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[Pasquale1234]

Starsyn wrote...
She also seemed like a backbiter; she claims to be against her father, unless you refuse to offer your support.  Then she turns on a dime, and will hang you out to dry.

Have you come across a situation where she actually betrays an agreement she made with you?  I certainly haven't.  Yes, she has an agenda, but IME she also keeps any agreement you made with her.

I always put Anora on the throne, with or without Alistair, as I think she makes a fairly good ruler.

If anyone's interested in Gaider's thoughts on controversies over Anora, he's posted some here.

[Augustei]

Gregolian wrote...

Anora reminds me too much of Cersei. If she appears I hope Alistair has put a leash on her.

Yeah except one is politically competent (Anora) while the other one is a bloody fool (Cersei) lol.

[otis0310]

Anora is amaster manipulator and will do anything to get power.

However she always end up winning because I will not let Loghain be a Gray Warden, he does not deserve it. Alistair will always sacrifice himself to save me if my affection is high enough, even with no romance. (Although that might be the dialogue patch I have that does that). The only way I can stop Alistair is to not bring him along, but he is far too good of tank to leave behind...

So Anora always ends up winning.

Not to mention, I think she makes a good point when she says Alistair would be a bad king.

You tell her that Arl Eamon will help him out when he is king, she says.

"And he will need it, because everyone knows he can't hold the throne on his own."

You ask Alistair if Anora should be queen, he says.

"I don't know. Maybe? She seems to want it....."

(approximate quotes)

Put those two together and I think Anora has made her case.

[Spectre slayer]

Angrywolves wrote...

Spaghetti_Ninja wrote...
We will never see her again, just like 99% of the DAO characters. The sooner you accept this, the better. This type of discussion belongs on the DAO board.

and you know this how ?
Mostly married to Alistair although I have one where my male Cousland married  her.
There's a concept art that some players think is an updated Redcliff.If so, we're going to Ferelden.

They don't know that, it's probably just another person who doesn't want any old character's back and probably thinks we won't spend to much time in Fereldan, or won't have to deal with the monarchs there.

Which is all wrong first off if Alistair is dead or not King than Anora will be the sole Ruler of Fereldan which was confirmed by Laidlaw.

@kunikos Nah. If Alistair’s dead and Anora’s queen, we can support that in sequels.11:07am - 20 Oct 13

https://mobile.twitter.com/Mike_Laidlaw/status/391943823141527553

Laidlaw also confirmed that a majority of events will take place there and in Orlias, this doesn't rule any other nations out or anything like that because they've been pretty consistent in stating otherwise and that we'll be going to many different nations, and yes the most likely theory that it was defiantly Red Clife.

@piotrbugryn The majority of the events happen in Ferelden and Orlais.11:56am - 17 Aug 13

 
https://mobile.twitt...763326588653568

A lot of the devs including Laidlaw, Perry and Lee have already stressed this point that i'm going to state, which is there is going to be a significant returning cast from both game's. If they are vital to the story and game than they wil have role beyond a cameo but if not than a cameo role they will get.

The party you assemble over the course of the game will include, according to Lee, “a significant returning cast.” In the demonstration, the Inquisitor was joined by Varric Tethras, DAII’s dwarven narrator, and Cassandra Pentaghast. Cassandra was the character who interrogated Varric in the second game’s framing narrative, and her presence suggests that the two have found some kind of common cause.

The fourth character was Vivienne, a mage and First Enchanter of one of the Orlesian Circles. If you’ve been following the series, you’ll be able to piece together what this says about the Inquisition itself: that it’s removed from the broader conflict between Templars and mages, for one, and also that its direction is shaped by the player’s own preferences and affiliations.

http://www.pcgamer.c...rld-fortresses/

Perry stated that the stuff from the exhalted march eexpansion pack is now apart of DAI, Gaider said that this was cut twice before and is being written a third time to be reintroduced to DAI.

With a lot of new and returning characters promised for Dragon Age: Inquisition, were there internal arguments about which ones should come back as followers or play key roles in the game?

(Laughs) Not that I was privy to, no. I think there were a few fan favourites that we wanted to come back, and we had at one point planned a DLC for Dragon Age II called 'Exalted March' that we ended up not doing because we felt it was important to go ahead and switch over to new technology to really start focusing on Dragon Age: Inquisition.

