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[ScarMK]

General Slotts wrote...

Guys, can we keep the quote pyramids to a minimum? Otherwise this thread might get very hard to read.

Threads already gonna get locked at this point.  Might as well go all the way.

[2Pac]

Knight of Dane wrote...

alliance commander wrote...

Knight of Dane wrote...

alliance commander wrote...

Knight of Dane wrote...

alliance commander wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

Guys ignore David.

'Tis not fun

Ignoring Plantiff would be better he's absolutely the most insufferable jackass I've ever had the misfortune of coming across.<_<

You have not been able to argue any of his point(s?) though, you are the one spewing assumptions around. Can't blame him for stating it repeatedly.

He makes no points, he said the same **** twice. "Nobody really needs any aspect of gaming"? Why the hell is he playing games if he's gonna go off claiming that because he can't live without romances? 

It's not about "Living without" it's simply enjoying a piece of content that Bioware happen to focus ona  bit more.
Romance is no less valuable than any other aspect of the game, the entire idea behind a "game" is that it is a piece of entertainment.

If Plaintiff and others like myself find romances entertaining in games too, why does it have to be elevated as more "unecessary" when the very nature of video games themselves are unecessary entertainment?

No Less Valuable? Are you kidding me? There are much more valuable things than "romances" Such as gameplay, graphics. etc. I guarantee The game would be so much better without romances. But no everyone would hate the game without their ****** material, If they focused more on dialouge options and gameplay the game would be much better.

That depends entirely on opinion. There is no factual argument that any content in a game is more important than others.

There is of course design arguments, gameplay goes first because that's the experience in a game, but if you only focused on that you would end up with a boring shell that might be fun to try first.

Wether the game would be better or not is not an argument I feel like getting into, for none of us would be right. What I'm arguing is that your opinion is not fact, neither are mine, but romance is going to stay as long as there is a demand for it, and as long as it is expected in bioware games.

You are the only one using the word ****** in this discussion, I am not interested in going low enough to argue against such chilish statements. When you have to stoop to insulting terms it just shows that you are trying to cover up the gaping hole that is your missing arguments.

If you really dislike romances so much that you think it ruins your game experience then play another game.

That's what I do when I dislike a game enough; change game.

I am using ****** only to prove that people cannot live without romances that's why it's "******" matieral to them. I feel as that most Dragons Age fans play it for the damn romances, It's 100% True actually. Romances do not ruin my experience they only make the game useless, I feel that dragons age 2 would have been a better game without romances. They should have focused on the gameplay more.

Modifié par alliance commander, 07 septembre 2013 - 03:46 .

[Knight of Dane]

General Slotts wrote...

Guys, can we keep the quote pyramids to a minimum? Otherwise this thread might get very hard to read.

[ScarMK]

alliance commander wrote...

I am using ****** only to prove that people cannot live without romances. I feel as that most Dragons Age fans play it for the damn romances, It's 100% True actually. Romances do not ruin my experience they only make the game useless, I feel that dragons age 2 would have been a better game without romances. They should have focused on the gameplay more.

With such a short development time, they should have just re used the art from Origins instead of spending (What I assume) a quarter or so of the cycle making new ones.

[LethesDeep]

alliance commander wrote...

LethesDeep wrote...

Gameplay is important, graphics is debateable (I'd say aesthetics is more important as even decades old games still look good despite the graphics being outdated). As for the "****** material", tell me, do you get in relationships just for sex? I don't, I get in relationships to know the other person more. What you decry and what you advocate are not mutually exclusive, just requires a reworking of some phrases and the removal of a 15 second scene.

Treating a video game romance as if it was real is revolting, You're basically stating video game romances are no different than real life, How ignorant.

Please. Videogame relationships are shallow things. In fact, that can be applied to all relationships depicted in all media - it has to be condensed into the timespan for said media (8+ hours for games, ~2 hours for movies, etc.) However, I've seen real relationships that were the same - it was all about sex, one partner was using the other for some reason, it was abusive, etc. So yes, in some cases videogame romances are no different than real "romances".

