sandalisthemaker wrote...
Mr.House wrote...
And like always, the bsn proves to me that who the **** cares about sexulity unless they are a lesbian like Sam THEN IT'S AGAINST LAW TO MAKE HER BI OR STRAIGHT.
No one has said anything of the sort.
LindsayLohan wrote...
Ryzaki wrote...
LindsayLohan wrote...
sandalisthemaker wrote...
Inquisitor Recon wrote...
Yes you were, that's why she left you, but you need to pick yourself up and move on. You can't keep stalking her like this.
You still here?
He is speaking the truth. I don't love you like I did. This is for the best sandal. I am sorry.
I hate your name because now I'm thinking about that stupid Miley Cyrus VMA performance and that picture showing her ass compared to a raw turkey.
I have to ask you a question buddy. Would you still hit it? I know I would even though Miley came out look like Cynthia from the rugrats tbh. Wait is she legal?
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Palidane wrote...
I think this thread is getting a little hostile toward straight white males. I would like to ask that we all give each other the benefit of the doubt, and not assume someone who disagrees with you is a militant homophobe/hetero-phobe(?).
Ryzaki wrote...
Rawgrim wrote...
Nobody in the game is harassing peope for their sexualities. We are talking about the game here. Nodoby is bashing any sexualities at all. Just the fact that its not very belivable that 100 percent of the love interests in the game are player-sexual+bisexual. Nobody is asking to remove bisexuality either. Just that there should be an equal mix of all sexualities. Nobody is left out, and the characters feels more "real".
Point...
Your head...
I'm saying in a fictional world where people aren't lamblasted by their sexuality more people might be openly something other than straight. Full stop. Thus why the comparisons to RL sexuality fall flat.
Compared to the world we have know where if you dare not be straight you get several different groups telling you how disgusting you are and how you're going to hell and have to worry about losing friendships and family over it.
Guest_LindsayLohan_*
Ryzaki wrote...
LindsayLohan wrote...
Ryzaki wrote...
LindsayLohan wrote...
sandalisthemaker wrote...
Inquisitor Recon wrote...
Yes you were, that's why she left you, but you need to pick yourself up and move on. You can't keep stalking her like this.
You still here?
He is speaking the truth. I don't love you like I did. This is for the best sandal. I am sorry.
I hate your name because now I'm thinking about that stupid Miley Cyrus VMA performance and that picture showing her ass compared to a raw turkey.
I have to ask you a question buddy. Would you still hit it? I know I would even though Miley came out look like Cynthia from the rugrats tbh. Wait is she legal?
Female. Hell no. I'd go gay for five women and Cyrus damn sure isn't one of them.
Mr.House wrote...
And like always, the bsn proves to me that who the **** cares about sexulity unless they are a lesbian like Sam THEN IT'S AGAINST LAW TO MAKE HER BI OR STRAIGHT.
As long as I can pork that person, who cares about consistency and established facts? Had sex.
Rawgrim wrote...
lady_v23 wrote...
Rawgrim wrote...
lady_v23 wrote...
but they are not changing sexuality? for example. when you played DA2. And lets say you romanced Merrill with a male hawke. You're assuming she's straight because she is with your, very much male, hawke. She never tells you she's straight. Same if you romanced Merrill with a female hawke. You would assume she's a lesbian because she's into you.Rawgrim wrote...
lady_v23 wrote...
TiaraBlade wrote...
Ryzaki wrote...
Inquisitor Recon wrote...
So equal is a 1:1 ratio, yet the market (human population) in the real world doesn't exist as a 1:1 sexuality ratio. So is equality you getting more attention than everybody else or did I forget to factor in privilege into my math?Ryzaki wrote...
How DARE I want equal LIs in a game. I mean. THE NERVE.
OMG OMG OMG
You mean...real life isn't equal to a video game?
NO WAY.
You make the mistake in assuming I care about real life stats for video game romances. I don't. In RL you get a heck lot more than 2 or 3 people to "woo" and alot of them reject the hell out of you. RL has far too many relationship variables for them to be meaningfully and realistically put in a video game.
There is s limit to what can be coded of course. The original point is sound in that having everyone be bi doesn't synch up with "reality" or more succiently "plausability."
Dragon Age is not realistic with dragons, magic, etc.... however it constructs a reality that we accept as real. As long as it stays consistent with these rules, we accept it. At that point, the game must remain plausable, consistent with the world's rules and our own knowledge of how people act.
If the inquistor finds the final villain and the villian, after all their schemes, shrugs his or her shoulders, and gives up, the spell is broken and we immediately say, "whoa, that doesn't make sense!" Because it's not plausibile that someone who engineers all of this, all that effort, would just give up.
