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[sandalisthemaker]

Orian Tabris wrote...

This would be my preference for LIs:

1 straight male - companion
1 straight female - companion
1 bisexual male - companion
1 bisexual female - companion
1 bisexual male - NPC
1 bisexual female - NPC
1 Qunari, 1 dwarf, 2 elves and 2 humans, based on the above
1 or 2 DLC extras which can be dwarf, elf or human; straight, bisexual or homosexual; male or female*

Obviously, resources are an issue, but, short of having every possible orientation, gender and race, this would be my preferred minimum.

* = no Qunari, unless there are none prior to DLC companions, in which case, there should be at least 1 whom is Qunari

This gives more options for straight romance though.  Bioware's not going back to that with Dragon Age.

[Hellion Rex]

Eragon- wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

Eragon- wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

Any chance of us all holding hands and singing Kumbaya?

Are you still not drunk ?

He passed out 20 min ago. This is the boyfriend typing. 

:lol: I don't know why but I have a very amusing image in my head right now.

Oh, do tel!! :D

[Hellion Rex]

Off topic, but Ryzaki do you write fanfic?

[Ryzaki]

Narrow Margin wrote...
Even with ME, I thought 1 and 2 weren't so bad? Then 3 had a little bit of a train wreck due partially to the situation 2 left it in. Although there's no excuse for their Jacob trick, that was just a failure to engage the brain before writing.

Given they're not pulling in any romance related baggage from a previous game, I'll bet we're good.

ME 1 had a Het male 2 to Het female 1 scenario. That's bad. The trainwreck came from 1 and 2 mixing in 3 (it was minus 2 LIs to the males to begin with then the devs decided stupidly to add another minus 1 with the Jacob garbage).

But thankfully DA series didn't do that One romance for females 2 for men garbage to start with and we get a new protag and new LIs each game so hopefully that holds. (the even amount of LIs for each gender I mean).

[Hellion Rex]

Maker's breath...I love a good romance thread.

[Eragon-]

 Hey! Where did Dreamgazer run off to ? I wanted an answer to the Mulholland Drive plot 

[Mr.House]

sandalisthemaker wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Honestly, I'd rather we have an equal set of LIs with the characters themselves show that they have a preference and some show that they aren't interested

This is what should happen, won't happen though because oft he people who want to bang everything that moves.

hence why the romance arguments always happen

No. The arguments tend to start when people start flinging insults and acting as if they are somehow morally superior to romance fans. Kind of  like saying "want to bang everything that moves" as stated above.

You do know that even Gaider has made fun of this right? If you can not see how rampent it is, then fine. But don't try to act like it does not exsist.

[Mr.House]

sandalisthemaker wrote...

Orian Tabris wrote...

This would be my preference for LIs:

1 straight male - companion
1 straight female - companion
1 bisexual male - companion
1 bisexual female - companion
1 bisexual male - NPC
1 bisexual female - NPC
1 Qunari, 1 dwarf, 2 elves and 2 humans, based on the above
1 or 2 DLC extras which can be dwarf, elf or human; straight, bisexual or homosexual; male or female*

Obviously, resources are an issue, but, short of having every possible orientation, gender and race, this would be my preferred minimum.

* = no Qunari, unless there are none prior to DLC companions, in which case, there should be at least 1 whom is Qunari

This gives more options for straight romance though.  Bioware's not going back to that with Dragon Age.

O.M.G You have just proved my point. Ugh, Gaider can we just not haveromances at this point?

[Ryzaki]

Orian Tabris wrote...

This would be my preference for LIs:

1 straight male - companion
1 straight female - companion
1 bisexual male - companion
1 bisexual female - companion
1 bisexual male - NPC
1 bisexual female - NPC
1 Qunari, 1 dwarf, 2 elves and 2 humans, based on the above
1 or 2 DLC extras which can be dwarf, elf or human; straight, bisexual or homosexual; male or female*

Obviously, resources are an issue, but, short of having every possible orientation, gender and race, this would be my preferred minimum.

* = no Qunari, unless there are none prior to DLC companions, in which case, there should be at least 1 whom is Qunari

If we must have 2/2/2 I'd prefer

1 bisexual male companion
1 bisexual female companion
1 straight female NPC
1 straight male NPC
1 gay female NPC
1 gay male NPC

That way there's no "but all the companions are bi/gay!" nonsense. You have 2 LIs that are companions and they're for both genders. The NPCs can be the exclusive options. Hopefully the NPcs will be similar in degrees of importance. (The companions preferably are more plot important though).

[sandalisthemaker]

Mr.House wrote...

sandalisthemaker wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Honestly, I'd rather we have an equal set of LIs with the characters themselves show that they have a preference and some show that they aren't interested

This is what should happen, won't happen though because oft he people who want to bang everything that moves.

hence why the romance arguments always happen

No. The arguments tend to start when people start flinging insults and acting as if they are somehow morally superior to romance fans. Kind of  like saying "want to bang everything that moves" as stated above.

You do know that even Gaider has made fun of this right? If you can not see how rampent it is, then fine. But don't try to act like it does not exsist.

