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[Am1vf]

d4eaming wrote...
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My longterm goal is to write a series of fabulous high fantasy books into a multi-novel epic that features multiple gay male primary protagonists. I sit in glee at how many people will get pissed off about it.

One of these days, I want to see a AAA game with a gay/lesbian protagonist, and then see many people here that whine about "integrity" would actually play it because it's not catering to their sexual preference.

I would play/read it if it's good. I would probably find the cast more relatable than characters like the Master Chief or Duke Nukem.

[sandalisthemaker]

greengoron89 wrote...

sandalisthemaker wrote...

greengoron89 wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

So if it's good enough for you, screw us then?

You already have LIs available to you in Bioware games.

sandalisthemaker wrote...

And here is the root of the problem.

Your sense of entitlement is being attacked. lmao

I'm not the one demanding Bioware cater to me.

Sure you are.
You want them to do what you want in regards to romance = catering to you.

I don't want them to do anything in regards to romance for me, nor have I stated anything of the sort.

You want the characters to not be playersexual. Yes?

[Hellion Rex]

SO, HOW ABOUT THAT CULLEN?

[Ryzaki]

eluvianix wrote...
To be fair, I thought Gaider said only Isabela and Anders were the only bisexuals. I just watched his talk.

Yeah well please I've been hearing this discussion since DA2 came out. I'm tired of hearing the "but but Hawke changed their sexuality!!!!"

[werewoof]

eluvianix wrote...

SO, HOW ABOUT THAT CULLEN?

no thank you, i got my eyes on iron bull 

[sandalisthemaker]

eluvianix wrote...

SO, HOW ABOUT THAT CULLEN?

Bisexual romance option of course.

[werewoof]

Am1_vf wrote...

d4eaming wrote...
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My longterm goal is to write a series of fabulous high fantasy books into a multi-novel epic that features multiple gay male primary protagonists. I sit in glee at how many people will get pissed off about it.

One of these days, I want to see a AAA game with a gay/lesbian protagonist, and then see many people here that whine about "integrity" would actually play it because it's not catering to their sexual preference.

I would play/read it if it's good. I would probably find the cast more relatable than characters like the Master Chief or Duke Nukem.

their idea sounds pretty sweet but in all fairness i think a cardboard box is more relatable than master chief

Modifié par tiktac, 08 septembre 2013 - 02:31 .

[d4eaming]

eluvianix wrote...

SO, HOW ABOUT THAT CULLEN?

I want to romance him with my male qunari mage. I'd love to see how wide open that blows his world. Hah!

[Ryzaki]

AresKeith wrote...

Honestly, I'd rather the characters themselves show that they have a preference and some show that they aren't interested

I would actually prefer this be based off actions rather than gender.

A douche canoe shouldn't be able to avoid dragging this/her LI to where he/she is being a douchecanoe and said LI despite being the kind of person taht would DESPISE protag bumping uglies. I hope this is fixed in DAI cause yeah that was stupid.

My white knight should not have been able to romance Morrigan.

(Hilariously the one Morrigan was keen to claw off pants was my doucehbag Mage and he started running away the second she started talking about love. HA)

[Inquisitor Recon]

Please tell me how entitled and privileged I am, I find it hilarious. Yes I am "privileged" for thinking a game developer should recognize the reality of the market, how terrible of me.

Does anybody have an argument for this that doesn't consist of repeating "inclusion", "progression" and "fairness" repeatedly?

It's odd how you guys can somehow mentally reconcile crying about "representation" with making everybody bisexual.

[Rawgrim]

lady_v23 wrote...

TiaraBlade wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Inquisitor Recon wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...
How DARE I want equal LIs in a game. I mean. THE NERVE.

So equal is a 1:1 ratio, yet the market (human population) in the real world doesn't exist as a 1:1 sexuality ratio. So is equality you getting more attention than everybody else or did I forget to factor in privilege into my math?

OMG OMG OMG

You mean...real life isn't equal to a video game?

NO WAY.

You make the mistake in assuming I care about real life stats for video game romances. I don't. In RL you get a heck lot more than 2 or 3 people to "woo" and alot of them reject the hell out of you. RL has far too many relationship variables for them to be meaningfully and realistically put in a video game.

There is s limit to what can be coded of course. The original point is sound in that having everyone be bi doesn't synch up with "reality" or more succiently "plausability."

Dragon Age is not realistic with dragons, magic, etc.... however it constructs a reality that we accept as real. As long as it stays consistent with these rules, we accept it. At that point, the game must remain plausable, consistent with the world's rules and our own knowledge of how people act.