Some of the characters that are returning are ones we'd planned to bring back for that DLC, so we really wanted to bring them back for Inquisition. A lot of that was kind of driven by the writers, so it's possible that they had some arguments, because there are a lot of really passionate fans, and every follower has a group of people that really want to see them again. We try to accommodate that as much as possible

http://www.xboxachie...estruction.html

The devs have also stated that depending on your playstyle, for instance you want to play as a conqueror type and overtake occupied fortresses in their territories they will take notice of this and it will have consequences with the monarchs during the makinf your mark one from NA.

So maybe they shouldn't make assumptions based on nothing, a lot of people married her, married her to Alistair to rule jointly or left her alone on the throne to rule and if it's about old character's returning than well they just need to deal with that.

Modifié par Spectre slayer, 21 janvier 2014 - 08:19 .

[Rotward]

Starsyn wrote...

iakus wrote...

She is her father's daughter

Yeah.  She's the daughter of one of the most obvious RPG antagonists of all time.  I'm not being sarcastic when I say I should have seen that coming.

Loghain produced that.  It makes me all the more glad I let Alistair chop his head off in this most recent playthrough.  If I'm a Cousland, I behead Loghain myself.  I have never made Loghain into a Grey Warden.

I did see it coming, and was quite disappointed I couldn't tell them to go **** themselves. At least, if there was a way, i didn't see it. 

[AutumnWitch]

I have no desire to see her again. I made Alistair King without her as his queen. I don't trust her so I hope she gets her comeuppance.

[Legbiter]

Naw, I like to think that my Cousland Warden nipped down to the dungeon and garrotted that barren peasant wench upon his return from killing the Archdemon.

My dwarf noble had her married to Alistair, so would be interesting to see that play out.

Modifié par Legbiter, 21 janvier 2014 - 09:15 .

[ThatRabidPotato]

otis0310 wrote...

Anora is amaster manipulator and will do anything to get power.

However she always end up winning because I will not let Loghain be a Gray Warden, he does not deserve it. Alistair will always sacrifice himself to save me if my affection is high enough, even with no romance. (Although that might be the dialogue patch I have that does that). The only way I can stop Alistair is to not bring him along, but he is far too good of tank to leave behind...

So Anora always ends up winning.

Not to mention, I think she makes a good point when she says Alistair would be a bad king.

You tell her that Arl Eamon will help him out when he is king, she says.

"And he will need it, because everyone knows he can't hold the throne on his own."

You ask Alistair if Anora should be queen, he says.

"I don't know. Maybe? She seems to want it....."

(approximate quotes)

Put those two together and I think Anora has made her case.

Ever heard of the Dark Ritual?
Also, I think the Human Noble Warden would be quite sufficient as a coruler and queen, without the scheming and manipulating.

[Magdalena11]

ThatRabidPotato wrote...

otis0310 wrote...

Anora is amaster manipulator and will do anything to get power.

However she always end up winning because I will not let Loghain be a Gray Warden, he does not deserve it. Alistair will always sacrifice himself to save me if my affection is high enough, even with no romance. (Although that might be the dialogue patch I have that does that). The only way I can stop Alistair is to not bring him along, but he is far too good of tank to leave behind...

So Anora always ends up winning.

Not to mention, I think she makes a good point when she says Alistair would be a bad king.

You tell her that Arl Eamon will help him out when he is king, she says.

"And he will need it, because everyone knows he can't hold the throne on his own."

You ask Alistair if Anora should be queen, he says.

"I don't know. Maybe? She seems to want it....."

(approximate quotes)

Put those two together and I think Anora has made her case.

Ever heard of the Dark Ritual?
Also, I think the Human Noble Warden would be quite sufficient as a coruler and queen, without the scheming and manipulating.

A couple points from both posts.

Anora is a master manipulator.  No kidding, she's been playing the Ferelden version of "the Game" her whole life.

Loghain's death and the dark ritual are roleplaying choices.  Neither one is "right"

Anora tells you that Alistair will be an irresponsible king and Alistair tells you that Anora is pushy and thinks she's the only one who can solve Ferelden's problems.  Neither one of them has anything good to say about the other.  I consider each's opinion of the other about as valid as I'd consider a modern politician's opinion opinion about the worthiness of his or her opponent.

