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[AresKeith]

Honestly, I'd rather the characters themselves show that they have a preference and some show that they aren't interested

[Eragon-]

Rawgrim wrote...

I`d like to pick my characters sexuality, not everyone elses. Its an rpg, not a dating-sim.

And here we go again...

[Steelcan]

AresKeith wrote...

Honestly, I'd rather the characters themselves show that they have a preference and some show that they aren't interested

You are a horrible person

[d4eaming]

LindsayLohan wrote...

Rawgrim wrote...

I`d like to pick my characters sexuality, not everyone elses. Its an rpg, not a dating-sim.

Yes. You have it right. This is why I am against having every character bisexual it cheapens the character. A few things for you social justice warriors.

Because I am against every character being bisexual it does not make me a bigot, I simply think characters should be written with the development in mind and not the sexuality first. I am against cheapening of the character not bisexual or any type of sexuals that are available. Everyone knows crusty and I are homosexual 

Well, seeing as they have said repeatedly that they create the character first, and then decide which ones get to be LIs.... I am not seeing their sexuality as having a massive impact on who they are as a person.

[AresKeith]

Steelcan wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Honestly, I'd rather the characters themselves show that they have a preference and some show that they aren't interested

You are a horrible person

CID is that you?

[Rawgrim]

Ryzaki wrote...

TiaraBlade wrote...
There is s limit to what can be coded of course. The original point is sound in that having everyone be bi doesn't synch up with "reality" or more succiently "plausability."

Dragon Age is not realistic with dragons, magic, etc.... however it constructs a reality that we accept as real. As long as it stays consistent with these rules, we accept it. At that point, the game must remain plausable, consistent with the world's rules and our own knowledge of how people act.

If the inquistor finds the final villain and the villian, after all their schemes, shrugs his or her shoulders, and gives up, the spell is broken and we immediately say, "whoa, that doesn't make sense!" Because it's not plausibile that someone who engineers all of this, all that effort, would just give up.

Same thing with every love interest swinging both ways; in the real world that doesn't happen and that reality informs our take on Thedas unless contradicted by world building that states that in this world, everyone is bisexual. Even then, it's SO different from our reality that many would have a hard time excepting it, just as we would have a hard time accepting a scene where dark spawn break into a house and the family invites them to tea. it doesn't consist with basic human reality.

You wanna know whatelse isn't real or plausible that's in the dragon age games? Dragons, demons, drinking darkspawn blood making you a warden. Shapeshifting, crazy dragon cults where they get special powers from drinking said blood (instead of just getting sick). Dragons with thin ass wings carrying their ****** bodies. PHYSICS. GRAVITY. Darkspawn hordes. Blood magic (and magic period). Elves + humans = Elves (is their any species on earth that can reproduce with something that doesn't create a half breed of itself?) seriously how the **** does that work? Shouldn't they just not be able to have kids with anything other than elves? Oh wait magic. The veil. So on and so forth.

Also you neglect to realize that DA doesn't have the same bias against sexuality that we have. So that right there would result in several very real differences.

That every LI ends up being a whooping 4 people. I know four bisexual people. That's not implausible to me. What's implausible to me is a group of nine people 3 of them mages, one's a bloodmage elf that was training to be keeper, the other is a escaped circle mage possessed by a spirit and the other is a Hawke and they all convienently meet in Kirkwall or around it.

So yeah the whole damn plot of the DA games tends to go against human reality god I hate that arguement.

They arn`t bisexual. Gaider said their sexualities change based on the player`s gender. Meaning the player is a sexuall Mary-Sue that makes people around him switch sexualities just by being there.

[Ryzaki]

greengoron89 wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

That every LI ends up being a whooping 4 people. I know four bisexual people. That's not implausible to me. What's implausible to me is a group of nine people 3 of them mages, one's a bloodmage elf that was training to be keeper, the other is a escaped circle mage possessed by a spirit and the other is a Hawke and they all convienently meet in Kirkwall or around it.

But you already had four "bisexual" LIs in a Dragon Age game. What more can you ask for?

