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[DarkKnightHolmes]

AresKeith wrote...

berelinde wrote...

If you made her queen, I'm sure you'll see her again, just as I'm sure you'll see Alistair again if you made him king. If you left her in the dungeon, dunno. Maybe she's still there, or maybe she's managed to escape and is currently leading a rebellion against Alistair. The big question there would be whether she was able to win enough support from the banns to make that happen. She pretty much ran the kingdom under Cailan, but the people didn't love her for it.

Maybe Alistair lets her out and they make amends 

[GreyLycanTrope]

I would like to see her again, no idea how that would work though. Even when I hook her up with Alistair he largely takes over any interaction I have with Royalty afterwards.

[VampireSoap]

Why do you want to see an aged Anora? Better keep the younger image of a chick in our minds than pick up a phone and call her 5th husband's house to see how she's doing...

[franciscoamell]

VampireSoap wrote...

Why do you want to see an aged Anora? Better keep the younger image of a chick in our minds than pick up a phone and call her 5th husband's house to see how she's doing...

She's a cougar now.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

I want to see how her head has been doing on that pike.

[mousestalker]

Some fans wanted more Anora:
"Without her, the game would be a snorer"
The game being in production
Others made a flip deduction
In or out, they really abhorred her.

[Gold Dragon]

She's dead in all my playthroughs.


Alistair has her executed. (Always Hardened.  Canonically for me, Either Ultimate Sacrifice (City Elf) or Dark Ritual (all others) is taken.  I used the cheatmode to get Alistair & Loghain's Sacrifices before using US on a City Elf playthru.)

Also, Drunken Alistair is recalled to Fereldan during the Events of DA2 if he were banished in Origins.  The Banishment was on pain of death for life.  Could mean that Queen Anora died about 7-8 years after the events of Origins....

Or else maybe about to be made the father or Anora's firstborn?  If She is queen alone, the upper nobilty of Fereldan harp on her about her childlessness.

[xBelzerger]

I'd like to see her again, even though she's not on the throne in my "canon" save (sorry anora, you're great but my warden have to dislike you for rp purpose ) I still doubt she's dead as I don't really see Alistair, even hardened, killing her like that. And if she's alive I can easily picture her having a huge grudge on the king over her stolen title, and I really want to see where that could lead in Inquisition. (Rebellion substory ?)

[TheBlackAdder13]

Love me some Anora. I'm hoping to have some sort of interaction with her in DA:I. If we get to see King Alistair in DA:I but not Queen Anora, I'll be extremely irritated.

[Silfren]

berelinde wrote...

If you made her queen, I'm sure you'll see her again, just as I'm sure you'll see Alistair again if you made him king. If you left her in the dungeon, dunno. Maybe she's still there, or maybe she's managed to escape and is currently leading a rebellion against Alistair. The big question there would be whether she was able to win enough support from the banns to make that happen. She pretty much ran the kingdom under Cailan, but the people didn't love her for it.

They did actually.  The game lore makes it clear that Anora was understood by the nobility (and the people too, I think) as the true ruler of Ferelden, and widely regarded as very good at it.

Where are you getting that the people didn't like her?  Actually she's clearly shown to be quite popular.  I don't recall even a vague hint of disapproval of Anora anywhere in the game, aside from Arl Eamon himself, and that hardly counts, given he himself acknowledges Anora's popularity and capability and makes clear his primary interest in Alistair is the Theirin bloodline.

[Silfren]

MasterScribe wrote...
Alistair is king in the comics, despite being dead in X% of people's personal game canon.

There is no version of Anora's fate in which she is known to be dead, so a retcon (her being the queen of Ferelden) would be less difficult to place into the default/main canon.

Given the timeline, she could have become the monarch of Ferelden under every possible DAO and DA2 scenario.

That Alistair is King in the comics is irrelevant; it is not a retcon of anything.

[PsychoticFox]

I'd rather not see her again; I was never particularly fond of her.

[Urazz]

I would be interested in seeing her again. Especially since I had a hardened Alistair and her marry and would like to see how things turned out with them and Fereldan.

[DragonMage95]

YES! I loved Anora.I hope we get to see her, I wonder what she'll look like on FB3. I'm doing another playthrough right now to be her consort.

[Plaintiff]

Anora should be a party member. Her special ability will be blundering into obvious traps and sending her maid back for help.

[Silfren]

Plaintiff wrote...

Anora should be a party member. Her special ability will be blundering into obvious traps and sending her maid back for help.