Neither Alistair nor Anora will ultimately allow ruling status to their consort.  I think both of them actually refer to the Warden at some point by a ruling title (king or queen), but I might be wrong.  What matters is that everyone worked very hard to put a butt on the throne.  The owner of the butt is going to get the first and most important say in any decisions.  Between Alistair and Anora, I think Alistair might be more receptive to advice from the Warden, but he is still going to be the one making decisions.

[dragonflight288]

Between Alistair and Anora, I think Alistair might be more receptive to advice from the Warden, but he is still going to be the one making decisions.

That depends on if Alistair is hardened or not, and I base this judgment entirely on a line by Eamon.

"He knows how and when to give mercy. He knows how to leads troops into battle. He knows how to follow the Maker's commandments. And he knows who to turn to if that training fails him. He'll be fine."

Whether you like him or not, Eamon is ultimately the power behind the throne if Alistair rules alone, Alistair is unhardened, and the Warden isn't involved in politics as Chancellor. Everyone knows that if Alistair had problems, which he would, he would turn to those he trusted for advice and to tell him what to do (if unhardened.) Those people are either the Warden or Eamon.

[Mike3207]

She's one of the most interesting characters in Origins-of course I want to see her again. It was a bit disappointing she wasn't in DA2.

[Augustei]

Magdalena11 wrote...
Anora tells you that Alistair will be an irresponsible king

She was right on the point, A responsible King doesn't leave his country to go adventuring around Antiva and Tevinter, say what you will about the justification of his motivations.. He is still incredibly irresponsible for just leaving his Kingdom the way he did..... And don't even get me started on the whole annoncing his presence as the King of Ferelden in a room full of foreign nobles.

[ThatRabidPotato]

Magdalena11 wrote...



Neither Alistair nor Anora will ultimately allow ruling status to their consort.  I think both of them actually refer to the Warden at some point by a ruling title (king or queen), but I might be wrong.  What matters is that everyone worked very hard to put a butt on the throne.  The owner of the butt is going to get the first and most important say in any decisions.  Between Alistair and Anora, I think Alistair might be more receptive to advice from the Warden, but he is still going to be the one making decisions.

He says it straight in the epilogue: "People of Ferelden, may I introduce my betrothed, soon to be your Queen!"
If he's unhardened, I am quite certain that a female Warden would definitely be the one giving the orders. A hardened Alistair might not back down to his wife, yes, but unhardened would be easily henpecked into submission.

[Fuggyt]

Pasquale1234 wrote...

Starsyn wrote...
She also seemed like a backbiter; she claims to be against her father, unless you refuse to offer your support.  Then she turns on a dime, and will hang you out to dry.

Have you come across a situation where she actually betrays an agreement she made with you?  I certainly haven't.  Yes, she has an agenda, but IME she also keeps any agreement you made with her.

I always put Anora on the throne, with or without Alistair, as I think she makes a fairly good ruler.

If anyone's interested in Gaider's thoughts on controversies over Anora, he's posted some here.

Yes, I have come across a situation where she actually betrayed an agreement.  I got her to agree to marry my Cousland Warden to freeze out a hardened Alistair and then she took her father's side during the Landsmeet. 

Modifié par Fuggyt, 22 janvier 2014 - 03:18 .

[Gregolian]

XxDeonxX wrote...

Gregolian wrote...

Anora reminds me too much of Cersei. If she appears I hope Alistair has put a leash on her.

Yeah except one is politically competent (Anora) while the other one is a bloody fool (Cersei) lol.

IDK...  Anora still is kinda dumb thinking people would support her, the daughter of an Usurper and person that basically committed Regicide over the blood son of the man that dragged them out from under the thumb of Orlais.

[Gregolian]

XxDeonxX wrote...

Magdalena11 wrote...
Anora tells you that Alistair will be an irresponsible king

She was right on the point, A responsible King doesn't leave his country to go adventuring around Antiva and Tevinter, say what you will about the justification of his motivations.. He is still incredibly irresponsible for just leaving his Kingdom the way he did..... And don't even get me started on the whole annoncing his presence as the King of Ferelden in a room full of foreign nobles.

