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[David7204]

Oh, so every series has content that pushes him towards quitting, then? Is that what's going on?

...Meaning that such a complaint is entirely worthless, then. Since it obviously applies to everything.

Modifié par David7204, 07 septembre 2013 - 10:27 .

[Steelcan]

David you have to realize that no one takes you seriously anymore

[MassivelyEffective0730]

David7204 wrote...

Oh, so every series has content that pushes him towards quitting, then? Is that what's going on?

...Meaning that such a complaint is entirely worthless, then. Since it obviously applies to everything.

There's a false conclusion.

Are you a member of the WBC by any chance? You seem hellbent on being an ass more than you do on even making an argument. I mean, only they seem to utterly reject everything else on the basis of their own opinions infallibility that you must have some connection to them.

Modifié par MassivelyEffective0730, 07 septembre 2013 - 10:29 .

[Barquiel]

Omega Torsk wrote...

Since this thread seems to be machine-gunning posts at a rapid rate, I'll continue.

Barquiel wrote...

Shepard explicitly says she wants the turian fleet to take Earth back (See this devastation Primarch? Double that for Earth).

Well... the Primarch didn't have to agree to it, you know.

When I said pragmatic, I meant that Shepard and Garrus were taking the Reaper devastation like... well, grown-ups.

Earth only becomes important after the Citadel gets moved there, but that doesn't happen until late in the game. But we still spend the entire game convincing other species to help  lovely Earth and leave their own planets to die.

Liara did her job on Thessia, and she's ready to go on the very next mission. Her reaction immediately after Thessia is certainly much more believable than the wooden response of some other characters.

Modifié par Barquiel, 07 septembre 2013 - 10:29 .

[spirosz]

Shepard, he became an NPC as opposed to my PC for ME3.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

spirosz wrote...

Shepard, he became an NPC as opposed to my PC for ME3.

At certain points, yup.

[Astartes Marine]

Steelcan wrote...
David you have to realize that no one takes you seriously anymore

And yet everyone falls into the trap by replying to the troll.  Well done people.  <_<

[GreyLycanTrope]

Probably depends on the amount of things he finds annoying in the material overall. No two works of fiction are alike, and yes minor issue can keep people from getting into series it's called personal preference. But honestly I'm done humoring you Davey.

[David7204]

StreetMagic wrote...

David7204 wrote...

Because he said they bothered him to the extent of pushing him towards quitting the series. So obviously if every series had such problems, he would basically be avoiding fiction altogether, would he not?

You need to stop and read posts. I know it's a fast moving thread, but do yourself a favor.

I never said I quit. I said if it wasn't for the general quality of the series, these little things would bother me.

But the point is, they don't bother me. I overlook them. Certainly don't bother me to a "great extent". I haven't quit and said the series had quality in that VERY post.

Oh, no, no, no. You said, and I quote "If it wasn't for the general quality of the trilogy as a whole, these little things would make me quit."

It sounds to me like you're changing your story. First you were saying they bothering you to the extent of pushing you towards quitting. Now you're saying they don't bother you at all.

[Steelcan]

@Barquiel, she didn't do her job. She whined and cried and should have stayed on the ship. Her meltdown only proves that she is not able to handle it.

[spirosz]

Secretlyapotato wrote...

Jack, dumb cow acts all tough and punches my femshep and then gets away with it. >

Jack is stronger, deal with it.  

[MassivelyEffective0730]

David7204 wrote...

StreetMagic wrote...

David7204 wrote...

Because he said they bothered him to the extent of pushing him towards quitting the series. So obviously if every series had such problems, he would basically be avoiding fiction altogether, would he not?

You need to stop and read posts. I know it's a fast moving thread, but do yourself a favor.

I never said I quit. I said if it wasn't for the general quality of the series, these little things would bother me.

But the point is, they don't bother me. I overlook them. Certainly don't bother me to a "great extent". I haven't quit and said the series had quality in that VERY post.

Oh, no, no, no. You said, and I quote "If it wasn't for the general quality of the trilogy as a whole, these little things would make me quit."

It sounds to me like you're changing your story. First you were saying they bothering you to the extent of pushing you towards quitting. Now you're saying they don't bother you at all.

It sounds to me like you're deliberately misinterpreting his statement to antagonize him for the point of brutal sophistry. 

Does winning an internet argument make you feel powerful David? 

