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sandalisthemaker wrote...

Joking mostly.
This whole thread is just a joke now.  


Aren't they all?

Isn't it a shame that one week ago we were the recipients of an incredible wealth of DA information, both from GI and from Gamescom...and now we're once again having our romance circle-jerk (is that a pun? I'm not sure).

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tiktac wrote...

yes

and the basic point we've been making is that we want them to keep it that way but the entire video game industry's track record is against them so we worry that they may just go back to origins. or worse, mass effect 1 and 2. 


But there's no indication that they plan to change it.

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RedArmyShogun wrote...

Why did I come into this thread...just when I think this forum can't get worse..something like this has to happen...really, what is wrong with some of you people?


that depends, who's this directed at?

greengoron89 wrote...

tiktac wrote...

yes

and the basic point we've been making is that we want them to keep it that way but the entire video game industry's track record is against them so we worry that they may just go back to origins. or worse, mass effect 1 and 2. 


But there's no indication that they plan to change it.


no, and i'm quite thankful for that

but like i said, given the climate of the industry, i'd say it's a valid fear nonetheless

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RedArmyShogun wrote...

Why did I come into this thread...just when I think this forum can't get worse..something like this has to happen...really, what is wrong with some of you people?


You know you love it.
Don't even lie.

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Why did I come into this thread...just when I think this forum can't get worse..something like this has to happen...really, what is wrong with some of you people?

 

It is all my fault. 

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lady_v23 wrote...

I wonder what you would have said if morrigan was a female only LI..


The same thing I'm saying now

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Dobbysaurus wrote...

lady_v23 wrote...

Dobbysaurus wrote...

lady_v23 wrote...

bobobo878 wrote...

MasterScribe wrote...
I preferred Samara over Morinth, mainly because I like living.
And I'm a sucker for the cougars. :wub:

Ew, Samara was literally the worst person on Shepard's ship.


uh no!  The worst person was jacob.

and no.  I'm not racist.  He was just horrible. Not soon forgetting that my femshep became a total hoe when she spoke to him.<_<


No. The worst were Miranda, Liara, and Tali.


.. how dare you?


Who dares, wins!


..No.

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Palidane wrote...

Not to put too fine a point on it, but... deal with it? Fenris doesn't like mages, Sebastian is straight. Fact. And I see both of those facts as equally important to the character. I think it's ironic that so many player-sexual defenders love to preach tolerance for other people's sexualities/worldviews, but then they expect all your companions to conform to your own sexuality/worldview...


Oh not at all, I'm all for playersexual and very opposed to them embracing someone with a violently conflicting worldview. I want the friendship and through this the romance options to focus on reactions to choices, not character creation.

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eluvianix wrote...

Seb was just an example. He's much too anti mage for my tastes.


I know, right? And he's a Witcher fan, eww.

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Palidane wrote...

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Palidane wrote...

Well, that escalated quickly. Anyway, let's try to steer this topic back on track.

I think player-sexual is the certainly the most practical option, but I dislike it. I think a person's sexuality is an important part of their identity, and should not be discarded so easily. Playing a straight male Shepard, I remember being very impressed with the friendship paths for Cortez and Traynor. Their homosexuality was part of who they were, not the only thing they were. I liked comparing eye-candy with Cortez in Purgatory, or getting dumped by Traynor over a game of chess (not to mention all the great Citadel banter between her and EDI). I grew to be friends with both of them over the game, and I would like to see that dynamic again.

In general, I dislike player-centered narcissism. I feel it violates a companions integrity as a character, while also hamstringing the writers. A lot of people say stuff like "Oh, I loved Morrigan, but it was stupid that I couldn't have a lesbian romance with her", but that sounds to me a lot more like "I loved Fenris as a character, but it was stupid that he wouldn't fall in love with a mage-loving maleficar! Why don't my companions worldview completely change to accommodate my fickle whims?".


I agree, but I believe the debate between Bi and Player sexual romances are almost a pick your poison. I feel like playercentric romance might do their identities discredit, but what if your male warden wanted to romance Alistair? Or what if your Hawke wanted Sebastian?

Not to put too fine a point on it, but... deal with it? Fenris doesn't like mages, Sebastian is straight. Fact. And I see both of those facts as equally important to the character. I think it's ironic that so many player-sexual defenders love to preach tolerance for other people's sexualities/worldviews, but then they expect all your companions to conform to your own sexuality/worldview...

That's why I said pick your poison. Either way you spin the romances, someone's gonna feel left out or underrepresented. I would like playersexual, but at the same time, I know it doesn't necessarily stay true to a characters identity.

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AresKeith wrote...

lady_v23 wrote...

I wonder what you would have said if morrigan was a female only LI..


The same thing I'm saying now



of course.

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lady_v23 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Jayne126 wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

I agree, but I believe the debate between Bi and Player sexual romances are almost a pick your poison. I feel like playercentric romance might do their identities discredit, but what if your male warden wanted to romance Alistair? Or what if your Hawke wanted Sebastian?

