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[lady_v23]

[quote]Rawgrim wrote...

[quote]lady_v23 wrote...

[quote]Rawgrim wrote...

[quote]lady_v23 wrote...

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[quote]Ryzaki wrote...

[quote]Inquisitor Recon wrote...

[quote]Ryzaki wrote...
How DARE I want equal LIs in a game. I mean. THE NERVE.
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So equal is a 1:1 ratio, yet the market (human population) in the real world doesn't exist as a 1:1 sexuality ratio. So is equality you getting more attention than everybody else or did I forget to factor in privilege into my math?
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OMG OMG OMG

You mean...real life isn't equal to a video game?

NO WAY.

You make the mistake in assuming I care about real life stats for video game romances. I don't. In RL you get a heck lot more than 2 or 3 people to "woo" and alot of them reject the hell out of you. RL has far too many relationship variables for them to be meaningfully and realistically put in a video game.
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There is s limit to what can be coded of course. The original point is sound in that having everyone be bi doesn't synch up with "reality" or more succiently "plausability."

Dragon Age is not realistic with dragons, magic, etc.... however it constructs a reality that we accept as real. As long as it stays consistent with these rules, we accept it. At that point, the game must remain plausable, consistent with the world's rules and our own knowledge of how people act.

If the inquistor finds the final villain and the villian, after all their schemes, shrugs his or her shoulders, and gives up, the spell is broken and we immediately say, "whoa, that doesn't make sense!" Because it's not plausibile that someone who engineers all of this, all that effort, would just give up.

Same thing with every love interest swinging both ways; in the real world that doesn't happen and that reality informs our take on Thedas unless contradicted by world building that states that in this world, everyone is bisexual. Even then, it's SO different from our reality that many would have a hard time excepting it, just as we would have a hard time accepting a scene where dark spawn break into a house and the family invites them to tea. it doesn't consist with basic human reality.





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Wait so having everyone "bi" is not plausible.  But magic, elf, dragons, demons, griffins, quanari is very much.  Because this is a FANTASY GAME, but everyone being "bi" is way too unrealistic! forgetting the fact that Vivienne freaking teleports..

Who are you to tell what is plausible and what is not in video game that focuses on fantasy?

and a correction for you.  It is not everyone being bi. learn what people mean when they say they want player-sexuality.


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Dragons and magic excist in Thedas. Its part of the setting, and it is all explained. Therefore that is real within the frames of the dragon age world. "Realism within an unrealistic setting", i belive its called. If they suddenly introduce a cellphone into the mix, it becomes unrealistic.

Everyone magically changing sexuality, for no good reason other than the player wishing it, messes with alot of things, and it becomes "unrealistic" within the frames of the setting.

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but they are not changing sexuality? for example.  when you played DA2.  And lets say you romanced Merrill with a male hawke.  You're assuming she's straight because she is with your, very much male, hawke.  She never tells you she's straight.  Same if you romanced Merrill with a female hawke.  You would assume she's a lesbian because she's into you.

that is what player sexuality is NOT making everyone "bi".  Therefore how exactly is player sexuality.  not plausible in a game where magic in the norm.



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Because a warrior or a rogue can`t use magic, and no spell is being cast by the mage to make this happen.

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.right.

Arcane warrior.  Since I can wear armor, fight with swords and be as strong as a warrior.  I'm pretty sure that statement is false.

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Does the arcane warrior have a "change sexuality" spell? No? Ok then.

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yet you are the one that placed the example of warrior with magic as unrealistic and unlikely as "changing sexuality." . 

and no.  It's not changing sexuality.  I already told you this.  repeatably.



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I did not.  Arcane Warrior is a mage class. Because it uses magic. Its not a warrior class.

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A mage warrior is COMPLETELY different from a warrior mage. 

got it.

[AresKeith]

sandalisthemaker wrote...

By whom?

You?

Why are you trying to point it at me?

Modifié par AresKeith, 08 septembre 2013 - 02:59 .

[Hellion Rex]

Ryzaki wrote...

LindsayLohan wrote...

Not even a bit? Just like a quickie?

NOPE.

She'd probably use that tongue. So not sexy.

You just had to remind me about that lizard in her mouth....:sick:

[Rawgrim]

Ryzaki wrote...

Rawgrim wrote...
I am not disputing that people in Thedas express different sexualities. Never did. Its just not plausable that everyone thats into a certain character just happens to all be bisexual. Its just catering, nothing else.

Nothing disgusting about being gay. If you have lost friends or family over it, I am sorry to hear it.

Plenty of things in the DA universe surronding the companions isn't plausible. It's not like this is the one implausible things amongst of sea of "well this is perfectly common." outcomes.

Not me. My cousin though...

People do want  "belivable combat" as well. Been plenty threads about that too. Its not the topic here, though.