Also, the people who make the romances are the writers and the animators. They do not have much say on how the gameplay works, so stop using that as an argument unless you can give an example of how giving a writer some free time can better improve weapon balance or something.

Modifié par LethesDeep, 07 septembre 2013 - 03:50 .

[David7204]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Themes from stories apply to real life. I'll remember that the next time I'm killed by a synthetic that's trying to save me from being killed by a synthetic.

I don't think you realize how mundane your life is. 

It's wish-fulfillment for you isn't it. Here you get all the attention you think you deserve!

Yes. Themes from stories apply to real life. Are you really going to try and argue with me otherwise? 

Let me also dispel your ridiculous delusions. First of all, if it was here for attention, I would be encouraging your little clique to follow me around, not asking you to bugger off. Secondly, there are countless places online I could recieve nought but praise. The fact that I spend time here instead should be indicative of what I am and aren't interested in.

[dreamgazer]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

You've obviously never been to Dino's, The Red Garter, or Classy Chassis before...

Or been on the corner of 79th and Washington Street at 1:30 am. 

Let alone Kilroy's or the Tilted Kilt on Thirsty Thursday.

Your expertise on this is amusing, Wally. 

Modifié par dreamgazer, 07 septembre 2013 - 03:51 .

[SlottsMachine]

ScarMK wrote...

General Slotts wrote...

Guys, can we keep the quote pyramids to a minimum? Otherwise this thread might get very hard to read.

Threads already gonna get locked at this point.  Might as well go all the way.

[Knight of Dane]

alliance commander wrote...

I am using ****** only to prove that people cannot live without romances. I feel as that most Dragons Age fans play it for the damn romances, It's 100% True actually. Romances do not ruin my experience they only make the game useless, I feel that dragons age 2 would have been a better game without romances. They should have focused on the gameplay more.

How is your use of a single word proving anything when you are the only one saying it?

I'm done arguing with you. When you use "I feel" and "It's 100% true actually" in the same statement I can't take you seriously.

[mikeymoonshine]

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I am using ****** only to prove that people cannot live without romances. I feel as that most Dragons Age fans play it for the damn romances, It's 100% True actually. Romances do not ruin my experience they only make the game useless, I feel that dragons age 2 would have been a better game without romances. They should have focused on the gameplay more.

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Wtf are you even talking about, cannot live without romance indeed I am sure allot of the people defending romance have already said they would still play the game without it in they just don't se it as a negative! 

The romances were kinda sucky in DA2 but are you actually blaming the problems that game had on the romances? 

Modifié par mikeymoonshine, 07 septembre 2013 - 03:49 .

[Volus Warlord]

David7204 wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Themes from stories apply to real life. I'll remember that the next time I'm killed by a synthetic that's trying to save me from being killed by a synthetic.

I don't think you realize how mundane your life is. 

It's wish-fulfillment for you isn't it. Here you get all the attention you think you deserve!

Yes. Themes from stories apply to real life. Are you really going to try and argue with me otherwise? 

Let me also dispel your ridiculous delusions. First of all, if it was here for attention, I would be encouraging your little clique to follow me around, not asking you to bugger off. Secondly, there are countless places online I could recieve nought but praise. The fact that I spend time here instead should be indicative of what I am and aren't interested in.

That is some hilarious stuff there.

[SlottsMachine]

dreamgazer wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

You've obviously never been to Dino's, The Red Garter, or Classy Chassis before...

Or been on the corner of 79th and Washington Street at 1:30 am. 

Let alone Kilroy's or the Tilted Kilt on Thirsty Thursday.

Yor expertise on this is amusing, Wally. 

LOL. Wally is a man's man!

[MassivelyEffective0730]

David7204 wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Themes from stories apply to real life. I'll remember that the next time I'm killed by a synthetic that's trying to save me from being killed by a synthetic.

I don't think you realize how mundane your life is. 

