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DA:I cover - should they use male, female or "undefined" inquisitor?


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My thoughts...

1: Inquisition symbol engraved on gold or in stone. A light splattering of blood across it, just enough to be suggestive of battle.

2: Those awesome stained glass window-like pictures we got in DA 2 to depict the major acts of Varric's story. Several of them all entertwined into one tapestry. Each picture represents a part of of the Inquisitor's journey, but with the Inquisitor benig represented as different genders and backgrounds for each... This is probably the best option, since it implies the world, itself, gives us something to look back on and is representative of how unifying diversity against a single common threat is the key to victory.

3: Take several different genders and species the Inquisitor can be. Have them all adopt the same pose and copied camera angle. Each with a different surrounding background environment. Then layer them in Photoshop. Then erase each one in diagonal stripes. You're left with a single, composit image of the one protagonist in a bad-ass/ominous pose, demonstrating the value of how radically different they can be. The diagonal 'cut-aways' could be made to look like Fade rips to reflect what the story is about.

I might even have a go at trying to construct this in CGI art, because I like how it looks in my mind. :)

4: The image shown in Morrigan's advert of a shadowy figure rising up from a desert surrounded by gusting winds (of change?). If they're facing the camera, this avoids any particular inference of one gender or species.

5: All the different major types of Inquisitor posing in the same background, as if making up a party by themselves.

Modifié par Xenomorphine, 08 septembre 2013 - 11:50 .


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drake heath wrote...

They should do what they did with KoTOR and have the main characters except the protagonist on the box art.


This.

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Either just the helmet, symbol, or done in some way that the features are obscured.

Or take advantage of perspective to have a lone Inquisitor dressed in full plate armour, overlooking [insert location here] without anything to indicate height, so it could easily make them Human, Elf, Dwarf or Kossith?

Modifié par Sifr1449, 09 septembre 2013 - 01:15 .


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That concept art with the sword and the rings would be a nice one. Following that, a reversible cover like Mass Effect, but this time release roughly half with one side facing front, and the other half with the other.

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I think folks need to rethink things a little when they say, 'Skyrim had X, it sold millions!' There were many, many things that made up that game and I don't think you can attribute any one of them on its own to its success.

That was my point - it wasn't a dealbreaker to have the classic badass what-have-you on the game's cover. It wasn't my intent to imply that the game sold millions based just off that.

Having said that, I'm more concerned about the game itself than what's placed behind a plastic cover after I buy the game.

Modifié par DominusVita, 09 septembre 2013 - 01:49 .


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Karsciyin wrote...

Nefla wrote...

I think in a game where there is no set protagonist, there shouldn't be a default protagonist on the cover. I think it confuses what kind of game it is and a lot of people end up thinking "this is the hero" and buttoning through the CC without looking at it. Games with that typical brunette white male with stubble on the cover have me walking right by because in my mind it gets equated with the hoards of shallow fighting games or shooters aimed at angsty teen boys. Games with only a symbol or title or something of that nature have me reading the box to see what kind of game is this?


You are a thoughtful buyer. The exact person marketing seems to think does not exist.

Bioshock Infinite actually had to use a really generic cover to sell their game, and recognised it (they got a LOOOT more funding for it) - they provided a reversible cover in the case so people who bought it could use that instead, which had a more traditional Bioshock vibe.

But you, Nefla, are part of the minority. People who are uninterested in Short-Brown-Haired White [Space-]Marine Dude are very few compared to those who accept it as a 'majority option'. Truth is that large amounts of the world - including in first world countries - are both very racist and very sexist, so the White Man cover is marketing's best strategy to still have consumers within those markets.


I don't think that's necessarily true anymore. Once apon a time really only young boys played games and of course they'd want to emulate the manly-man hero on the cover. I think nowadays there are not only a very large number of women who play, but also men who are more accepting of women and less hardcore lumberjacks/cavemen/etc...where something has to be super masculine or nothing at all as well as those who are just tired of seeing the same thing over and over again. Having a symbol instead of a dudebro on the cover didn't seem to hurt Skyrim's sales. I think too many companies just want to play it ultra safe.

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I still think we should have a bunch of faceless inquisitor's on the front doing jazz hands

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andrew252 wrote...

I still think we should have a bunch of faceless inquisitor's on the front doing jazz hands


Or just the jazz hands floating in a black void >.> XD

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greengoron89 wrote...

Why not just use a variation of this:

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Looks good to me. And it will keep you politically correct types from getting your knickers in a twist (or so I would hope).


I really freaking love this concept, specifically BECAUSE it's easy to read this Inquisitor as being any race, colour, or gender. It's a great way to show EVERYONE that they're welcome without ignoring ANYONE or making them feel like this isn't 'for them.'

Which is all "politically correct" means. Not doing or saying things that make people feel unwelcome just because they're familiar and easy.

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RosaAquafire wrote...

greengoron89 wrote...

Why not just use a variation of this:



Looks good to me. And it will keep you politically correct types from getting your knickers in a twist (or so I would hope).