[Eragon-]

dreamgazer wrote...

(grabs popcorn)

You are late to the train-wreck. Btw, did you enjoy Mulholland Drive? Or is that pic the only part of the movie you liked ? 

[lady_v23]

Rawgrim wrote...

lady_v23 wrote...

Rawgrim wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Rawgrim wrote...
Nobody in the game is harassing peope for their sexualities. We are talking about the game here. Nodoby is bashing any sexualities at all. Just the fact that its not very belivable that 100 percent of the love interests in the game are player-sexual+bisexual. Nobody is asking to remove bisexuality either. Just that there should be an equal mix of all sexualities. Nobody is left out, and the characters feels more "real".

Point...

Your head...

I'm saying in a fictional world where people aren't lamblasted by their sexuality more people might be openly something other than straight. Full stop. Thus why the comparisons to RL sexuality fall flat.

Compared to the world we have know where if you dare not be straight you get several different groups telling you how disgusting you are and how you're going to hell and have to worry about losing friendships and family over it.

I am not disputing that people in Thedas express different sexualities. Never did. Its just not plausable that everyone thats into a certain character just happens to all be bisexual. Its just catering, nothing else.

Nothing disgusting about being gay. If you have lost friends or family over it, I am sorry to hear it.

They. are not. all. bisexual.  Come on!  say it with me!  Everyoneeee isss noooot biiiisexuaaal.

Everyone that is into the character. Read carefully. I didn`t say everyone in the world.

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gosh I need break.

[Ryzaki]

eluvianix wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

LindsayLohan wrote...

Not even a bit? Just like a quickie?

NOPE.

She'd probably use that tongue. So not sexy.

You just had to remind me about that lizard in her mouth....:sick:

I'm not the only one suffering.

Good good.

*temples fingers*

[Rawgrim]

greengoron89 wrote...

Palidane wrote...

I think this thread is getting a little hostile toward straight white males. I would like to ask that we all give each other the benefit of the doubt, and not assume someone who disagrees with you is a militant homophobe/hetero-phobe(?).

The "straight white male" is just a whipping boy for smaller demographics to take their misguided rage out on. There are a lot of "straight white males" who harbor no ill will whatsoever towards females, people of color, or gays... but are still villainized as such by virtue of the fact that they're "straight white males."

It's not fair, but that's the current political climate here in the West.

Quite true. Ironic that they use the term "white straight male", I think. The term is actually bashing a sexuality, a gender, and a skincolour all at once hehe.

[Ryzaki]

Rawgrim wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Rawgrim wrote...
I am not disputing that people in Thedas express different sexualities. Never did. Its just not plausable that everyone thats into a certain character just happens to all be bisexual. Its just catering, nothing else.

Nothing disgusting about being gay. If you have lost friends or family over it, I am sorry to hear it.

Plenty of things in the DA universe surronding the companions isn't plausible. It's not like this is the one implausible things amongst of sea of "well this is perfectly common." outcomes.

Not me. My cousin though...

People do want  "belivable combat" as well. Been plenty threads about that too. Its not the topic here, though.

Believable combat would the most boring slow and yet quick thing ever.

I don't mind flashy so much anymore I just rather avoid getting panty shots. Got enough of that with JRPGs.

LindsayLohan wrote...

Would you look at me less If I told you I would hit it? I am desperate and have no standards tbh.

XD

Depends would you do the walk of shame in the morning as you climb out her window? if so acceptable.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 08 septembre 2013 - 03:03 .

[spirosz]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

bobobo878 wrote...

It's actually pretty funny how similar this constant keyboard warfare over character sexuality is to "The Superhuman Gambit" from Fallout 3. Every day the hilariously impotent AntAgonizer would attack Canterbury Commons, and the righteous Mechanist would be there to meet her in glorious battle. They would always speak of how their battles would decide the fate of the world, but they never seemed to realize that they were fighting over a run down little street in the middle of nowhere. All they ever really accomplished was scaring away merchants and providing free entertainment to the locals.

And then the Lone Wanderer BioMod01 comes and stops the fighting by locking down the thread.

[franciscoamell]

Ryzaki wrote...

Seriously that **** was ridculous.

It's not enough she had fewer options to start with oh no. They kill one of her Lis and have the other RANDOMLY CHEAT ON HER AND KNOCK SOME OTHER CHICK UP.

WAT.

I mean WAT.

WHY?

In Thane's case, you should've seen it coming though...

[Hellion Rex]

greengoron89 wrote...

Palidane wrote...

I think this thread is getting a little hostile toward straight white males. I would like to ask that we all give each other the benefit of the doubt, and not assume someone who disagrees with you is a militant homophobe/hetero-phobe(?).

