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Whatever Happens, the Sequel Should Invalidate, or Partially Validate ME3 Endings.


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Perhaps it could be set hundreds of thousands of years after ME3.

If you chose Synthesis, perhaps your characters starts off with a 10% bonus in all stats, or something similar. No green poo poo, though. The Reapers "vanished".

If you chose Control, perhaps the Reapers "mysteriously vanished", or Shepard came to the conclusion that it was too much power for one person to wield, etc. 5% bonus in all stats, and 5% bonus in weapon damage.

If you chose Destroy, perhaps you get a 10% bonus in weapon damage (salvage from Reapers), or something similar. Geth are dismissed via codex.

Not perfect, simply off the tope of my head. However, if they're going to do a sequel (not sure if they are), then the decisions in ME3 ending need to have as little impact on the game as possible.

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That is stupid.

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David7204 wrote...

That is stupid.


How do you propose they make a sequel with ShepGod and the Reapers alive? It would be pointless if the plot is going to be signicant in the MEU.

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David7204 wrote...

That is stupid.


Do you ever think something isn't stupid?  God, you're ignorant

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I would propose they don't.

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Bionuts wrote...

How do you propose they make a sequel with ShepGod and the Reapers alive? It would be pointless if the plot is going to be signicant in the MEU.


They shouldn't. 

A sequel should do what so many other RPG series have done; pick a canon set of choices and go with it.

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OT: ME4 should happen 100 years after ME3, with destroy being cannon, Geth were not killed, Peace on rannoch, and genophage cured.

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Rather than invalidate per se, I'd rather just see the story continue with and/or incorporate what happened in the Arrival DLC. There must be more to that story.

Yes, I'm hinting at indoctrination. My apologies. :D

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Bionuts wrote...

David7204 wrote...

That is stupid.


How do you propose they make a sequel with ShepGod and the Reapers alive? It would be pointless if the plot is going to be signicant in the MEU.

They should retcon the existence of control and synthesis and go with high EMS destroy. Reapers gone, no ties to earlier events in the trilogy and the galaxy is rebuilding.

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RZIBARA wrote...

OT: ME4 should happen 100 years after ME3, with destroy being cannon, Geth were not killed, Peace on rannoch, and genophage cured.


Real talk i see BW doing this. 

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AnubisEgyptainLordofDeath wrote...

RZIBARA wrote...

OT: ME4 should happen 100 years after ME3, with destroy being cannon, Geth were not killed, Peace on rannoch, and genophage cured.


Real talk i see BW doing this. 


I think its how they should do it. It would be perfect. by that time the citadel, relays, and most of the galaxy should be repaired and well.

Most character would be dead (maybe Liara could still be the shadow broker, and Grunt, Wrex, and Aria would make cameos), allowing for a completely new cast of characters

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What does any of that have to do with validating the ending?

A small bonus to stat is not unheard of but is ultimately pointless (who cares about 10% of initial stats when you eventually become a god... unless you are suggesting that synthesis players should start with 19+ strength).
It's been tied to race, profession, and character background and there is no reason you couldn't tie to decisions made in a previous title.

Perhaps it could be set hundreds of thousands of years after ME3.

That's a reaaaaaaaaly long time, and thus you are doing neither of the things you asked for: You simply skip so far ahead that the choice will no longer have any appreciable impact on anything - the Reapers have been removed by other means, "inevitable" synthesis has happened, humans have outgrown the primitive tech left behind by the Reapers...

So why call it Mass Effect again?

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rashie wrote...
They should retcon the existence of control and synthesis and go with high EMS destroy. Reapers gone, no ties to earlier events in the trilogy and the galaxy is rebuilding. 


This isn't really a retcon -- that version of Shepard just chose Destroy . It's only a retcon if they rewrite what happened in Destroy. So what RZIBARA's talking about is a retcon.

Modifié par AlanC9, 07 septembre 2013 - 09:15 .


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Bionuts wrote...

David7204 wrote...

That is stupid.


How do you propose they make a sequel with ShepGod and the Reapers alive? It would be pointless if the plot is going to be signicant in the MEU.

How do you figure?


The Reapers could end up just being galactic guardians. I don't see why they would concern themselves with the everyday lives of individuals from the lesser species of the galaxy. It's likely they'll mind their own business just so long as the entire galaxy isn't threatened by another all-out war.

Plenty of "significant" stories can he told within the MEU without having another galactic war.

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AnubisEgyptainLordofDeath wrote...

RZIBARA wrote...

OT: ME4 should happen 100 years after ME3, with destroy being cannon, Geth were not killed, Peace on rannoch, and genophage cured.


Real talk i see BW doing this. 

Real talk, it isn't going to happen. BW isn't going to canonize an ending, let alone canonize one and retcon it at the same time. Good luck with that, though.

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RZIBARA wrote...

OT: ME4 should happen 100 years after ME3, with destroy being cannon, Geth were not killed, Peace on rannoch, and genophage cured.


If they decide to roll with a sequel, this would be the easiest way.

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Necanor wrote...

RZIBARA wrote...

OT: ME4 should happen 100 years after ME3, with destroy being cannon, Geth were not killed, Peace on rannoch, and genophage cured.


If they decide to roll with a sequel, this would be the easiest way.


the best way as well. Canonizing Control or synthesis will ****** the fanbase off even more than it already is now

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Mcfly616 wrote...
How do you figure?


The Reapers could end up just being galactic guardians. I don't see why they would concern themselves with the everyday lives of individuals from the lesser species of the galaxy. It's likely they'll mind their own business just so long as the entire galaxy isn't threatened by another all-out war.