Sadly, this is one of my biggest disappointments in the writing of Origins.  Otherwise, Anora is shown to be an intelligent and shrewd politician.  We're meant to see her this way, I'm convinced: to see that yes, she IS interested in maintaining her power for selfish reasons--she LIKES being the ruler of Ferelden, but that this doesn't make her a villain--she actually is GOOD at the job, to boot. 

So that whole questline with her totally f*cks an otherwise well-written character.

[Archaven]

I like to see her again but not as party character. I want more new unique party characters with different personalities!

[Plaintiff]

Silfren wrote...
Sadly, this is one of my biggest disappointments in the writing of Origins.  Otherwise, Anora is shown to be an intelligent and shrewd politician.

I think you've seen me post about Anora enough times to know I disagree on this front.  

We're meant to see her this way, I'm convinced: to see that yes, she IS interested in maintaining her power for selfish reasons--she LIKES being the ruler of Ferelden, but that this doesn't make her a villain--she actually is GOOD at the job, to boot.

So that whole questline with her totally f*cks an otherwise well-written character.

I'm sure that is exactly what Bioware intended, but there are multiple reasons that it doesn't come off for me, not just the fact that she gets herself captured. Anora declares herself to be intelligent, other people say she is intelligent, but I don't ever see her behave in a way that I would characterise as intelligent.

For me to accept Anora as a "good ruler" or a "strong woman", or any of the things that her advocates say she is, I would need to see, with my own eyes, a lot more than what we're actually shown. I don't see a shrewd politician, I see a woman with a transparent lack of integrity who relies on others to do her dirty work, and will then short-sightedly burn bridges when she perceives that those individuals are no longer immediatly useful.

[Silfren]

Plaintiff wrote...

Silfren wrote...
Sadly, this is one of my biggest disappointments in the writing of Origins.  Otherwise, Anora is shown to be an intelligent and shrewd politician.

I think you've seen me post about Anora enough times to know I disagree on this front.  

We're meant to see her this way, I'm convinced: to see that yes, she IS interested in maintaining her power for selfish reasons--she LIKES being the ruler of Ferelden, but that this doesn't make her a villain--she actually is GOOD at the job, to boot.

So that whole questline with her totally f*cks an otherwise well-written character.

I'm sure that is exactly what Bioware intended, but there are multiple reasons that it doesn't come off for me, not just the fact that she gets herself captured. Anora declares herself to be intelligent, other people say she is intelligent, but I don't ever see her behave in a way that I would characterise as intelligent.

For me to accept Anora as a "good ruler" or a "strong woman", or any of the things that her advocates say she is, I would need to see, with my own eyes, a lot more than what we're actually shown. I don't see a shrewd politician, I see a woman with a transparent lack of integrity who relies on others to do her dirty work, and will then short-sightedly burn bridges when she perceives that those individuals are no longer immediatly useful.

I don't think we disagree all that much.  I maintain that Anora was intended to be seen as strong and capable and intelligent but I think the writing fails to actually convey this.  I don't get a lot of the "OMG  I  HATE  THAT  POWERHUNGRY  B*TCH" but I do see your own point that her actions don't really make sense in light of her allegedly being a capable ruler.

Beyond the Landsmeet itself, I've always wondered why Anora so readily handed the reins over to Loghain and let him have his way.  If she was actually managing Ferelden for the past five years, if unofficially so, and was good at it, and her capability was respected by the nobility, why was it suddenly necessary for Loghain to become the regent? And if it was necessary at first, okay, but why did Anora continue to let Loghain run Ferelden into the ground even when we see from cutscenes that she eventually saw that his handling of the situation was not going well?

You get the sense that the writers didn't have the time to create the setup they needed for the story we ultimately get (Loghain being at the helm of Ferelden's political strife) and to also maintain the writing of the other characters as believable within that context.

I have similar issues with the handling of Bhelen and Harrowmont, really.  I think that we're meant to see situations and people whose personalities and motives are morally ambiguous enough to make our decisions difficult, but that the writing itself just fails to convey things per the writers' intention.  

[Rawgrim]

I`d say she is more manipulative an opportunistic than intelligent.

[Battlebloodmage]

She was queen in a lot of my files, so I do hope to see her again. She's a very good character because people love to hate her. It's better to have a polarized character than a character who gets no reaction.

[Ryzaki]

Sure she and hardened Alistair are married to each other in my game so I wonder how that turned out.

[AresKeith]

Ryzaki wrote...

Sure she and hardened Alistair are married to each other in my game so I wonder how that turned out.

The epilogue says they're beloved