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[Ryzaki]

eluvianix wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

tiktac wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

Merrill, Isabela, Anders and Fenris could be banged by both genders, Seb could only be romanced by females. There's a preference, clearly no one gives a flying crap though.

yes this one chaste romance in one singular dlc turns the preference towards women 

how the tides have turned 

He's not chaste if you rival romance him, if you don't know what you are talking about, don't try to.

You get a chaste marraige if you rival romance him no? If you do sleep with him it's completely off screen and remarked upon...when exactly? In DLC?

Wait, he can't slept with period right?

I'm looking at the wiki. If you friend him you get a "chaste marriage" so no sex I'm guessing. If you rival him he says he'll marry you and leave the chantry.

I'm guessing you don't actually get laid til after the game is over and he's left the chantry. So yeah...waiting 3+ years to get some. GG. Edit: I don't think he'll actually romance *edit meant sleep with you til he's gotten his kingdom back. Goddamn. Hawke's gotta wait ahead of her.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 08 septembre 2013 - 04:14 .

[daveliam]

Objectively speaking, straight female characters DID have more options in DA2. That's not speaking subjectively about the quality of those LI's, but the point of the thread is simply the ratio.

In DA: O
Straight males - 2 LI's
Straight females - 2 LI's
Gay males - 1 LI
Gay females - 1 LI

In DA 2:
Straight males - 2 LI's
Straight females - 3 LI's
Gay males - 2 LI's
Gay females - 2 LI's.

So up to this point:
Straight males - 4 LI's
Straight females - 5 LI's
Gay males - 3 LI's
Gay females - 3 LI's

Objectively speaking, of course.

[Hellion Rex]

Ryzaki wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

tiktac wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

Merrill, Isabela, Anders and Fenris could be banged by both genders, Seb could only be romanced by females. There's a preference, clearly no one gives a flying crap though.

yes this one chaste romance in one singular dlc turns the preference towards women 

how the tides have turned 

He's not chaste if you rival romance him, if you don't know what you are talking about, don't try to.

You get a chaste marraige if you rival romance him no? If you do sleep with him it's completely off screen and remarked upon...when exactly? In DLC?

Wait, he can't slept with period right?

I'm looking at the wiki. If you friend him you get a "chaste marriage" so no sex I'm guessing. If you rival him he says he'll marry you and leave the chantry.

I'm guessing you don't actually get laid til after the game is over and he's left the chantry. So yeah...waiting 3+ years to get some. GG. Edit: I don't think he'll actually romance you til he's gotten his kingdom back. Goddamn. Hawke's gotta wait ahead of her.

Aha, I was right then!!!

[Rawgrim]

daveliam wrote...

Objectively speaking, straight female characters DID have more options in DA2. That's not speaking subjectively about the quality of those LI's, but the point of the thread is simply the ratio.

In DA: O
Straight males - 2 LI's
Straight females - 2 LI's
Gay males - 1 LI
Gay females - 1 LI

In DA 2:
Straight males - 2 LI's
Straight females - 3 LI's
Gay males - 2 LI's
Gay females - 2 LI's.

So up to this point:
Straight males - 4 LI's
Straight females - 5 LI's
Gay males - 3 LI's
Gay females - 3 LI's

Objectively speaking, of course.

Bisexuals gets 4 love interests in DA2. Female bisexuals gets 5 if you count Seb.

[Ryzaki]

Counting Seb is kind of like counting Allers as a LI though. You can count it but...do you even get an achievement for romancing him?

[Mr.House]

Rawgrim wrote...

daveliam wrote...

Objectively speaking, straight female characters DID have more options in DA2. That's not speaking subjectively about the quality of those LI's, but the point of the thread is simply the ratio.

In DA: O
Straight males - 2 LI's
Straight females - 2 LI's
Gay males - 1 LI
Gay females - 1 LI

In DA 2:
Straight males - 2 LI's
Straight females - 3 LI's
Gay males - 2 LI's
Gay females - 2 LI's.