I really freaking love this concept, specifically BECAUSE it's easy to read this Inquisitor as being any race, colour, or gender. It's a great way to show EVERYONE that they're welcome without ignoring ANYONE or making them feel like this isn't 'for them.'

Which is all "politically correct" means. Not doing or saying things that make people feel unwelcome just because they're familiar and easy.

Anyone who feels excluded from a video game because their race gender or sexuality isn't on a cover would be better off spending their money on therapy....or a labotomy. 

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Anyone who feels excluded from a video game because their race gender or sexuality isn't on a cover would be better off spending their money on therapy....or a labotomy. 


Well I could argue that anyone who needs to defend the biggest borefest pandering covers so vehemently must be afraid or something?

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not trying to anger anyone or get into an argument but i dont really care what the cover is just gonna create my characters the way i want anyway

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RevanCousland wrote...

not trying to anger anyone or get into an argument but i dont really care what the cover is just gonna create my characters the way i want anyway

Oh, I am so angry right now.

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phunx wrote...

Domecoming wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

There's no female representation in video games!!!

*Example covers*

Oh wait....


Not to mention a whole bunch of Point & Click adventure games that also have female leads.


Ok wait let me show you male representation in video games! (I don't have 3 years).


You mean there's more male leads?! I never realized how oppressed women were! :crying:

Modifié par The Mad Hanar, 09 septembre 2013 - 04:15 .


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Sandal.

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The Mad Hanar wrote...

phunx wrote...

Domecoming wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

There's no female representation in video games!!!

*Example covers*

Oh wait....


Not to mention a whole bunch of Point & Click adventure games that also have female leads.


Ok wait let me show you male representation in video games! (I don't have 3 years).


You mean there's more male leads?! I never realized how oppressed women were! :crying:


Yes there are more male leads in games (and on covers), therefore the only logical conclusion is to put them on the covers where they're not. Logic'd! B)

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RosaAquafire wrote...

I really freaking love this concept, specifically BECAUSE it's easy to read this Inquisitor as being any race, colour, or gender. It's a great way to show EVERYONE that they're welcome without ignoring ANYONE or making them feel like this isn't 'for them.'

Which is all "politically correct" means. Not doing or saying things that make people feel unwelcome just because they're familiar and easy.

I think they said the dude holding the helmet/sword on the website is not actually The Inquisitor.

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I'm kind of hoping to not have representation of anyone on the cover. Perhaps just symbols like Mage, Templar, Seekers, etc. I prefer abstract artwork over something that looks like the cover of a bad fantasy novel.

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RevanCousland wrote...

not trying to anger anyone or get into an argument but i dont really care what the cover is just gonna create my characters the way i want anyway

So mad about your free will.

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phunx wrote...

I Like Cats And wrote...
Anyone who feels excluded from a video game because their race gender or sexuality isn't on a cover would be better off spending their money on therapy....or a labotomy. 


Well I could argue that anyone who needs to defend the biggest borefest pandering covers so vehemently must be afraid or something?


Rofl. 

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Question, if you bought the game, regardless of your anger towards the cover - would that affect your overall feelings toward the game, even if it was a quality title? The anger towards the issue seems a bit misleading, IMO.

Personally, I haven't bought a game for the cover since I was a kid.  Now, we're in a position where most people have access to the internet, they can see what the game is about, learn more from the Dev's themselves, become active in so much, that I find the cover would be irrelevent after it "peaks" your interest - thats all a cover is meant for IMO.  

Also, the fact that there is no cover yet, but we know we can create a male and female (if I am correct) for Inquistion, what is the problem?  

Modifié par spirosz, 09 septembre 2013 - 04:49 .


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Filament wrote...
I think they said the dude holding the helmet/sword on the website is not actually The Inquisitor.


^ This. I had thought they mentioned that the shadowy figure is giving the helmet and sword to the inquisitor. The figure to me represents the giving of power or passing the reigns over to the inquisitor. I like it because it doesn't show a default character. This to me shows much more possibility. The shadowy figure is giving us the helmet and sword and with it the power to do what we will. I would be totally fine if this is the cover.

So to answer the OP I would be fine with whatever cover they decide to do but I prefer an undefined inquisitor or something that doesn't have the inquisitor on it at all. Considering the Dragon Age series is centered around Thedas and not one protagonist it seems fitting to me not to focus on the protagonist in the cover art. In my opinion anyways. :P

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spirosz wrote...

Question, if you bought the game, regardless of your anger towards the cover - would that affect your overall feelings toward the game, even if it was a quality title? The anger towards the issue seems a bit misleading, IMO.

Personally, I haven't bought a game for the cover since I was a kid.  Now, we're in a position where most people have access to the internet, they can see what the game is about, learn more from the Dev's themselves, become active in so much, that I find the cover would be irrelevent after it "peaks" your interest - thats all a cover is meant for IMO.  

Also, the fact that there is no cover yet, but we know we can create a male and female (if I am correct) for Inquistion, what is the problem?  


I have no idea but I'm surprised no one his pinned it on EA yet. 

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If I remember correctly, they did say that they will use both male and female default. So why are we still debating?

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female. WoC if the world was perfect. But give me a female cover and don't pull that me3 bull****