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[Chanda]

So, I've heard that if you choose to be a Blood Mage this time around, it's going to be harder than just clicking a button to get the specialization, and it's going to have repercussions for your character.

I think if you're working with Vivienne, she's going to have a problem with it. Varric might not care. Cassandra... She might care.

How will people beyond your companions view your Inquisitor? How will it affect how you try to solve the conflict between the Chantry, Templars and Mages? And will it matter to the Red Templars, who are already an enemy faction?

If you use blood magic out in front of normal people, will they run away from you in terror? Or will they act like nothing happened, as in the past games?

What will the consequences be if you are a Blood Mage?

I can't wait to hear more from Bioware about these new mechanics. I've tried playing as a Blood Mage before, but because no one responded to my "evil ways", it was just like playing another mage. This should make it a lot more interesting.

Edit: In the latest Nerd Appropriate Podcast, Dragon Age Inquisition - Playable Races, around the 44:00 mark, the Devs talk about the Blood Mage specialization and how they want it to be more "threatening from the player perspective,"  "through a bunch of different means".

Modifié par Chanda, 19 septembre 2013 - 05:05 .

[sandalisthemaker]

Combat-wise, using blood magic spells could cause a demon enemy's aggro to go berserk, and they should target a blood mage more frequently than anyone else. Also, being a blood mage could cause the frequency of demon encounters while traveling to increase.

Story wise, companions should confront your character based on how they feel about blood magic.

[Angrywolves]

If I play a mage I won't be a blood mage.
I assume blood mages will be reviled.
You'll have to work hard to overcome it.

[mikeymoonshine]

Dunno, I do hope companions won't abandon you simply for being a blood mage but yeah I can imagine a few of them having a problem with it.

Hawke can be a blood mage and Varric was friends with Merrill. I guess he could be quite concerned for your character considering what blood magic did to Merrill and most of the other mages in kirkwall.

Seems to me like the companions will put personal issues aside for the greater good but the stuff you do will influence the convo's you have with them.

[KainD]

sandalisthemaker wrote...

Combat-wise, using blood magic spells could cause a demon enemy's aggro to go berserk, and they should target a blood mage more frequently than anyone else. Also, being a blood mage could cause the frequency of demon encounters while traveling to increase.

What? Why? 

[DarkKnightHolmes]

This is how it's going to go down:

Templar: Look, it's a blood mage!
Inquisitor: [Persuade] I'm not a blood mage!
Templar: You sure convinced me, move along upstanding citizen!

[sandalisthemaker]

KainD wrote...

sandalisthemaker wrote...

Combat-wise, using blood magic spells could cause a demon enemy's aggro to go berserk, and they should target a blood mage more frequently than anyone else. Also, being a blood mage could cause the frequency of demon encounters while traveling to increase.

What? Why? 

Because magic attracts demons, and blood magic attracts them even more.

[KainD]

sandalisthemaker wrote...

Because magic attracts demons, and blood magic attracts them even more.

Where did you get that information? 

[RedWulfi]

I just hope they implement it well enough so that when I USE blood magic, NPC's will actually take notice, And not be completely oblivious.

[mikeymoonshine]

sandalisthemaker wrote...

KainD wrote...

sandalisthemaker wrote...

Combat-wise, using blood magic spells could cause a demon enemy's aggro to go berserk, and they should target a blood mage more frequently than anyone else. Also, being a blood mage could cause the frequency of demon encounters while traveling to increase.

What? Why? 

Because magic attracts demons, and blood magic attracts them even more.

Hmm with demons being able to enter thedas without possessing people do you think they will still be interested in posessing mages? and if so why are they? 

[RedWulfi]

Demons are attracted to mages all the time. Wynne even talks about that. Same as Anders etc
It's why they go through the Harrowing, to see if the mage is strong enough to resist the demon's temptation. If they fail, they get the Rite of Tranquility because they are now a threat.

[KainD]

AndersIsLush wrote...

Demons are attracted to mages all the time.

Because through possession they can cross the veil.. which now is torn apart. Wynne and Anders haven't lived in a world with a torn veil. 

Modifié par KainD, 07 septembre 2013 - 12:29 .

[mikeymoonshine]

AndersIsLush wrote...

Demons are attracted to mages all the time. Wynne even talks about that. Same as Anders etc
It's why they go through the Harrowing, to see if the mage is strong enough to resist the demon's temptation. If they fail, they get the Rite of Tranquility because they are now a threat.

Yes but that is because demons want to posess mages, By posseing them they can cross over to this world and exsperience it for themselves. But they can do that now without Possessing mages. 

SO I wonder if there will be any possession storylines in Da3 and if so why? 

[sandalisthemaker]

mikeymoonshine wrote...

sandalisthemaker wrote...

KainD wrote...

sandalisthemaker wrote...

Combat-wise, using blood magic spells could cause a demon enemy's aggro to go berserk, and they should target a blood mage more frequently than anyone else. Also, being a blood mage could cause the frequency of demon encounters while traveling to increase.

What? Why? 

Because magic attracts demons, and blood magic attracts them even more.

Hmm with demons being able to enter thedas without possessing people do you think they will still be interested in posessing mages? and if so why are they? 

They may not need host bodies, true. But blood magic definitely draws demons to the mage even more than regular magic.  

[Maverick827]

DarkKnightHolmes wrote...

This is how it's going to go down:

Templar: Look, it's a blood mage!
Inquisitor: [Persuade] I'm not a blood mage!
Templar: You sure convinced me, move along upstanding citizen!

Telepathic guards are just as bad as oblivious ones.