So up to this point:
Straight males - 4 LI's
Straight females - 5 LI's
Gay males - 3 LI's
Gay females - 3 LI's

Objectively speaking, of course.

Bisexuals gets 4 love interests in DA2. Female bisexuals gets 5 if you count Seb.

But see, it's fine because it's female, not male.

[Rawgrim]

Ryzaki wrote...

Counting Seb is kind of like counting Allers as a LI though. You can count it but...do you even get an achievement for romancing him?

Yes. You get an achievement for completing 1 romance. If that romance is Seb, then you get it for him.

[Orian Tabris]

This thread proves why we can't have nice things in our romances. Most everyone is an opinionated douche, who wants everything, and only knows how to argue when things don't go their way. Thus, BioWare just gave up and made everyone bi 'cept Sebastian (who is the one bright spot in the DA2 romances... ironically, I never romanced him). If BioWare had their way, we might actually get some decent choices for romances. But no, instead we get the same equality crap.

What is the point of equality, is everyone is the same? May as well make all the romance-capable characters be bisexual humans. How can we have equality, if everyone/thing is the same? This is why I am not too fond of inter-racial offspring IRL, but that is entirely off-topic.

We can't have everything, which is why in many games, it is better to specialise in one area, rather than trying to do every possible combat style. If romances were specific, the game would be better for it.

Modifié par Orian Tabris, 08 septembre 2013 - 04:15 .

[Hellion Rex]

Ryzaki wrote...

Counting Seb is kind of like counting Allers as a LI though. You can count it but...do you even get an achievement for romancing him?

You just had to remind me of that creature....:sick:

[Mr.House]

Ryzaki wrote...

Counting Seb is kind of like counting Allers as a LI though. You can count it but...do you even get an achievement for romancing him?

Not really. Seb was a companion cut to be dlc, his romance was just diffrent. You still had alot of flirting with him, two romance paths which ended up diffrnetly. Just because he's dlc or the sex scene is not showen means very very little.

[Inquisitor Recon]

[quote]sandalisthemaker wrote...
Aw, I didn't know you wanted Seb.
[/quote]
Only one creature in DA2 could capture my heart, and that was Flemeth, but you ageist bigots prevented that romance. Why are you such a bigot sandal?

[quote]greengoron89 wrote...
So that is okay but DA:O was somehow "wrong"? I suppose double standards are acceptable for those so long
oppressed by the cruel video game industry like yourself.
[/quote]
And here we find ourselves coming full circle: give people an inch, and they'll take a mile.

Never have I seen such a shameless sense of entitlement.
[/quote]
Pretty much. The romances went from being some extra to BSN having it's cult of the romance expect 1:1 ratios of sexuality and gender. Reason? "Fairness", which really isn't a reason for anything, and definitely not something that will have any positive impact on the quality of a game. But if you don't worship at the alter of "fairness" you're privileged and thus your opinion is invalid.

Add in some self-pity about how the video game industry is so bigoted, rinse, and repeat.

Modifié par Inquisitor Recon, 08 septembre 2013 - 04:17 .

[ObserverStatus]

Trista Hawke wrote...
Well...glad I provided folks with something to do on a Saturday night! :::leaving my house now:::

Ooooooooohhhhh! Burn!

[werewoof]

Orian Tabris wrote...

This thread proves why we can't have nice things in our romances. Most everyone is an opinionated douche, who wants everything, and only knows how to argue when things don't go their way. Thus, BioWare just gave up and made everyone bi 'cept Sebastian (who is the one bright spot in the DA2 romances... ironically, I never romanced him). If BioWare had their way, we might actually get some decent choices for romances. But no, instead we get the same equality crap.

What is the point of equality, is everyone is the same? May as well make all the romance-capable characters be bisexual humans. How can we have equality, if everyone/thing is the same? This is why I am not too fond of inter-racial offspring IRL, but that is entirely off-topic.

We can't have everything, which is why in many games, it is better to specialise in one area, rather than trying to do every possible combat style. If romances were specific, the game would be better for it.

????????????? wow you are kinda gross with that 

Modifié par tiktac, 08 septembre 2013 - 04:17 .

