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[Inquisitor Recon]

cjones91 wrote...
Be careful,you're privilege is showing it's ugly head.

I love the smell of privilege in the morning. I wake up and the lower classes throw money at me because I'm a straight white male. It's great, you should really try it.

[lady_v23]

Um.. Can people ignore the obvious instigators and continue with the topic of the thread?

[ObserverStatus]

cjones91 wrote...

Wheel_of_Fate wrote...
Just goes to show how many people are more interested in being able to hump a specific character to their liking than whether it's actually relevant for the game and the game's background/lore. Go play the sims and get babies with aliens, y'all. Oh wait, we already got that in Mass Effect. High quality, even!

Be careful,you're privilege is showing it's ugly head.

That's actually not how your is supposed to be spelled, not actually.

[d4eaming]

By the by, the queer population is likely much higher than 5% or even 10%, as quite a lot of people identify on a spectrum rather than at either end, plus you are ignoring all the transfolk, and the stealth-trans that you'll never know used to be the other gender.

We're out there, and there are more of us than you think. That must be frightening.

[Wheel_of_Fate]

@Ryzaki: Really? Oh well. You say EAware cares about the LGTB folks, right? But you supported that with a comparison to aspects of the game to attract the 'stereotypical' game audience. Does EAware do this to show their respect to this particular audience? No, it's for the money. Boobs = male gamer = money. And you're basically saying EAware's doing the same with the LGTBers. By including LGTB stuff = LGTB crowd = money. It has zero to do with respect. Y'all so naive.

[Inquisitor Recon]

Ryzaki wrote...
How DARE I want equal LIs in a game. I mean. THE NERVE.

So equal is a 1:1 ratio, yet the market (human population) in the real world doesn't exist as a 1:1 sexuality ratio. So is equality you getting more attention than everybody else or did I forget to factor in privilege into my math?

Modifié par Inquisitor Recon, 08 septembre 2013 - 01:51 .

[cjones91]

bobobo878 wrote...

cjones91 wrote...

Wheel_of_Fate wrote...
Just goes to show how many people are more interested in being able to hump a specific character to their liking than whether it's actually relevant for the game and the game's background/lore. Go play the sims and get babies with aliens, y'all. Oh wait, we already got that in Mass Effect. High quality, even!

Be careful,you're privilege is showing it's ugly head.

That's actually not how your is supposed to be spelled, not actually.

Crap,I can't believe I missed that.

[Am1vf]

lady_v23 wrote...

Why is it that when some people arrive in a thread, that same thread starts on its way to get locked...

What I would like to know is why isn't that kind of people banned tbh. It would be a more permament solution than locking threads and the rest would be allowed to keep discussing like civilized people.


On topic: genuine question for the people that say playersexual romances allow to be represented and/or give choice for more people. Wouldn't it be better representation and choice if there was actual variety of sexualities emong the NPCs? 

Skyrim comes to mind. I don't see how that game is inclusive for allowing no marry NPCs because all the NPCs seem asexual to me.

Oh, and about the "it's too expensive" argument, I'll consider that valid when companies start to say the same thing to their marketing departments.

[Steelcan]

Inquisitor Recon wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...
How DARE I want equal LIs in a game. I mean. THE NERVE.

So equal is a 1:1 ratio, yet the market (human population) in the real world doesn't exist as a 1:1 sexuality ratio. So is equality you getting more attention than everybody else or did I forget to factor in privilege into my math.

DIRTY DIRTY PRIVILEGE

[Ryzaki]

greengoron89 wrote...

We make up the majority of the population. Of course we would be the demographic most catered to.

It's only business. Don't have to take it so personally.

The bolded makes me lol.

You wanna know who most likely makes gaming companies the most money?

CASUALS.

Yet the SECOND gamers start catering to said group the ****ing from the enthusiasts commences.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 08 septembre 2013 - 01:51 .

[cjones91]

Inquisitor Recon wrote...

cjones91 wrote...
Be careful,you're privilege is showing it's ugly head.

I love the smell of privilege in the morning. I wake up and the lower classes throw money at me because I'm a straight white male. It's great, you should really try it.

Nah I'm good.Because I actually support equality and equal representation for all genders,races,and people with sexual preferences.

[werewoof]

Wheel_of_Fate wrote...