If the inquistor finds the final villain and the villian, after all their schemes, shrugs his or her shoulders, and gives up, the spell is broken and we immediately say, "whoa, that doesn't make sense!" Because it's not plausibile that someone who engineers all of this, all that effort, would just give up.

Same thing with every love interest swinging both ways; in the real world that doesn't happen and that reality informs our take on Thedas unless contradicted by world building that states that in this world, everyone is bisexual. Even then, it's SO different from our reality that many would have a hard time excepting it, just as we would have a hard time accepting a scene where dark spawn break into a house and the family invites them to tea. it doesn't consist with basic human reality.

Wait so having everyone "bi" is not plausible.  But magic, elf, dragons, demons, griffins, quanari is very much.  Because this is a FANTASY GAME, but everyone being "bi" is way too unrealistic! forgetting the fact that Vivienne freaking teleports..

Who are you to tell what is plausible and what is not in video game that focuses on fantasy?

and a correction for you.  It is not everyone being bi. learn what people mean when they say they want player-sexuality.

Dragons and magic excist in Thedas. Its part of the setting, and it is all explained. Therefore that is real within the frames of the dragon age world. "Realism within an unrealistic setting", i belive its called. If they suddenly introduce a cellphone into the mix, it becomes unrealistic.

Everyone magically changing sexuality, for no good reason other than the player wishing it, messes with alot of things, and it becomes "unrealistic" within the frames of the setting.

[Hellion Rex]

tiktac wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

SO, HOW ABOUT THAT CULLEN?

no thank you, i got my eyes on iron bull 

Haha actually Iron Bull is mine  I was just trying to change the subject a little bit.

[AresKeith]

General TSAR wrote...

AresKeith wrote...
Honestly, I'd rather the characters themselves show that they have a preference and some show that they aren't interested

Honestly I don't understand why some people are up in arms with this statement.

I also feel Varric and Grey Warden shouldn't be romanceable, and Iron Bull atleast be restricted to qunari PC 

*shrugs*

[Ryzaki]

eluvianix wrote...

SO, HOW ABOUT THAT CULLEN?

I want to pluck his eyelashes and put them in a jar.

[Mr.House]

sandalisthemaker wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

SO, HOW ABOUT THAT CULLEN?

Bisexual romance option of course.

No.

[Hellion Rex]

sandalisthemaker wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

SO, HOW ABOUT THAT CULLEN?

Bisexual romance option of course.

But of course!!!

[General TSAR]

eluvianix wrote...

SO, HOW ABOUT THAT CULLEN?

He's a disgrace to the Order.

[sandalisthemaker]

greengoron89 wrote...

sandalisthemaker wrote...

You want the characters to not be playersexual. Yes?

Doesn't bother me. I just want to know how people could possibly demand more when equal representation for LIs has already been achieved.

What just once?
Please.

[werewoof]

greengoron89 wrote...

sandalisthemaker wrote...

You want the characters to not be playersexual. Yes?

Doesn't bother me. I just want to know how people could possibly demand more when equal representation for LIs has already been achieved.

well, yknow, theres the eons of oppression and erasure but uhhhh

thats nothing

clearly 

[Zjarcal]

Rawgrim wrote...

They arn`t bisexual. Gaider said their sexualities change based on the player`s gender. Meaning the player is a sexuall Mary-Sue that makes people around him switch sexualities just by being there.

When did he say that? If anything, this post is pretty much him saying the exact opposite (second part specifically):

http://social.biowar...51322/5#6959410

[Ryzaki]

Rawgrim wrote...
Dragons and magic excist in Thedas. Its part of the setting, and it is all explained. Therefore that is real within the frames of the dragon age world. "Realism within an unrealistic setting", i belive its called. If they suddenly introduce a cellphone into the mix, it becomes unrealistic.

Everyone magically changing sexuality, for no good reason other than the player wishing it, messes with alot of things, and it becomes "unrealistic" within the frames of the setting.

You wanna know what else is part of the setting? People not feeling like **** thanks to dogmatic religions (and no this is not all religions before someone jumps down my throat) because they're not straight. So yeah that'd have an impact on people expressing sexuality.

[Hellion Rex]

Mr.House wrote...

sandalisthemaker wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

SO, HOW ABOUT THAT CULLEN?

Bisexual romance option of course.

No.

And who are you deny me that templar? My male mage is going to corrupt that pure little chantry boy. 

[sandalisthemaker]

LindsayLohan wrote...

How about dat Mailbox LI?

Fail