[Hellion Rex]

[quote]Inquisitor Recon wrote...

[quote]sandalisthemaker wrote...
Aw, I didn't know you wanted Seb.
[/quote]
Only one creature in DA2 could capture my heart, and that was Flemeth, but you ageist bigots prevented that romance. Why are you such a bigot sandal?

[quote]greengoron89 wrote...
So that is okay but DA:O was somehow
"wrong"? I suppose double standards are acceptable for those so long
oppressed by the cruel video game industry like yourself.
[/quote]
And here we find ourselves coming full circle: give people an inch, and they'll take a mile.

Never have I seen such a shameless sense of entitlement.
[/quote]
Pretty
much. The romances went from being some extra to BSN having it's cult
of the romance expect 1:1 ratios of sexuality and gender. Reason?
"Fairness", which really isn't a reason for anything, and definitely not
something that will have any positive impact on the quality of a game.
But if you don't worship at the alter of "fairness" you're privileged
and thus your opinion is invalid.

Add in some self-pity about how the video game industry is so bigoted, rinse, and repeat.
[/quote]

So people like us only deserve an inch? 

Modifié par eluvianix, 08 septembre 2013 - 04:19 .

[Ryzaki]

Rawgrim wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Counting Seb is kind of like counting Allers as a LI though. You can count it but...do you even get an achievement for romancing him?

Yes. You get an achievement for completing 1 romance. If that romance is Seb, then you get it for him.

Not according to the wiki. Edit: wait read it wrong. That's what I get for relying on Ign.

He still feels Allerish to me.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 08 septembre 2013 - 04:18 .

[Hellion Rex]

bobobo878 wrote...

Trista Hawke wrote...
Well...glad I provided folks with something to do on a Saturday night! :::leaving my house now:::

Ooooooooohhhhh! Burn!

I like how you said that, and your avatar is on fire:devil:

[d-boy15]

Can't we care less on equality and more on quality?

[Hellion Rex]

eluvianix wrote...

Inquisitor Recon wrote...

sandalisthemaker wrote...
Aw, I didn't know you wanted Seb.

Only one creature in DA2 could capture my heart, and that was Flemeth, but you ageist bigots prevented that romance. Why are you such a bigot sandal?

greengoron89 wrote...
So that is okay but DA:O was somehow
"wrong"? I suppose double standards are acceptable for those so long
oppressed by the cruel video game industry like yourself.

And here we find ourselves coming full circle: give people an inch, and they'll take a mile.

Never have I seen such a shameless sense of entitlement.

Pretty
much. The romances went from being some extra to BSN having it's cult
of the romance expect 1:1 ratios of sexuality and gender. Reason?
"Fairness", which really isn't a reason for anything, and definitely not
something that will have any positive impact on the quality of a game.
But if you don't worship at the alter of "fairness" you're privileged
and thus your opinion is invalid.

Add in some self-pity about how the video game industry is so bigoted, rinse, and repeat.

So people like us only deserve an inch? 

[andrew252]

Ryzaki wrote...

Rawgrim wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Counting Seb is kind of like counting Allers as a LI though. You can count it but...do you even get an achievement for romancing him?

Yes. You get an achievement for completing 1 romance. If that romance is Seb, then you get it for him.

Not according to the wiki.

Have you unlocked it with Seb?

I dont think i did PS3 MC, i tried but i dont think its possible

[Rawgrim]

tiktac wrote...

Orian Tabris wrote...

This thread proves why we can't have nice things in our romances. Most everyone is an opinionated douche, who wants everything, and only knows how to argue when things don't go their way. Thus, BioWare just gave up and made everyone bi 'cept Sebastian (who is the one bright spot in the DA2 romances... ironically, I never romanced him). If BioWare had their way, we might actually get some decent choices for romances. But no, instead we get the same equality crap.

What is the point of equality, is everyone is the same? May as well make all the romance-capable characters be bisexual humans. How can we have equality, if everyone/thing is the same? This is why I am not too fond of inter-racial offspring IRL, but that is entirely off-topic.

