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Rawgrim wrote...

(who is Sam?)

Samantha Traynor, from ME3. She was a female only romance.

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Filament wrote...

I'd agree, but you haven't seen those threads for the "make Sam bi" mod.


Neither have I, thank the Maker.

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AresKeith wrote...

Honestly, I'd rather we have an equal set of LIs with the characters themselves show that they have a preference and some show that they aren't interested

This is what should happen, won't happen though because oft he people who want to bang everything that moves.

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They are not the ones who whine whenever the other group asks for equal representation.

Nah, just the ones who start attacking the "majority" for whatever reason.

I can see why the term "straight white male" was established but not why it's used as it is. That's just childish.

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franciscoamell wrote...

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Well, yeah, but it was still pretty obvious he'd die sooner or later.


I was hoping for later. Plus the guy had HOPE (thanks the SB files). So the devs didn't *have* to kill him. (And they sure in hell didn't need to put in that Jacob BS).

Yeah, Jacob got a terrible treatment. Like the guy needed even less fans... <_< I love how you can slap him in Citadel though. 

And I actually think it's nice to have some romances ending badly, I just wish straight femshep wouldn't be so screwed. I guess straight maleshep could've had one or two romances not ending happily (I'd be so sad if Jack was the one though :( her cameo was small enough).


The jacob crap wouldn't have bothered me so much if it wasn't

A. Complete Bull****
B. Insulting to ALL the characters involved
C. Decent foreshadowing
or 
D. Had a equivelent with one of the female LIs.

But nope has NONE of those. It comes out of ****ing NOWHERE, is complete bollocks, and all the characters act like laughable renditions of themselves.

Also where is renedouche Shep's option to punch Jacob in his cheating face? She's killed people for less! And yes Shep can be childish (especially renedouche). Doesn't help that Brynn's a complete ass. I just. URGH.

And the cheery on the **** pie is ALL of MShep's LI are loyal to him to the end. Just...SERIOUSLY. It's not even like Jacob and FemShep were seperated for a long time or he had no idea where the hell she was. It's just so damn stupid and bad and rage inducing and UGH.

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franciscoamell wrote...

Rawgrim wrote...

(who is Sam?)

Samantha Traynor, Shepard's secretary in ME3.


Ahh. I only romanced Liara in that series. Aparantly it was a smart thing to be faithful to your love interest, they said. Didn`t notice any "bonus" for it.

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No offense Ryzaki, ummm maybe stick to DA stuff, not ME?

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devSin wrote...

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Yet it does seem that if you don't play from that POV, everyone really has the same amount of options regardless.

Unless you're a non-gay person who wants to play a gay character? Then you have no option (or fewer options).

I don't think many people are saying that 2+2+2 would be bad, but as far as we've been told, it's mostly fantasy. So the choice is either 2+2 inclusive, or possibly 2+2 exclusive (one gay and one straight of each gender)—which is also unrealistic, since they would likely never deprive the straight audience of choice in that way.

It is fewer options than some alternatives, yes, that is true. But it's not less options than anyone else playing the game as it is.

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Rawgrim wrote...

(who is Sam?)


Samantha Traynor someone who didn't need to be another LI for Mshep who already had goddamned 9 of them.

eluvianix wrote...

Feel the ship!!!!!:devil::devil::devil:


XD

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tiktac wrote...

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Rawgrim wrote...

wolfhowwl wrote...

Everyone using the term "straight white male" has been reported for unacceptable hate speech and account bans have been requested.

In the future I hope you consider not using such hurtful, bigoted language in a forum that is dedicated to positive and friendly discussion on the upcoming Dragon Age: Inquisition game.

Thank you.


Technically, you are right. A sexuality and a skincolour IS being tossed out in a derogatory way. Even the devs do it sometimes.


:o:lol::lol:... wait, you're kidding, right? No? Then I'm sorry I don't have enough emoticons to laugh at that.

(And I am very straight, very white and pale, and male with a thick beard to prove it)


this is genuinely one of the most amusing threads i have ever been involved in

i'm going to mix all these oppressed straight white male tears into my coffee, care to join me?


I've saved the "opressed white male alert" picture and I think I might print some cards or something :lol: I don't know what yet but I have to use it for something.

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Trista Hawke wrote...

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I'm a straight white guy.

And I love everybody, but happen to love women in a much, much more intimate (and sometimes perverse) capacity.

With that in mind, I support the OP. Female gamers deserve more LI options than they usually get.

All I want is for Cassandra and Vivienne to be LIs. :)

/voice of reason attempt 1


 

+ 50 points for being fair and logical. 


Ooh, cunning ploy for the original thread topic. Colour me red faced for ignoring it!

Yes, absolutely, make the male/female LI options balanced, avoid the ME3 problem. At least here they're not carrying the baggage of 2 previous installments locking themselves in to a problematic set of options. Not in the LI side of things at least. Given the previous 2 DA games I'm hopeful they'll come through here.

I'd rather see no more than 4 options from a cast of 9 companions, but that's a minor personal preferance. Limit the number of people I have to say 'No.', 'Maker no' and ' Someone get them off me!' to in one playthrough.

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Ryzaki wrote...

Rawgrim wrote...

(who is Sam?)


Samantha Traynor someone who didn't need to be another LI for Mshep who already had goddamned 9 of them.

eluvianix wrote...

Feel the ship!!!!!:devil::devil::devil:


XD

Somebody's bitter.:lol:

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Ryzaki wrote...

franciscoamell wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

franciscoamell wrote...
Well, yeah, but it was still pretty obvious he'd die sooner or later.