@Ryzaki: Really? Oh well. You say EAware cares about the LGTB folks, right? But you supported that with a comparison to aspects of the game to attract the 'stereotypical' game audience. Does EAware do this to show their respect to this particular audience? No, it's for the money. Boobs = male gamer = money. And you're basically saying EAware's doing the same with the LGTBers. By including LGTB stuff = LGTB crowd = money. It has zero to do with respect. Y'all so naive.

so you're admitting that we're a valid enough demographic for EA/Bioware to expend resources on then? clearly we are given the track record with dragon age

interesting 

[Wheel_of_Fate]

@d4eaming: I doubt queers were that common in medieval Europe, which seems to be the background setting for DA:I. But still, does it matter that much for you? Would you feel accomplished in life if they added a queer dwarf in the game, just for the sake of it?

[Ryzaki]

Inquisitor Recon wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...
How DARE I want equal LIs in a game. I mean. THE NERVE.

So equal is a 1:1 ratio, yet the market (human population) in the real world doesn't exist as a 1:1 sexuality ratio. So is equality you getting more attention than everybody else or did I forget to factor in privilege into my math?

OMG OMG OMG

You mean...real life isn't equal to a video game?

NO WAY.

You make the mistake in assuming I care about real life stats for video game romances. I don't. In RL you get a heck lot more than 2 or 3 people to "woo" and alot of them reject the hell out of you. RL has far too many relationship variables for them to be meaningfully and realistically put in a video game.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 08 septembre 2013 - 01:53 .

[werewoof]

d4eaming wrote...

By the by, the queer population is likely much higher than 5% or even 10%, as quite a lot of people identify on a spectrum rather than at either end, plus you are ignoring all the transfolk, and the stealth-trans that you'll never know used to be the other gender.

We're out there, and there are more of us than you think. That must be frightening.

we're out there lying in wait to steal the box art and larger portion of romance subplots out from the noses of poor unsuspecting straight cis men

Wheel_of_Fate wrote...

@d4eaming: I doubt queers were that common in medieval Europe, which seems to be the background setting for DA:I. But still, does it matter that much for you? Would you feel accomplished in life if they added a queer dwarf in the game, just for the sake of it?

dragons and elves weren't terribly common either but heeeey whatever floats your boat there skippy

Modifié par tiktac, 08 septembre 2013 - 01:54 .

[AresKeith]

LindsayLohan wrote...

It saddens me that after that huge information dump all we have are romance topics. Remember when romances were just an extra feature?

I still consider it an extra feature 

That needs work because it's done poorly

[TiaraBlade]

Personally, I'd rather that not every companion be romanceable by either gender, assuming the numbers allow it. Bioware has created its world to have relatively little issue with same sex relationships which is cool that somehow everyone single LI in DA2 was bisexual (except Sebastian), it's simple not plausible and indeed these characters, except for Isabella, become whatever orientation is needed for hawke's gender which make them a little less real.

DA:O I think worked well where there was three companion LI's for each gender, two whom happened to be bi, as well as other non companions romances or encounters.

Perhaps Bioware could take a page from ME3 where possible LI's exist beyond companions. Heck, perhaps these potential LI's are just straight up gay and the PC can go through a romance where they question what they truly desire vs love.

[cjones91]

greengoron89 wrote...

d4eaming wrote...

By the by, the queer population is likely much higher than 5% or even 10%, as quite a lot of people identify on a spectrum rather than at either end, plus you are ignoring all the transfolk, and the stealth-trans that you'll never know used to be the other gender.

We're out there, and there are more of us than you think. That must be frightening.

10% still leaves 90% of the population being straight. Doesn't really change much.

There are more gay and bisexual people than most realize.They just keep their sexuality hidden out of fear for being treated like crap.The Middle Ages had tons of gay/bisexual people but they kept it behind closed doors to avoid being executed.

[sandalisthemaker]

Inquisitor Recon wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...
How DARE I want equal LIs in a game. I mean. THE NERVE.

So equal is a 1:1 ratio, yet the market (human population) in the real world doesn't exist as a 1:1 sexuality ratio. So is equality you getting more attention than everybody else or did I forget to factor in privilege into my math?

This tripe again?

[Inquisitor Recon]

tiktac wrote...
we're out there lying in wait to steal the box art and larger portion of romance subplots out from the noses of poor unsuspecting straight cis men

Now just call me "cis-scum" and you'd be the perfect stereotypical social justice keyboard warrior. Does this make you feel better about all of the starving children in the 3rd world?

[Wheel_of_Fate]

Yeah, Lindsay, it's sad to see all of these people being so frustrated about lacking in real life, that they want to cram their sexuality down the throat of others and ruin a game's integrity.