We can't have everything, which is why in many games, it is better to specialise in one area, rather than trying to do every possible combat style. If romances were specific, the game would be better for it.

????????????? wow you are kinda gross with that 

He is right. Children with a black and a white parent end up with stripes. They get picked on all the time!

[lady_v23]

Rawgrim wrote...

tiktac wrote...

Orian Tabris wrote...

This thread proves why we can't have nice things in our romances. Most everyone is an opinionated douche, who wants everything, and only knows how to argue when things don't go their way. Thus, BioWare just gave up and made everyone bi 'cept Sebastian (who is the one bright spot in the DA2 romances... ironically, I never romanced him). If BioWare had their way, we might actually get some decent choices for romances. But no, instead we get the same equality crap.

What is the point of equality, is everyone is the same? May as well make all the romance-capable characters be bisexual humans. How can we have equality, if everyone/thing is the same? This is why I am not too fond of inter-racial offspring IRL, but that is entirely off-topic.

We can't have everything, which is why in many games, it is better to specialise in one area, rather than trying to do every possible combat style. If romances were specific, the game would be better for it.

????????????? wow you are kinda gross with that 

He is right. Children with a black and a white parent end up with stripes. They get picked on all the time!

.

...can we not?  Please no.

[Ryzaki]

Mr.House wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Counting Seb is kind of like counting Allers as a LI though. You can count it but...do you even get an achievement for romancing him?

Not really. Seb was a companion cut to be dlc, his romance was just diffrent. You still had alot of flirting with him, two romance paths which ended up diffrnetly. Just because he's dlc or the sex scene is not showen means very very little.

Seb has plenty of flaws compared to the actual main LIs.

- No love scene
- No comfort scene after All that remains
- You get him later than you get any other LI
- He has no conflict with other LIs because his romance refuses to start if you flirt with someone else

Does Hawke's mother even mention him?

Modifié par Ryzaki, 08 septembre 2013 - 04:21 .

[andrew252]

Rawgrim wrote...

tiktac wrote...

Orian Tabris wrote...

This thread proves why we can't have nice things in our romances. Most everyone is an opinionated douche, who wants everything, and only knows how to argue when things don't go their way. Thus, BioWare just gave up and made everyone bi 'cept Sebastian (who is the one bright spot in the DA2 romances... ironically, I never romanced him). If BioWare had their way, we might actually get some decent choices for romances. But no, instead we get the same equality crap.

What is the point of equality, is everyone is the same? May as well make all the romance-capable characters be bisexual humans. How can we have equality, if everyone/thing is the same? This is why I am not too fond of inter-racial offspring IRL, but that is entirely off-topic.

We can't have everything, which is why in many games, it is better to specialise in one area, rather than trying to do every possible combat style. If romances were specific, the game would be better for it.

????????????? wow you are kinda gross with that 

He is right. Children with a black and a white parent end up with stripes. They get picked on all the time!

its even worse when he has a kid, Quad stripes!

[Rawgrim]

lady_v23 wrote...

Rawgrim wrote...

tiktac wrote...

Orian Tabris wrote...

This thread proves why we can't have nice things in our romances. Most everyone is an opinionated douche, who wants everything, and only knows how to argue when things don't go their way. Thus, BioWare just gave up and made everyone bi 'cept Sebastian (who is the one bright spot in the DA2 romances... ironically, I never romanced him). If BioWare had their way, we might actually get some decent choices for romances. But no, instead we get the same equality crap.

What is the point of equality, is everyone is the same? May as well make all the romance-capable characters be bisexual humans. How can we have equality, if everyone/thing is the same? This is why I am not too fond of inter-racial offspring IRL, but that is entirely off-topic.

We can't have everything, which is why in many games, it is better to specialise in one area, rather than trying to do every possible combat style. If romances were specific, the game would be better for it.

????????????? wow you are kinda gross with that 

He is right. Children with a black and a white parent end up with stripes. They get picked on all the time!

.

...can we not?  Please no.

(that was sarcasm)