Same thing with every love interest swinging both ways; in the real world that doesn't happen and that reality informs our take on Thedas unless contradicted by world building that states that in this world, everyone is bisexual. Even then, it's SO different from our reality that many would have a hard time excepting it, just as we would have a hard time accepting a scene where dark spawn break into a house and the family invites them to tea. it doesn't consist with basic human reality.
Wait so having everyone "bi" is not plausible. But magic, elf, dragons, demons, griffins, quanari is very much. Because this is a FANTASY GAME, but everyone being "bi" is way too unrealistic! forgetting the fact that Vivienne freaking teleports..
Who are you to tell what is plausible and what is not in video game that focuses on fantasy?
and a correction for you. It is not everyone being bi. learn what people mean when they say they want player-sexuality.
Dragons and magic excist in Thedas. Its part of the setting, and it is all explained. Therefore that is real within the frames of the dragon age world. "Realism within an unrealistic setting", i belive its called. If they suddenly introduce a cellphone into the mix, it becomes unrealistic.
Everyone magically changing sexuality, for no good reason other than the player wishing it, messes with alot of things, and it becomes "unrealistic" within the frames of the setting.
that is what player sexuality is NOT making everyone "bi". Therefore how exactly is player sexuality. not plausible in a game where magic in the norm.
Because a warrior or a rogue can`t use magic, and no spell is being cast by the mage to make this happen.
.right.
Arcane warrior. Since I can wear armor, fight with swords and be as strong as a warrior. I'm pretty sure that statement is false.
Does the arcane warrior have a "change sexuality" spell? No? Ok then.
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Because it's cool to hate on white males these days. You don't argue with the cool kids from da block man.Palidane wrote...
I think this thread is getting a little hostile toward straight white males. I would like to ask that we all give each other the benefit of the doubt, and not assume someone who disagrees with you is a militant homophobe/hetero-phobe(?).
wolfhowwl wrote...
Ryzaki wrote...
Mr.House wrote...
And like always, the bsn proves to me that who the **** cares about sexulity unless they are a lesbian like Sam THEN IT'S AGAINST LAW TO MAKE HER BI OR STRAIGHT.
As long as I can pork that person, who cares about consistency and established facts? Had sex.
Honestly I'd been pissed if Sam was straight because ManShep didn't need anymore damn romance options.
Seriously the LI amount was so lopsided in MShep's favor (especially hetero MShep's favor) it was laughable.
Poor heterosexual femshep...
AutumnWitch wrote...
lady_v23 wrote...
but they are not changing sexuality? for example. when you played DA2. And lets say you romanced Merrill with a male hawke. You're assuming she's straight because she is with your, very much male, hawke. She never tells you she's straight. Same if you romanced Merrill with a female hawke. You would assume she's a lesbian because she's into you.Rawgrim wrote...
lady_v23 wrote...
TiaraBlade wrote...
Ryzaki wrote...
Inquisitor Recon wrote...
So equal is a 1:1 ratio, yet the market (human population) in the real world doesn't exist as a 1:1 sexuality ratio. So is equality you getting more attention than everybody else or did I forget to factor in privilege into my math?Ryzaki wrote...
How DARE I want equal LIs in a game. I mean. THE NERVE.
OMG OMG OMG
You mean...real life isn't equal to a video game?
NO WAY.
You make the mistake in assuming I care about real life stats for video game romances. I don't. In RL you get a heck lot more than 2 or 3 people to "woo" and alot of them reject the hell out of you. RL has far too many relationship variables for them to be meaningfully and realistically put in a video game.
There is s limit to what can be coded of course. The original point is sound in that having everyone be bi doesn't synch up with "reality" or more succiently "plausability."
Dragon Age is not realistic with dragons, magic, etc.... however it constructs a reality that we accept as real. As long as it stays consistent with these rules, we accept it. At that point, the game must remain plausable, consistent with the world's rules and our own knowledge of how people act.
If the inquistor finds the final villain and the villian, after all their schemes, shrugs his or her shoulders, and gives up, the spell is broken and we immediately say, "whoa, that doesn't make sense!" Because it's not plausibile that someone who engineers all of this, all that effort, would just give up.
Same thing with every love interest swinging both ways; in the real world that doesn't happen and that reality informs our take on Thedas unless contradicted by world building that states that in this world, everyone is bisexual. Even then, it's SO different from our reality that many would have a hard time excepting it, just as we would have a hard time accepting a scene where dark spawn break into a house and the family invites them to tea. it doesn't consist with basic human reality.
Wait so having everyone "bi" is not plausible. But magic, elf, dragons, demons, griffins, quanari is very much. Because this is a FANTASY GAME, but everyone being "bi" is way too unrealistic! forgetting the fact that Vivienne freaking teleports..
Who are you to tell what is plausible and what is not in video game that focuses on fantasy?
and a correction for you. It is not everyone being bi. learn what people mean when they say they want player-sexuality.