Plenty of "significant" stories can he told within the MEU without having another galactic war.


Sure, if ME4 is about low life gangsters killing each other on Omega, that's possible. With the uber-powerful Reaper Guardians in place, there is no sense of threat or adversity whatsoever. 

Atmosphere = 0

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Mcfly616 wrote...

AnubisEgyptainLordofDeath wrote...

RZIBARA wrote...

OT: ME4 should happen 100 years after ME3, with destroy being cannon, Geth were not killed, Peace on rannoch, and genophage cured.


Real talk i see BW doing this. 

Real talk, it isn't going to happen. BW isn't going to canonize an ending, let alone canonize one and retcon it at the same time. Good luck with that, though.


considering how many retcons theyve done already it wouldnt be surprising. 

And if they really plan to canonize all endings, then theyre screwed, because they couldnt even properly make decisions work in this trilogy (with the exception of a few).

Also, you forget that importing into ME4 won't happen, because next gen consoles won't have backwards compatibility

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RZIBARA wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

AnubisEgyptainLordofDeath wrote...

RZIBARA wrote...

OT: ME4 should happen 100 years after ME3, with destroy being cannon, Geth were not killed, Peace on rannoch, and genophage cured.


Real talk i see BW doing this. 

Real talk, it isn't going to happen. BW isn't going to canonize an ending, let alone canonize one and retcon it at the same time. Good luck with that, though.


considering how many retcons theyve done already it wouldnt be surprising. 

And if they really plan to canonize all endings, then theyre screwed, because they couldnt even properly make decisions work in this trilogy (with the exception of a few).

Also, you forget that importing into ME4 won't happen, because next gen consoles won't have backwards compatibility


http://blog.bioware....ragon-age-keep/
They have a plan in the works to solve that for DA:I and i suspect they might port that system to Mass Effect if they decide to do that.

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rashie wrote...

RZIBARA wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

Real talk, it isn't going to happen. BW isn't going to canonize an ending, let alone canonize one and retcon it at the same time. Good luck with that, though.


considering how many retcons theyve done already it wouldnt be surprising. 

And if they really plan to canonize all endings, then theyre screwed, because they couldnt even properly make decisions work in this trilogy (with the exception of a few).

Also, you forget that importing into ME4 won't happen, because next gen consoles won't have backwards compatibility


http://blog.bioware....ragon-age-keep/
They have a plan in the works to solve that for DA:I and i suspect they might port that system to Mass Effect if they decide to do that.


still doesnt matter, there's no way bioware is going to canonize all endings. they didnt do anything like this in a trilogy, what makes you think theyre going to do it now? when theyve failed before

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RZIBARA wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

AnubisEgyptainLordofDeath wrote...

RZIBARA wrote...

OT: ME4 should happen 100 years after ME3, with destroy being cannon, Geth were not killed, Peace on rannoch, and genophage cured.


Real talk i see BW doing this. 

Real talk, it isn't going to happen. BW isn't going to canonize an ending, let alone canonize one and retcon it at the same time. Good luck with that, though.


considering how many retcons theyve done already it wouldnt be surprising. 

And if they really plan to canonize all endings, then theyre screwed, because they couldnt even properly make decisions work in this trilogy (with the exception of a few).

Also, you forget that importing into ME4 won't happen, because next gen consoles won't have backwards compatibility

who says they will canonize any of the endings? What retcons?


Importing isn't possible? Guess you missed the whole big deal about DA3 last week. Importing to next gen consoles is possible.

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I agree with David

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RZIBARA wrote...

rashie wrote...

RZIBARA wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

Real talk, it isn't going to happen. BW isn't going to canonize an ending, let alone canonize one and retcon it at the same time. Good luck with that, though.


considering how many retcons theyve done already it wouldnt be surprising. 

And if they really plan to canonize all endings, then theyre screwed, because they couldnt even properly make decisions work in this trilogy (with the exception of a few).

Also, you forget that importing into ME4 won't happen, because next gen consoles won't have backwards compatibility


http://blog.bioware....ragon-age-keep/
They have a plan in the works to solve that for DA:I and i suspect they might port that system to Mass Effect if they decide to do that.


still doesnt matter, there's no way bioware is going to canonize all endings. they didnt do anything like this in a trilogy, what makes you think theyre going to do it now? when theyve failed before



I don't think they will do it either, i think they will canonize high EMS destroy a couple of hundred years after the events of ME3, just pointing out backwards compability is a non issue at this point.

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Necanor wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...
How do you figure?


The Reapers could end up just being galactic guardians. I don't see why they would concern themselves with the everyday lives of individuals from the lesser species of the galaxy. It's likely they'll mind their own business just so long as the entire galaxy isn't threatened by another all-out war.

Plenty of "significant" stories can he told within the MEU without having another galactic war.


Sure, if ME4 is about low life gangsters killing each other on Omega, that's possible. With the uber-powerful Reaper Guardians in place, there is no sense of threat or adversity whatsoever. 

Atmosphere = 0

really? Conspiracies, revenge tales, redemption stories. Any number of narratives is possible without Reaper involvement. Basically you're saying that you want Bioware to do another Galactic War in which all existence is at stake, while we play as the anointed savior of the galaxy, once again? No thanks.


If anything, the atmosphere will be better than ever if we're able to move along at our own pace whilst immersing ourselves in the the game world without the sense of urgency to get to the next major plot development. You see it all the time, people complaining that ME3 pushed them along without giving them any freedom to take a breath, relax, and enjoy the world.