His dad wasn't much different and by all accounts he did a pretty damn good job until he got captured.

[Augustei]

Gregolian wrote...
His dad wasn't much different and by all accounts he did a pretty damn good job until he got captured.

Maric was A terrible King as well imo.
He did a good job tracking down his dad, doesn't make him any better A king running off north like he did.
And come to think of it, he didn't do that good a job on his little adventure anyway.. He got captured twice by foreign powers. Once by the Prince of Antiva of whom he only escaped due to Isabela and Varric and once by The Qunari.
Lucky they didn't get the chance to ransom him and bankrupt Ferelden. He and Maric remind me of King Richard the Lionheart who was another terrible moronic King and actually did bankrupt his nation. And his bloody "adventures" getting captured and ransomed and bankrupting his nation.

Modifié par XxDeonxX, 22 janvier 2014 - 04:22 .

[Gregolian]

XxDeonxX wrote...

Gregolian wrote...
His dad wasn't much different and by all accounts he did a pretty damn good job until he got captured.

Maric was A terrible King as well imo.
He did a good job tracking down his dad, doesn't make him any better A king running off north like he did.
And come to think of it, he didn't do that good a job on his little adventure anyway.. He got captured twice by foreign powers. Once by the Prince of Antiva of whom he only escaped due to Isabela and Varric and once by The Qunari.
Lucky they didn't get the chance to ransom him and bankrupt Ferelden. He and Maric remind me of King Richard the Lionheart who was another terrible moronic King and actually did bankrupt his nation. And his bloody "adventures" getting captured and ransomed and bankrupting his nation.

I honestly would still rather have Alistair over Loghain's distrusting self.

[rasloveszev]

franciscoamell wrote...

 Do you guys think and/or want to see Anora again? 

Personally, I'd love to see her again. She wasn't the nicest, but I still found her a really interesting character. I especially want to see her if she was made queen and the warden her consort.

I'm interested to see what became of her, but I never made her queen. Not because I hated her, I thought she was an honorable ally. However, I prefer having a friend on the throne than someone I can't influence.

[Hazegurl]

otis0310 wrote...
Not to mention, I think she makes a good point when she says Alistair would be a bad king.

You tell her that Arl Eamon will help him out when he is king, she says.

"And he will need it, because everyone knows he can't hold the throne on his own."

I think Anora is a bright woman but this quote makes her dumber than Alistair. Every ruler has advisors and should heed their warnings. There no such thing as a King or Queen who does it all on their own. Also, she is the one to talk, she can't even get the throne without aid.

[teh DRUMPf!!]

Frickin love Anora. I was tempted to play HN origin to marry her ass, but I liked other origins better.

[animedreamer]

 Daughter of a Farmer made Queen, sounds like the American Dream. hey that all rhymed.

[Banxey]

Anora's problem was that she made Cailan look good. When it came time reap the benefit of it, she realised the people of Ferelden were too stuck in their hero worship to realise she was the one they should follow. Which is why she had to seek an alliance with someone they could worship.

And if anyone is a manipulative schemer, it's Arl Eamon. Even hardened Alistair licks his boots. "Oh he's such a good guy, when I was a boy he made me sleep in the kennels with the hounds."

[SirGladiator]

I'd definitely like to see her again, as I always made her Queen. She was a cool and interesting character, and I'd like for my Inquisitor to get to have a conversation with her at some point.

[LobselVith8]

XxDeonxX wrote...

Maric was A terrible King as well imo.
He did a good job tracking down his dad, doesn't make him any better A king running off north like he did.
And come to think of it, he didn't do that good a job on his little adventure anyway.. He got captured twice by foreign powers. Once by the Prince of Antiva of whom he only escaped due to Isabela and Varric and once by The Qunari.
Lucky they didn't get the chance to ransom him and bankrupt Ferelden. He and Maric remind me of King Richard the Lionheart who was another terrible moronic King and actually did bankrupt his nation. And his bloody "adventures" getting captured and ransomed and bankrupting his nation. 

I honestly have no idea what Alistair was thinking, doing that when he had responsibilities as King.