue saying that i denied her the ritual when i ask her what she planned with a warden not romantically linked to her. idk you could br right about my particular issue and even if you are the point still stands, because afaik bioware has not retconned the fact that she was still pregnant and i am curious if the child will appear is all.

Yes what I'm talking about is if you or anyone did the ultimate sacrifice then imported that into witch hunt it will assume that the child is male she specially calls the child he depending on what dialogue you choose in every dialogue.

As for the child she has without the ritual we really don't know much of anything about he or she only that it's only possible if you refuse the ritual, romanced and slept with and Yes it could be possible they show up or have a role.

If The Warden was in a romance with her and refused to take part in the ritual, Morrigan is last seen traveling west through the Frostback Mountains, possibly with child, and it's been rumored she once was the lover of The Warden himself. 

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Modifié par Spectre slayer, 08 septembre 2013 - 07:07 .

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Spectre slayer wrote...

froogle345 wrote...

Spectre slayer wrote...

Don't assume things no you're wrong here this will make things clear.

IV. Morrigan: Ask your questions then, since you have traveled so far.
1. Tell me where the child is. (if romance was active and/or Dark Ritual was performed)
Morrigan: He is safe, and beyond your reach. All you need know is that the child is an innocent. He knows nothing of the destiny that lies before him. (return, adding following option:)

That’s not good enough. (option disappears if not chosen)
Morrigan: Because the child is yours? I understand. I will not share my plan with you. If your trust is insufficient, then your anger will have to do. (if romance was active) (returns)

If you refuse the dark ritual and then import your character into witch hunt you basically create a logic problem like this no ritual=no God baby + witch hunt = OGB, the whole reason we know that the old God baby is Male is because of witch hunt.

if i understand you correctly you are saying that ANY import into witch hunt is a logic problem if you did not do the dark ritual, is that what your saying? or only my particular situation? because i know for a fact your wrong if you mean the former because morrigan has specific dialogue saying that i denied her the ritual when i ask her what she planned with a warden not romantically linked to her. idk you could br right about my particular issue and even if you are the point still stands, because afaik bioware has not retconned the fact that she was still pregnant and i am curious if the child will appear is all.

Yes what I'm talking about is if you or anyone did the ultimate sacrifice then imported that into witch hunt it will assume you did the ritual and she specially calls the child he depending on what dialogue you choose.

As for the child she has without the ritual we really don't know much of anything about he or she only that it's only possible if you refuse the ritual, romanced and slept with and Yes it could be possible they show up or have a role.

If The Warden was in a romance with her and refused to take part in the ritual, Morrigan is last seen traveling west through the Frostback Mountains, possibly with child, and it's been rumored she once was the lover of The Warden himself. 

Did you have any problems with importing your DAO to DA2 on those occasions

no issues importing for me everything went off it said i let morrigan go through the eluvian without any inconsitencies i noticed, but like i siad i had specific dialogue where she said that she would not reveal her plans to me because i denied her at redcliffe, and then commended me on surviving without the ritual. it definetly does not automatically assume you did the DR if you did witch hunt, but i think we derailed this thread long enough  sorry folks please return to your OGB discussion:)