I was hoping for later. Plus the guy had HOPE (thanks the SB files). So the devs didn't *have* to kill him. (And they sure in hell didn't need to put in that Jacob BS).

Yeah, Jacob got a terrible treatment. Like the guy needed even less fans... <_< I love how you can slap him in Citadel though. 

And I actually think it's nice to have some romances ending badly, I just wish straight femshep wouldn't be so screwed. I guess straight maleshep could've had one or two romances not ending happily (I'd be so sad if Jack was the one though :( her cameo was small enough).


The jacob crap wouldn't have bothered me so much if it wasn't

A. Complete Bull****
B. Insulting to ALL the characters involved
C. Decent foreshadowing
or 
D. Had a equivelent with one of the female LIs.

But nope has NONE of those. It comes out of ****ing NOWHERE, is complete bollocks, and all the characters act like laughable renditions of themselves.

Also where is renedouche Shep's option to punch Jacob in his cheating face? She's killed people for less! And yes Shep can be childish (especially renedouche). Doesn't help that Brynn's a complete ass. I just. URGH.

And the cheery on the **** pie is ALL of MShep's LI are loyal to him to the end. Just...SERIOUSLY. It's not even like Jacob and FemShep were seperated for a long time or he had no idea where the hell she was. It's just so damn stupid and bad and rage inducing and UGH.


Should I call for an ambulance ? I don't think you are gonna last much longer :lol:

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Jayne126 wrote...

cjones91 wrote...

They are not the ones who whine whenever the other group asks for equal representation.

Nah, just the ones who start attacking the "majority" for whatever reason.

I can see why the term "straight white male" was established but not why it's used as it is. That's just childish.

Well when the majority starts telling others how they can't have the same things they enjoy because of some childish reason, then I don't blame folks when they start attacking the majority.

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Ryzaki wrote...

Rawgrim wrote...

(who is Sam?)


Samantha Traynor someone who didn't need to be another LI for Mshep who already had goddamned 9 of them.

eluvianix wrote...

Feel the ship!!!!!:devil::devil::devil:


XD


I played FemShep all the way. Better voice actor. Started playing the guy, but he sounded too boring.

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I just want nugs to romance. I couldn't care less about the humans so it doesn't matter to me if they're even included as LI's

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Ryzaki wrote...

Rawgrim wrote...

(who is Sam?)


Samantha Traynor someone who didn't need to be another LI for Mshep who already had goddamned 9 of them.

Do you see now, cjones? Do you see what happens? :devil:

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eluvianix wrote...

No offense Ryzaki, ummm maybe stick to DA stuff, not ME?


It's related. It's why I don't want "oh but males should get this many LIs and females get this many and straight m/f get this many and gay m/f get this many." doesn't help that female exclusive LIs get shat on when it comes to content (and sheer number of LIs to start with). Just makes me feel that the gay only LIs will also get skimped on content along with the female protag exclusive ones.

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Do we know if there will be non-companion LIs?
Because Scribe Girl has caught my eye too.

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Look, guys (I mean that in the informal, gender neutral way) - I was just asking for an equal amount of men as women who are romance-able.

Arguing about gay/straight/bi is irrelevant. Devs have stated repeatedly that all LI's will be "Hero-Sexual". I get why some people think this is annoying, because they're looking at it from a meta-gaming perspective. Well, the devs said they refuse to base romances on meta-gaming.

Yeah, so, you're all arguing a very, very old topic that is completely moot by this point.

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[quote]Silfren wrote...
Make whatever snide comment you're trying to and move on, buddy.  I said ethnically diverse because that's what I meant. 
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Ah, so you meant it as some meaningless buzzword like most people who go on about ethnic diversity do.
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No, you twit.  I meant ethnically diverse because if I try to delineate all the different ethnic groups I risk leaving some out or privileging some over others and I really try NOT to do that.  YOU are the only one trying to insinuate that I must only mean black or white and also trying to insinuate that I think only those two ethnic flavors matter.  

You want me to say it?  I would like to see a Bioware game that is NOT 98% white with only the odd occasional dark-skinned person. I'd like to see a game that has such a wide mix of skin colors depicted that no player who is NOT WHITE feels excluded.  

It's not really that hard, but it's amazing how deaf, dumb, and blind privilege makes people.

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Ryzaki wrote...
Samantha Traynor someone who didn't need to be another LI for Mshep who already had goddamned 9 of them. 

C'mon, don't hate on Mshep, the best character he could 'mance in the series got killed off in that game.

Modifié par bobobo878, 08 septembre 2013 - 03:22 .


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Eragon- wrote...
Should I call for an ambulance ? I don't think you are gonna last much longer :lol:


Probably I have steam running out of my ears at this point.

eluvianix wrote...

Somebody's bitter. :lol:


Very because that was some ol bull****. <_<

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Ryzaki wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

No offense Ryzaki, ummm maybe stick to DA stuff, not ME?


It's related. It's why I don't want "oh but males should get this many LIs and females get this many and straight m/f get this many and gay m/f get this many." doesn't help that female exclusive LIs get shat on when it comes to content (and sheer number of LIs to start with). Just makes me feel that the gay only LIs will also get skimped on content along with the female protag exclusive ones.

Touche. Fair enough.

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Mr.House wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Honestly, I'd rather we have an equal set of LIs with the characters themselves show that they have a preference and some show that they aren't interested

This is what should happen, won't happen though because oft he people who want to bang everything that moves.


hence why the romance arguments always happen