And you already had straight and bisexual LIs in a Dragon Age game. What more can you ask for? Heck you had straight and bisexual LIs in Jade Empire too and only straight LIs in Mass Effect 2, BG2, AND NWN. I got 1 game.

I mean really how greedy of me right? 

Modifié par Ryzaki, 08 septembre 2013 - 02:19 .

[Mr.House]

AresKeith wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Honestly, I'd rather the characters themselves show that they have a preference and some show that they aren't interested

You are a horrible person

CID is that you?

If he can ravage my body then yes.

[ObserverStatus]

Rawgrim wrote...
I`d like to pick my characters sexuality, not everyone elses. Its an rpg, not a dating-sim.

Do they actually make dating sims where you can pick the characters sexuality? In the ones I've played, The player is always female and all the LIs are male.

[AresKeith]

d4eaming wrote...

LindsayLohan wrote...

Rawgrim wrote...

I`d like to pick my characters sexuality, not everyone elses. Its an rpg, not a dating-sim.

Yes. You have it right. This is why I am against having every character bisexual it cheapens the character. A few things for you social justice warriors.

Because I am against every character being bisexual it does not make me a bigot, I simply think characters should be written with the development in mind and not the sexuality first. I am against cheapening of the character not bisexual or any type of sexuals that are available. Everyone knows crusty and I are homosexual 

Well, seeing as they have said repeatedly that they create the character first, and then decide which ones get to be LIs.... I am not seeing their sexuality as having a massive impact on who they are as a person.

Because people should be allowed to have a preference?

[werewoof]

d4eaming wrote...

LindsayLohan wrote...

Rawgrim wrote...

I`d like to pick my characters sexuality, not everyone elses. Its an rpg, not a dating-sim.

Yes. You have it right. This is why I am against having every character bisexual it cheapens the character. A few things for you social justice warriors.

Because I am against every character being bisexual it does not make me a bigot, I simply think characters should be written with the development in mind and not the sexuality first. I am against cheapening of the character not bisexual or any type of sexuals that are available. Everyone knows crusty and I are homosexual 

Well, seeing as they have said repeatedly that they create the character first, and then decide which ones get to be LIs.... I am not seeing their sexuality as having a massive impact on who they are as a person.

everyone knows that if a character isnt straight, their sexuality was the first thing decided about them. and that its inherently terrible to do so. it is impossible to properly develop a character if they evolve from a desire to be more inclusive. thats the rules of writing totally.

[Rawgrim]

d4eaming wrote...

LindsayLohan wrote...

Rawgrim wrote...

I`d like to pick my characters sexuality, not everyone elses. Its an rpg, not a dating-sim.

Yes. You have it right. This is why I am against having every character bisexual it cheapens the character. A few things for you social justice warriors.

Because I am against every character being bisexual it does not make me a bigot, I simply think characters should be written with the development in mind and not the sexuality first. I am against cheapening of the character not bisexual or any type of sexuals that are available. Everyone knows crusty and I are homosexual 

Well, seeing as they have said repeatedly that they create the character first, and then decide which ones get to be LIs.... I am not seeing their sexuality as having a massive impact on who they are as a person.

It doesn`t have a massive impact on them at all, I agree. But it messes with the immerson and the belivability of the setting, when I as a player, decides NPC`s sexualities.

[sandalisthemaker]

greengoron89 wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

That every LI ends up being a whooping 4 people. I know four bisexual people. That's not implausible to me. What's implausible to me is a group of nine people 3 of them mages, one's a bloodmage elf that was training to be keeper, the other is a escaped circle mage possessed by a spirit and the other is a Hawke and they all convienently meet in Kirkwall or around it.

But you already had four "bisexual" LIs in a Dragon Age game. What more can you ask for?

Four more (at least) in DA:I of course.
What a silly question.

[Ryzaki]

greengoron89 wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

greengoron89 wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

That every LI ends up being a whooping 4 people. I know four bisexual people. That's not implausible to me. What's implausible to me is a group of nine people 3 of them mages, one's a bloodmage elf that was training to be keeper, the other is a escaped circle mage possessed by a spirit and the other is a Hawke and they all convienently meet in Kirkwall or around it.