Sure it exists, but don't try to paint everyone the same way. 

[sandalisthemaker]

Mr.House wrote...

sandalisthemaker wrote...

Orian Tabris wrote...

This would be my preference for LIs:

1 straight male - companion
1 straight female - companion
1 bisexual male - companion
1 bisexual female - companion
1 bisexual male - NPC
1 bisexual female - NPC
1 Qunari, 1 dwarf, 2 elves and 2 humans, based on the above
1 or 2 DLC extras which can be dwarf, elf or human; straight, bisexual or homosexual; male or female*

Obviously, resources are an issue, but, short of having every possible orientation, gender and race, this would be my preferred minimum.

* = no Qunari, unless there are none prior to DLC companions, in which case, there should be at least 1 whom is Qunari

This gives more options for straight romance though.  Bioware's not going back to that with Dragon Age.

O.M.G You have just proved my point. Ugh, Gaider can we just not haveromances at this point?

Equal numbers is the goal here.
Equal.
E-qual.
How hard is that to comprehend?

[Palidane]

Well, that escalated quickly. Anyway, let's try to steer this topic back on track.

I think player-sexual is the certainly the most practical option, but I dislike it. I think a person's sexuality is an important part of their identity, and should not be discarded so easily. Playing a straight male Shepard, I remember being very impressed with the friendship paths for Cortez and Traynor. Their homosexuality was part of who they were, not the only thing they were. I liked comparing eye-candy with Cortez in Purgatory, or getting dumped by Traynor over a game of chess (not to mention all the great Citadel banter between her and EDI). I grew to be friends with both of them over the game, and I would like to see that dynamic again.

In general, I dislike player-centered narcissism. I feel it violates a companions integrity as a character, while also hamstringing the writers. A lot of people say stuff like "Oh, I loved Morrigan, but it was stupid that I couldn't have a lesbian romance with her", but that sounds to me a lot more like "I loved Fenris as a character, but it was stupid that he wouldn't fall in love with a mage-loving maleficar! Why don't my companions worldview completely change to accommodate my fickle whims?".

[AresKeith]

Ryzaki wrote...

Orian Tabris wrote...

This would be my preference for LIs:

1 straight male - companion
1 straight female - companion
1 bisexual male - companion
1 bisexual female - companion
1 bisexual male - NPC
1 bisexual female - NPC
1 Qunari, 1 dwarf, 2 elves and 2 humans, based on the above
1 or 2 DLC extras which can be dwarf, elf or human; straight, bisexual or homosexual; male or female*

Obviously, resources are an issue, but, short of having every possible orientation, gender and race, this would be my preferred minimum.

* = no Qunari, unless there are none prior to DLC companions, in which case, there should be at least 1 whom is Qunari

If we must have 2/2/2 I'd prefer

1 bisexual male companion
1 bisexual female companion
1 straight female NPC
1 straight male NPC
1 gay female NPC
1 gay male NPC

That way there's no "but all the companions are bi/gay!" nonsense. You have 2 LIs that are companions and they're for both genders. The NPCs can be the exclusive options. Hopefully the NPcs will be similar in degrees of importance. (The companions preferably are more plot important though).

I really hope they do something similar to this

[lady_v23]

bobobo878 wrote...

MasterScribe wrote...
I preferred Samara over Morinth, mainly because I like living.
And I'm a sucker for the cougars. 

Ew, Samara was literally the worst person on Shepard's ship.

uh no!  The worst person was jacob.

and no.  I'm not racist.  He was just horrible. Not soon forgetting that my femshep became a total hoe when she spoke to him.<_<

[Silfren]

greengoron89 wrote...

Like I said at the beginning... give people an inch and they'll take a mile.

Small wonder that we who get a whole inch would not be satisfied when we've been watching the rest of you get your mile for, like, ever. 

Can you really not see the problem here?  You're exactly right, we're NOT happy with an inch, because while you ARE getting that mile, we are still only ever given an inch.  You're basically throwing us a f*cking CRUMB and demanding that we be happy with it.

[Eragon-]

sandalisthemaker wrote...

Equal numbers is the goal here.
Equal.
E-qual.
How hard is that to comprehend?

Pretty hard, if this thread is anything to go by.

[devSin]

Filament wrote...

I'm saying they're only the same if you're fixed on looking at the question from the self-insert POV. But you don't have to play that way, and playing a different way can be perfectly fulfilling, whereas "playing life" that way is simply self-denial.

But doesn't that only work if you assume every gay character is created by a gay player? (It almost sounds like you're suggesting there's no reason to play a gay character, and since everyone can choose not to, everyone has access to the same amount of choice.)

If you play a gay character who can only romance Zevran or Leliana, then it's not "self-insert" to think it's wrong that the straight character can choose betwen Alistair, Zevran, Morrigan, and Leliana, is it?

It seems your assumption relies on equality, which has never been the case before (except for DA2).

Modifié par devSin, 08 septembre 2013 - 03:49 .

[sandalisthemaker]

Palidane wrote...

Well, that escalated quickly. Anyway, let's try to steer this topic back on track.

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Finger in the dam, buddy.  

Except the dam already broke.