[Xenomorphine]

'Blood magic' has always seemed a bit of an anomaly to me. Technically, anybody could be one. They'd just need a small container of the stuff hidden on them and nobody would be any the wiser.

It's not the tearing of skin which is important. It's the element.

I'm presently a mage on a replay of the first game and, this time, trying to do all I can to explore blood magic abilities, but... I don't know. It feels totally useless. Like I should have just invested the points in other spells. The last two abilities look interesting, though. Boiling enemies and making groups of them your allies. Maybe it'll be worth it if mine can do that.

[Ferretinabun]

AndersIsLush wrote...

I just hope they implement it well enough so that when I USE blood magic, NPC's will actually take notice, And not be completely oblivious.

This is exactly the reason I've never played a blood mage in the previous games. If it actually gets acknowledged, I'll be much more inclined to play it in this one.

[mikeymoonshine]

sandalisthemaker wrote...

mikeymoonshine wrote...

sandalisthemaker wrote...

KainD wrote...

sandalisthemaker wrote...

Combat-wise, using blood magic spells could cause a demon enemy's aggro to go berserk, and they should target a blood mage more frequently than anyone else. Also, being a blood mage could cause the frequency of demon encounters while traveling to increase.

What? Why? 

Because magic attracts demons, and blood magic attracts them even more.

Hmm with demons being able to enter thedas without possessing people do you think they will still be interested in posessing mages? and if so why are they? 

They may not need host bodies, true. But blood magic definitely draws demons to the mage even more than regular magic.  

Well yeah but again thats coz they wanna possess mages and blood mages seem to act like beacons or something. I guess when posessing demons will feed on you like a desire demon feeds on your desires and lives your life through you. 

maybe that is part of why they possess so that they can feel through you.

[sandalisthemaker]

KainD wrote...

sandalisthemaker wrote...

Because magic attracts demons, and blood magic attracts them even more.

Where did you get that information? 

Here we go.   World of Thedas page109:

"Mages who experiment with blood magic are more susceptible to demonic spirits, such as pride demons and risk becoming abominations by way of possession."

There is also a excerpt in the form of a letter on that page  "Responsible Blood Magic"  written by a magister:

"And what of Magister Calanthus, that fool who believed he could make himself the 'Ascended Man' with blood magic? Thirty-three slaves died in that rite, and Calanthus became an abomination so horrific that his apprentices tore out their eyes at the sight of him." 

Apparently, merely casting a powerful blood magic spell while shedding lots of blood runs the risk of instantly turning the caster into an abomination.

Modifié par sandalisthemaker, 07 septembre 2013 - 12:51 .

[KainD]

sandalisthemaker wrote...

Here we go.   World of Thedas page109:

"Mages who experiment with blood magic are more susceptible to demonic spirits, such as pride demons and risk becoming abominations by way of possession."

There is also a excerpt in the form of a letter on that page  "Responsible Blood Magic"  written by a magister:

"And what of Magister Calanthus, that fool who believed he could make himself the 'Ascended Man' with blood magic? Thirty-three slaves died in that rite, and Calanthus became an abomination so horrific that his apprentices tore out their eyes at the sight of him." 

Apparently, merely casting a powerful blood magic spell while shedding lots of blood runs the risk of instantly turning the caster into an abomination.

Thanks. 

[KainD]

Xenomorphine wrote...

I'm presently a mage on a replay of the first game and, this time, trying to do all I can to explore blood magic abilities, but... I don't know. It feels totally useless. Like I should have just invested the points in other spells. The last two abilities look interesting, though. Boiling enemies and making groups of them your allies. Maybe it'll be worth it if mine can do that.

Everything in blood magic tree is trash except for:
1) Just the ability to cast manaless.
2) Blood wound - which is like an AoE Crushing Prison - one of the best and the most OP spells in the game. The only reason it is not the best, is because it doesn't work on everything. 

Modifié par KainD, 07 septembre 2013 - 01:00 .

[Hellion Rex]

sandalisthemaker wrote...

KainD wrote...

sandalisthemaker wrote...

Because magic attracts demons, and blood magic attracts them even more.

Where did you get that information? 

Here we go.   World of Thedas page109:

"Mages who experiment with blood magic are more susceptible to demonic spirits, such as pride demons and risk becoming abominations by way of possession."

There is also a excerpt in the form of a letter on that page  "Responsible Blood Magic"  written by a magister:

"And what of Magister Calanthus, that fool who believed he could make himself the 'Ascended Man' with blood magic? Thirty-three slaves died in that rite, and Calanthus became an abomination so horrific that his apprentices tore out their eyes at the sight of him." 

Apparently, merely casting a powerful blood magic spell while shedding lots of blood runs the risk of instantly turning the caster into an abomination.

I guess all of that death made him an instant target for a demon. It's passages like this that make me want to see some extremely powerful demons.

[azarhal]

I don't see Cassandra being too happy about the Inquisitor becoming a blood mage. She turned all the one she saw into a puddle of blood, broken bones and flesh in DotS.

[Chanda]

Maybe they'll revamp the Blood Mage skills. Blood Magic is powerful, but it's also dangerous. The question is, is it worth the abilities it gives you to use it?

[Chanda]

azarhal wrote...

I don't see Cassandra being too happy about the Inquisitor becoming a blood mage. She turned all the one she saw into a puddle of blood, broken bones and flesh in DotS.

Thanks. I haven't seen that movie. Of course, if they were already going to attack her, that makes sense that she would slaughter them in turn. But if she has to work side by side with one, that could be a different story.