Can't have everything. That's something a lot of people should learn.


Pretty much, and if they do wanna romance him play as a female


I wonder what you would have said if morrigan was a female only LI..

Would have been fine, because if I wanted to romance her I would make a female warden, not hard.

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sandalisthemaker wrote...

Inquisitor Recon wrote...

sandalisthemaker wrote...
This gives more options for straight romance though.

You act as if this is a problem. It isn't.

And you act as though this statement isn't.

It is.

If you're going to make a lackluster attempt to be witty your response should at least make some degree of sense. Do you intend to say my statement is a problem, or that my statement isn't a statement, or something else entirely? Or have I been talking to some species of parrot the whole time?

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Mr.House wrote...

Hopefully Gaider get's his wish and we get equal set, which he said many times is something he wanted to do.


Well, it won`t be equal if everyone is BI like in DA2. Straight people got 2 choices, the bisexual players got 4.

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spirosz wrote...

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So what are we really angry about here?

Stuff and things.

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EntropicAngel wrote...

sandalisthemaker wrote...

Joking mostly.
This whole thread is just a joke now.  


Aren't they all?

Isn't it a shame that one week ago we were the recipients of an incredible wealth of DA information, both from GI and from Gamescom...and now we're once again having our romance circle-jerk (is that a pun? I'm not sure).

I lol'd.

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eluvianix wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

lady_v23 wrote...

Dobbysaurus wrote...

lady_v23 wrote...

bobobo878 wrote...

MasterScribe wrote...
I preferred Samara over Morinth, mainly because I like living.
And I'm a sucker for the cougars. :wub:

Ew, Samara was literally the worst person on Shepard's ship.


uh no!  The worst person was jacob.

and no.  I'm not racist.  He was just horrible. Not soon forgetting that my femshep became a total hoe when she spoke to him.<_<


No. The worst were Miranda, Liara, and Tali.


.. how dare you?


Yeah Miranda clearly doesn't belong on that list.

Liara and tali though...

Them's fightin words....


Bring it.

I've been fighting with Liaramancers for years. :D

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Ryzaki wrote...

Seb's so boring and terrible that nope.

Also these games have protagonist voice acting. I'd LOVED to romance Garrus.

I'd be damned if I put up with Hale's voice assaulting my ears to do so though.


I can understand that, but we can't have everything nor should we

People actually romanced Sebastian? :blink:

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lady_v23 wrote...
I wonder what you would have said if morrigan was a female only LI..

And these are cheap remarks.

Save them.

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Inquisitor Recon wrote...

sandalisthemaker wrote...

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sandalisthemaker wrote...
This gives more options for straight romance though.

You act as if this is a problem. It isn't.

And you act as though this statement isn't.

It is.

If you're going to make a lackluster attempt to be witty your response should at least make some degree of sense. Do you intend to say my statement is a problem, or that my statement isn't a statement, or something else entirely? Or have I been talking to some species of parrot the whole time?


Don't hurt yourself thinking too hard, bud.

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AresKeith wrote...

lady_v23 wrote...

I wonder what you would have said if morrigan was a female only LI..


The same thing I'm saying now



I really wish Morrigan and Alistair had been bi. They were the plot important companions.

Kind of sucky the easily ignored companions were the bi ones =/

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Ryzaki wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

Seb was just an example. He's much too anti mage for my tastes.


He didn't bother me on that front. Too waffley though. I'd respect him a lot more if he straight up killed Anders without demanding the PC do it. Arrow straight to the head Qunari style would've been boss.

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No.  Jacob belongs on that list.


Not Jacob's fault BW decided to have FemShep act like a cat in heat when talking to him. Hell I'd blame the VA for that.




No it is he's fault for being so boring.  And for somehow making my femshep act like a hoe,

:lol: Im sorry, I just really hate jacob

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Straight females got better treatment in DA2, why is no one complaining about that?

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Ryzaki wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

lady_v23 wrote...

I wonder what you would have said if morrigan was a female only LI..


The same thing I'm saying now



I really wish Morrigan and Alistair had been bi. They were the plot important companions.

Kind of sucky the easily ignored companions were the bi ones =/

And they where both rogues <_<

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Ryzaki wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

lady_v23 wrote...

Dobbysaurus wrote...

lady_v23 wrote...

bobobo878 wrote...

MasterScribe wrote...
I preferred Samara over Morinth, mainly because I like living.
And I'm a sucker for the cougars. :wub:

Ew, Samara was literally the worst person on Shepard's ship.


uh no!  The worst person was jacob.

and no.  I'm not racist.  He was just horrible. Not soon forgetting that my femshep became a total hoe when she spoke to him.<_<


No. The worst were Miranda, Liara, and Tali.


.. how dare you?


Yeah Miranda clearly doesn't belong on that list.

Liara and tali though...

Them's fightin words....


Bring it.

I've been fighting with Liaramancers for years. :D

Well my maleShep went for Kaidan, but Liara was like my best friend. So I got to stick up for her :P. If my Shep had been straight, well...that's a whole other story.