Dragons and magic excist in Thedas. Its part of the setting, and it is all explained. Therefore that is real within the frames of the dragon age world. "Realism within an unrealistic setting", i belive its called. If they suddenly introduce a cellphone into the mix, it becomes unrealistic.
Everyone magically changing sexuality, for no good reason other than the player wishing it, messes with alot of things, and it becomes "unrealistic" within the frames of the setting.
that is what player sexuality is NOT making everyone "bi". Therefore how exactly is player sexuality. not plausible in a game where magic in the norm.
I love when people use the "its unrealistic" in a fantasy magic game,, They dont care that there is magic being used, They dont care that warriors/rogues skills/talenst break every law of physics, they don't mind that dragons and werewolves are wandering around, etc,. etc, etc but make people BISEXUAL!!!! (not they really arent anyway) but OMG thats just not possible! You are destroying my suspension of disbelief! !!!!!
I has pistachiosdreamgazer wrote...
(grabs popcorn)
It's actually pretty funny how similar this constant keyboard warfare over character sexuality is to "The Superhuman Gambit" from Fallout 3. Every day the hilariously impotent AntAgonizer would attack Canterbury Commons, and the righteous Mechanist would be there to meet her in glorious battle. They would always speak of how their battles would decide the fate of the world, but they never seemed to realize that they were fighting over a run down little street in the middle of nowhere. All they ever really accomplished was scaring away merchants and providing free entertainment to the locals.eluvianix wrote...
Nope, this is a regular night on the BSN.Hi my name is Ryan wrote...
Am I on Tumblr right now?sandalisthemaker wrote...
And here is the root of the problem.
Your sense of entitlement is being attacked. lmao
Mr.House wrote...
Of course they don't confirm anything to oyu,
get pissed when a mod that turned Sam/Steve bi is released.
Rawgrim wrote...
Ryzaki wrote...
Rawgrim wrote...
Nobody in the game is harassing peope for their sexualities. We are talking about the game here. Nodoby is bashing any sexualities at all. Just the fact that its not very belivable that 100 percent of the love interests in the game are player-sexual+bisexual. Nobody is asking to remove bisexuality either. Just that there should be an equal mix of all sexualities. Nobody is left out, and the characters feels more "real".
Point...
Your head...
I'm saying in a fictional world where people aren't lamblasted by their sexuality more people might be openly something other than straight. Full stop. Thus why the comparisons to RL sexuality fall flat.
Compared to the world we have know where if you dare not be straight you get several different groups telling you how disgusting you are and how you're going to hell and have to worry about losing friendships and family over it.
I am not disputing that people in Thedas express different sexualities. Never did. Its just not plausable that everyone thats into a certain character just happens to all be bisexual. Its just catering, nothing else.
Nothing disgusting about being gay. If you have lost friends or family over it, I am sorry to hear it.
Rawgrim wrote...
I am not disputing that people in Thedas express different sexualities. Never did. Its just not plausable that everyone thats into a certain character just happens to all be bisexual. Its just catering, nothing else.
Nothing disgusting about being gay. If you have lost friends or family over it, I am sorry to hear it.
I'm straight up downing the alcohol. My boyfriend is typing.Steelcan wrote...
I has pistachiosdreamgazer wrote...
(grabs popcorn)
AresKeith wrote...
sandalisthemaker wrote...
Mr.House wrote...
And like always, the bsn proves to me that who the **** cares about sexulity unless they are a lesbian like Sam THEN IT'S AGAINST LAW TO MAKE HER BI OR STRAIGHT.
No one has said anything of the sort.
It's the impression that's being given off
LindsayLohan wrote...
Not even a bit? Just like a quickie?
lady_v23 wrote...
Rawgrim wrote...
Ryzaki wrote...
Rawgrim wrote...
Nobody in the game is harassing peope for their sexualities. We are talking about the game here. Nodoby is bashing any sexualities at all. Just the fact that its not very belivable that 100 percent of the love interests in the game are player-sexual+bisexual. Nobody is asking to remove bisexuality either. Just that there should be an equal mix of all sexualities. Nobody is left out, and the characters feels more "real".
Point...
Your head...
I'm saying in a fictional world where people aren't lamblasted by their sexuality more people might be openly something other than straight. Full stop. Thus why the comparisons to RL sexuality fall flat.
Compared to the world we have know where if you dare not be straight you get several different groups telling you how disgusting you are and how you're going to hell and have to worry about losing friendships and family over it.
I am not disputing that people in Thedas express different sexualities. Never did. Its just not plausable that everyone thats into a certain character just happens to all be bisexual. Its just catering, nothing else.
Nothing disgusting about being gay. If you have lost friends or family over it, I am sorry to hear it.
They. are not. all. bisexual. Come on! say it with me! Everyoneeee isss noooot biiiisexuaaal.
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