But you already had four "bisexual" LIs in a Dragon Age game. What more can you ask for?

And you already had straight and bisexual LIs in a Dragon Age game. What more can you ask for?

Naturally. We're the majority of the population.

Again don't care.

I just want LIs available to both genders of players. Instead of having 1 to someone else's 2 or 3. After all you might be the majority of the population (FYI I'm a straight female) but I'm also paying 60 dollars for this game. So yeah I feel free to ask for both LIs available to both genders you in case I want to play my characters that way.,

Modifié par Ryzaki, 08 septembre 2013 - 02:21 .

[Rawgrim]

bobobo878 wrote...

Rawgrim wrote...
I`d like to pick my characters sexuality, not everyone elses. Its an rpg, not a dating-sim.

Do they actually make dating sims where you can pick the characters sexuality? In the ones I've played, The player is always female and all the LIs are male.

No clue. What I meant was "dating-sim"

[sandalisthemaker]

greengoron89 wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

greengoron89 wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

That every LI ends up being a whooping 4 people. I know four bisexual people. That's not implausible to me. What's implausible to me is a group of nine people 3 of them mages, one's a bloodmage elf that was training to be keeper, the other is a escaped circle mage possessed by a spirit and the other is a Hawke and they all convienently meet in Kirkwall or around it.

But you already had four "bisexual" LIs in a Dragon Age game. What more can you ask for?

And you already had straight and bisexual LIs in a Dragon Age game. What more can you ask for?

Naturally. We're the majority of the population.

And here is the root of the problem.

Your sense of entitlement is being attacked. lmao

Modifié par sandalisthemaker, 08 septembre 2013 - 02:21 .

[ObserverStatus]

LindsayLohan wrote...
Everyone knows crusty and I are homosexual 

no you're not, wheel_of_fate is a girl and you're trying to unlock her special heart dialogue.

Modifié par bobobo878, 08 septembre 2013 - 02:23 .

[Ryzaki]

Rawgrim wrote...

They arn`t bisexual. Gaider said their sexualities change based on the player`s gender. Meaning the player is a sexuall Mary-Sue that makes people around him switch sexualities just by being there.

….A player’s choices merely reveal their bisexuality if it exists,
rather than defining it. Take Anders, who will reveal to a male Hawke
his prior involvement with a man named Karl, but neglect to mention it
to a female Hawke.

“No matter who the player is, Karl was always
someone [Anders] was romantically involved with,” says Gaider. “The
part of him the player is exposed to, however, is different. Anders
doesn’t mention Karl to a female Hawke because Jennifer Hepler [Anders’
writer] didn’t think he would — and also because a player who prefers to
think of Anders as straight is welcome to do so.”

Yeah that's your interpretation that doesn't make their sexuality shift.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 08 septembre 2013 - 02:25 .

[Inquisitor Recon]

Ryzaki wrote...
I just feel since there is no possible way whatsoever for them to get the dynamics of a RL relationship realistic with a protagonist that can have different personalities, background and likes with limited dialogue there's no harm in having said LIs for both genders. Oh noes.

I mean really in a video game not having to worry about a LI rejecting you because of your gender instead of the actions you make? My god. The very fabric of our real world society will rip apart if that's not enforced in a video game.

Of course this adds nothing to the game and only makes the romances all the more generic and two dimensional. There is quite simply no good reason for every romance to be bisexual.

sandalisthemaker wrote...
And the fact that you recognize it as such makes you even sadder.

How boring, but I suppose your argument would just consist of crying "bigotry" and "privilege".

[General TSAR]

greengoron89 wrote...

Good riddance. This forum is already congested badly enough with LI threads.

Great minds think alike.

Seraph Cross wrote...

How about we take out LI's altogether? That's a fair and equal ratio

Yep, hell it might even improve the BSN Fourms.

Modifié par General TSAR, 08 septembre 2013 - 02:24 .