The "straight white male" is just a whipping boy for smaller demographics to take their misguided rage out on. There are a lot of "straight white males" who harbor no ill will whatsoever towards females, people of color, or gays... but are still villainized as such by virtue of the fact that they're "straight white males."

It's not fair, but that's the current political climate here in the West.

Maker, can you complain any more? Minorities deal with just as much sh*t as straight males deal with. Get over yourself.

[ObserverStatus]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

bobobo878 wrote...
It's actually pretty funny how similar this constant keyboard warfare over character sexuality is to "The Superhuman Gambit" from Fallout 3. Every day the hilariously impotent AntAgonizer would attack Canterbury Commons, and the righteous Mechanist would be there to meet her in glorious battle. They would always speak of how their battles would decide the fate of the world, but they never seemed to realize that they were fighting over a run down little street in the middle of nowhere. All they ever really accomplished was scaring away merchants and providing free entertainment to the locals.

And then the Lone Wanderer BioMod01 comes and stops the fighting by locking down the thread.

But that's just the thing, the Mechanist and the AntAgonizer just keep respawning and keeping at it.

[dreamgazer]

Eragon- wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

(grabs popcorn)

You are late to the train-wreck. Btw, did you enjoy Mulholland Drive? Or is that pic the only part of the movie you liked ? 

Personal favorite of mine. 

And I'm on my way back a few pages. "If I haven't seen it, it's new to me!"

[Hellion Rex]

spirosz wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

bobobo878 wrote...

It's actually pretty funny how similar this constant keyboard warfare over character sexuality is to "The Superhuman Gambit" from Fallout 3. Every day the hilariously impotent AntAgonizer would attack Canterbury Commons, and the righteous Mechanist would be there to meet her in glorious battle. They would always speak of how their battles would decide the fate of the world, but they never seemed to realize that they were fighting over a run down little street in the middle of nowhere. All they ever really accomplished was scaring away merchants and providing free entertainment to the locals.

And then the Lone Wanderer BioMod01 comes and stops the fighting by locking down the thread.

*snip*

Don't even joke about that. They see all:alien:

[werewoof]

greengoron89 wrote...

Palidane wrote...

I think this thread is getting a little hostile toward straight white males. I would like to ask that we all give each other the benefit of the doubt, and not assume someone who disagrees with you is a militant homophobe/hetero-phobe(?).

The "straight white male" is just a whipping boy for smaller demographics to take their misguided rage out on. There are a lot of "straight white males" who harbor no ill will whatsoever towards females, people of color, or gays... but are still villainized as such by virtue of the fact that they're "straight white males."

It's not fair, but that's the current political climate here in the West.

[Ryzaki]

franciscoamell wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Seriously that **** was ridculous.

It's not enough she had fewer options to start with oh no. They kill one of her Lis and have the other RANDOMLY CHEAT ON HER AND KNOCK SOME OTHER CHICK UP.

WAT.

I mean WAT.

WHY?

In Thane's case, you should've seen it coming though...

Not the way it happened though.

Throwing himself on Kai Leng's sword was a special kind of stupid.

(that and I though BW would give FemShep Vega or Joker to keep it balanced. NOPE).

Modifié par Ryzaki, 08 septembre 2013 - 03:04 .

[Mr.House]

franciscoamell wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Seriously that **** was ridculous.

It's not enough she had fewer options to start with oh no. They kill one of her Lis and have the other RANDOMLY CHEAT ON HER AND KNOCK SOME OTHER CHICK UP.

WAT.

I mean WAT.

WHY?

In Thane's case, you should've seen it coming though...

I didn't know Thane got an IQ of -600 and thought running with a gun at a dude who has a sword was coming.

[sandalisthemaker]

greengoron89 wrote...

Palidane wrote...

I think this thread is getting a little hostile toward straight white males. I would like to ask that we all give each other the benefit of the doubt, and not assume someone who disagrees with you is a militant homophobe/hetero-phobe(?).

The "straight white male" is just a whipping boy for smaller demographics to take their misguided rage out on. There are a lot of "straight white males" who harbor no ill will whatsoever towards females, people of color, or gays... but are still villainized as such by virtue of the fact that they're "straight white males."

It's not fair, but that's the current political climate here in the West.

That these "smaller demographics" are slowly getting a more equal share is somehow threatening to your sensibilities?

[franciscoamell]

Ryzaki wrote...

franciscoamell wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Seriously that **** was ridculous.

It's not enough she had fewer options to start with oh no. They kill one of her Lis and have the other RANDOMLY CHEAT ON HER AND KNOCK SOME OTHER CHICK UP.

WAT.

I mean WAT.

WHY?

In Thane's case, you should've seen it coming though...

Not the way it happened though.

Throwing himself on Kai Leng's sword was a special kind of stupid.

Well, yeah, but it was still pretty obvious he'd die sooner or later.