[Sir DeLoria]

Steelcan wrote...

@Barquiel, she didn't do her job. She whined and cried and should have stayed on the ship. Her meltdown only proves that she is not able to handle it.

Yep, pretty much. Garrus keeps his cool prefectly when Palaven is attacked. Sure, he's disturbed and saddened on the Normandy, but he keeps it together while in battle. Same with Tali.

[spirosz]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...


Does winning an internet argument make you feel powerful David? 

This music is playing in the background, tbh. 

[Steelcan]

Necanor wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

@Barquiel, she didn't do her job. She whined and cried and should have stayed on the ship. Her meltdown only proves that she is not able to handle it.

Yep, pretty much. Garrus keeps his cool prefectly when Palaven is attacked. Sure, he's disturbed and saddened on the Normandy, but he keeps it together while in battle. Same with Tali.

.  So does Shepard.  he doesnt cry himself into his pillow after Earth fell.  He reolves to save it  not whine and mope.

[David7204]

I'm just innocently pointing out what I see. Surely we can all agree that when someone says "If it weren't for the good parts, these little things would make me quit" that the 'little things' in question bother him or her? That seems very obvious to me. Why would you quit if such things didn't bother you?

And now I see him claiming the opposite. It's just an innocent little observation on my part.

Modifié par David7204, 07 septembre 2013 - 10:38 .

[TheMyron]

I really can't stand how many times Shepard says something stupid in ME3; I so much liked it better how in the first two games, he kept his mouth shut until it was his turn to speak, and when that turn came it was totally up to the player to decide what got said and how.

[David7204]

Oh, please. Let's not delude ourselves into thinking that dialogue was perfect in ME 1 and ME 2 and then went totally downhill in ME 3.

"You're just a machine, and machines can be broken!"

[AlanC9]

Wow..... this thread's really descending into idiocy.

Though oddly enough, the post just above this one makes perfect sense.

Modifié par AlanC9, 07 septembre 2013 - 10:43 .

[Omega Torsk]

Barquiel wrote...

Omega Torsk wrote...

Since this thread seems to be machine-gunning posts at a rapid rate, I'll continue.

Barquiel wrote...

Shepard explicitly says she wants the turian fleet to take Earth back (See this devastation Primarch? Double that for Earth).

Well... the Primarch didn't have to agree to it, you know.

When I said pragmatic, I meant that Shepard and Garrus were taking the Reaper devastation like... well, grown-ups.

Earth only becomes important after the Citadel gets moved there, but that doesn't happen until late in the game. But we still spend the entire game convincing other species to help  lovely Earth and leave their own planets to die.

Liara did her job on Thessia, and she's ready to go on the very next mission. Her reaction immediately after Thessia is certainly much more believable than the wooden response of some other characters.

The humans have a better bargaining chip than "Omg, my precious world is dying. Plz saev it!" 

They have the Crucible. I mentioned this. Fighting for Earth is just a rallying point.

[Sir DeLoria]

Steelcan wrote...

Necanor wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

@Barquiel, she didn't do her job. She whined and cried and should have stayed on the ship. Her meltdown only proves that she is not able to handle it.

Yep, pretty much. Garrus keeps his cool prefectly when Palaven is attacked. Sure, he's disturbed and saddened on the Normandy, but he keeps it together while in battle. Same with Tali.

.  So does Shepard.  he doesnt cry himself into his pillow after Earth fell.  He reolves to save it  not whine and mope.

Exactly. Her emotional and psychological weakness would've been a good reason to never recruit her. She's not fit for war, simple as that.

[Barquiel]

Necanor wrote...

Yep, pretty much. Garrus keeps his cool prefectly when Palaven is attacked. Sure, he's disturbed and saddened on the Normandy, but he keeps it together while in battle. Same with Tali.

Garrus had a lot more time to deal with the situation. Palaven is already under siege (for several days) when Shepard arrives.

Tali either commits suicide or gains her homeworld back. Not much to complain about for her part...

Shepard complains...a lot (and has weird dreams about some kid)

Liara takes it hard, but pushes the grief back to do her job (after a single pep-talk). So why is this allowed to everyone else except Liara? And if she didn't have some kind of break down I would consider this a major OOC moment. She isn't a trained soldier.

Modifié par Barquiel, 07 septembre 2013 - 10:46 .