It's wish-fulfillment for you isn't it. Here you get all the attention you think you deserve!

Yes. Themes from stories apply to real life. Are you really going to try and argue with me otherwise? 

Let me also dispel your ridiculous delusions. First of all, if it was here for attention, I would be encouraging your little clique to follow me around, not asking you to bugger off. Secondly, there are countless places online I could recieve nought but praise. The fact that I spend time here instead should be indicative of what I am and aren't interested in.

... Attention. 

Granted, we do all praise you here.

We give you the same praise that's given to Plan 9 and Troll 2.

You'd get it everywhere else too.

Modifié par MassivelyEffective0730, 07 septembre 2013 - 03:51 .

[Steelcan]

David7204 wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Themes from stories apply to real life. I'll remember that the next time I'm killed by a synthetic that's trying to save me from being killed by a synthetic.

I don't think you realize how mundane your life is. 

It's wish-fulfillment for you isn't it. Here you get all the attention you think you deserve!

Yes. Themes from stories apply to real life. Are you really going to try and argue with me otherwise? 

Let me also dispel your ridiculous delusions. First of all, if it was here for attention, I would be encouraging your little clique to follow me around, not asking you to bugger off. Secondly, there are countless places online I could recieve nought but praise. The fact that I spend time here instead should be indicative of what I am and aren't interested in.

So your a masochaist?

[David7204]

It's 2013. Anyone with an internet connection has access to free and basically unlimited porn. The idea that someone would instead play through a 35 hour game for a 15 second PG-13 cutscene or even a fade to black scene should be laughably absurd to anyone with a brain. Not to mention the fact that there's utterly no correlation at all between fans' reported satisfaction the romance and the explictness of the sex scene.

Modifié par David7204, 07 septembre 2013 - 03:52 .

[Volus Warlord]

David7204 wrote...

It's 2013. Anyone with an internet connection has access to free and basically unlimited porn. The idea that someone would instead play through a 35 hour game for a 15 second PG-13 cutscene or even a fade to black scene should be laughably absurd to anyone with a brain.

You do not know BSN.

[Steelcan]

David7204 wrote...

It's 2013. Anyone with an internet connection has access to free and basically unlimited porn. The idea that someone would instead play through a 35 hour game for a 15 second PG-13 cutscene or even a fade to black scene should be laughably absurd to anyone with a brain.

Its more than judt the "15 second PG-13 cutscene"

its the build up and head canon

[2Pac]

Knight of Dane wrote...

alliance commander wrote...

I am using ****** only to prove that people cannot live without romances. I feel as that most Dragons Age fans play it for the damn romances, It's 100% True actually. Romances do not ruin my experience they only make the game useless, I feel that dragons age 2 would have been a better game without romances. They should have focused on the gameplay more.

How is your use of a single word proving anything when you are the only one saying it?

I'm done arguing with you. When you use "I feel" and "It's 100% true actually" in the same statement I can't take you seriously.

I feel the same you keep using my non important statements as an excuse. It's hard to take you seriously.

Modifié par alliance commander, 07 septembre 2013 - 03:53 .

[Shadow Fox]

I just want a well adjusted LI for both genders DA2's LIs sucked as did DAO's in this regard.

[mikeymoonshine]

David7204 wrote...

It's 2013. Anyone with an internet connection has access to free and basically unlimited porn. The idea that someone would instead play through a 35 hour game for a 15 second PG-13 cutscene or even a fade to black scene should be laughably absurd to anyone with a brain.

Sounds like something a woman might do or a gay man but not most people no. 

Tbh I would rather the sex scenes were just not shown at all. it's not that I am a prude or anything it's just that they always look so weird and awkward. :/ 

[ScarMK]

mikeymoonshine wrote...


Sounds like something a woman might do or a gay man but not most people no. 

Tbh I would rather the sex scenes were just not shown at all. it's not that I am a prude or anything it's just that they always look so weird and awkward. :/ 

But, if a game doesn't show nudity, then it's not mature!