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[werewoof]

er, let me clarify on that - there are people who make me a lil uncomfortable with their attitude in the romance department of the games, but that isnt because they "like it too much"

rather its thing like, romanticizing cullen's characterization for instance which is problematic because his thing for female mage pcs is really, really kinda gross to me. he's in a position of power over them and templars are canonically notorious for sexually abusing the mages i believe. so him hitting on her doesnt strike me as cute so much as creepy panty-sniffer type stuff. and when people romanticize that coupled with his obvious ptsd and him being sort of a zealot...well the problem there isnt them liking the romance too much, its them interpreting his creepy behavior in a positive way.

that all being said if you like him because he floats your boat as far as looks go and hes an interesting character, more power to you! as long as you realize that his actions arent exactly conducive to a healthy relationship. does that make sense? thats the type of stuff i find "creepy" in romance discussions.

that paragraph got away from me a little.

Modifié par tiktac, 08 septembre 2013 - 07:23 .

[Zered]

One reason I hate about the BSN is that each and every other thread about romances will end up in flames. People will go to war over this crap, who is hetero/bi/whatever. From this perspective I never could understand what is wrong with people who insult each another over video-game characters.

Other then that I quite enjoy romances if they are good.

[werewoof]

Fandango9641 wrote...

tiktac wrote...

Fandango9641 wrote...

A few here doth protest too much methinks! No one here is saying that romantic content if for girls. No one here is saying that romantic content isn't fun and worthwhile. No one here is saying that those who appreciate romantic content cant appreciate gameplay and vice versa. No. The question is: Do some people care too much about romance? And - given that the romantic ruminations of this community have led to an entire sub forum being locked - the answer is a resounding yes! Couldn't be clearer!

And  that's not to say that we're all guilty - just that uber-creepy subsection of fans that care way more about this stuff than is healthy. You know who you are. 

well first off in every romance thread ever i have read every single one of those things many times. people say it's for fangirls, its pandering, its not worthwhile, and everyone who likes it is wasting their time and desperate and lonely etc etc ad nauseam 

and in trying to create some semblance of peace here your best solution is to again imply that its your business that some people like romance "way more than is healthy"? because thats totally your place to decide yeah 

Remind us wont you why the ME3 romance sub-forum was locked down again. Waaaaaaaaaayyy more than is healthy is absolutely right.

yooo i have never played me3 or many me for that matter because i am poor and can no longer afford games so i have no idea what that even was

i was talking about the dragon age forums because thats where i have been 

Modifié par tiktac, 08 septembre 2013 - 07:22 .

[Silfren]

Fandango9641 wrote...

A few here doth protest too much methinks! No one here is saying that romantic content if for girls. No one here is saying that romantic content isn't fun and worthwhile. No one here is saying that those who appreciate romantic content cant appreciate gameplay and vice versa. No. The question is: Do some people care too much about romance? And - given that the romantic ruminations of this community have led to an entire sub forum being locked - the answer is a resounding yes! Couldn't be clearer!

And  that's not to say that we're all guilty - just that uber-creepy subsection of fans that care way more about this stuff than is healthy. You know who you are.

I guess you haven't noticed the sheer numbers of people who go into romance threads to make snide comments about how the peope who like the romance just want to use DA as a dating sim, and that the romances ruin the rest of the game.  That attitude is rampant any time ANY kind of  discussion about romances comes up, and yes, it's come up here. 

[Silfren]

BlueDemonX wrote...

Trista Hawke wrote...

lady_v23 wrote...

People care about romances. Obviously they wouldn't feel so strongly about it.

And you know what? Saying you don't like romances for x reason, doesn't make you cool, or special. Just another one who doesn't do romances.

 

Exactly this. I mean, if you don't like romances, then opt out of them. If you can't stand games that include (optional) romance, then don't play them. If you're annoyed by the fan base of said games - stay off the company's forums. 

The problem is when people care more about romances in a fantasy game where the main goal is to "save x or y" and not seduce every guy and gal you see.

How is it a problem?  Does it affect your copy of the game, or how you play it, if other people care more about the romance than the primary objective? No it doesn't.  So, how is it a problem, exactly? 

[Get Magna Carter]

People care about what they care about.
Different people care about different things
complaining because someone else cares about something you don't is pointless and futile

[werewoof]

Silfren wrote...

BlueDemonX wrote...

Trista Hawke wrote...

lady_v23 wrote...

People care about romances. Obviously they wouldn't feel so strongly about it.

And you know what? Saying you don't like romances for x reason, doesn't make you cool, or special. Just another one who doesn't do romances.

 

Exactly this. I mean, if you don't like romances, then opt out of them. If you can't stand games that include (optional) romance, then don't play them. If you're annoyed by the fan base of said games - stay off the company's forums. 

The problem is when people care more about romances in a fantasy game where the main goal is to "save x or y" and not seduce every guy and gal you see.

How is it a problem?  Does it affect your copy of the game, or how you play it, if other people care more about the romance than the primary objective? No it doesn't.  So, how is it a problem, exactly? 

sh*t by that logic i should go into all those tactical cam threads and get on their rears about them playing the game wrong, since the goal of the game is to "save x or y" and not hone your battle tactic skills. 

i do not care how other people play their game and i would love it if they quit caring about how i play mine. 

and before i get a comment about "why do you care about people caring about people liking romance blah blah blah" i do not care if you have some disdain for people who enjoy romances, thats your thing. i do care when people come into even the most innocuous fun threads (like the one about the grey warden fella for LI, not stuff that's meant to be a debate like last night's 46-page wonder) to bother people about liking romance "too much"

yall dig? i dont care too much about your opinion so much as your constant need to pester me with it even when its just a fun little speculation thread like some of them are

Modifié par tiktac, 08 septembre 2013 - 07:32 .

[o Ventus]

Former_Fiend wrote...

I think people care too much about people who care about romances.

[Shadow Fox]

I think people care too much about what others want/enjoy in their games and some people take things way too seriously.

[werewoof]

BeadyEyedTater wrote...

RedJohn wrote...
 btw, changing a little bit what do you prefer the most?, good romances or better combat mechanics?

Both. It's not an either/or thing. Having a love interest for my PC to care about makes the game's story more engaging and better combat mechanics makes playing the game more fun.

yeah i don't like that people act like those are mutually exclusive. but given the choice i could probably forgive combat mechanics more easily, but thats also because i play on pc and can heavily mod my game so if i get sick of origins' shopping cart shuffle combat, i can just get that mod to kill all hostiles and skip the battle. when you're doing repeat playthroughs they get pretty tedious. 

[werewoof]

Fandango9641 wrote...

Silfren wrote...

Fandango9641 wrote...

A few here doth protest too much methinks! No one here is saying that romantic content if for girls. No one here is saying that romantic content isn't fun and worthwhile. No one here is saying that those who appreciate romantic content cant appreciate gameplay and vice versa. No. The question is: Do some people care too much about romance? And - given that the romantic ruminations of this community have led to an entire sub forum being locked - the answer is a resounding yes! Couldn't be clearer!

And  that's not to say that we're all guilty - just that uber-creepy subsection of fans that care way more about this stuff than is healthy. You know who you are.

I guess you haven't noticed the sheer numbers of people who go into romance threads to make snide comments about how the peope who like the romance just want to use DA as a dating sim, and that the romances ruin the rest of the game.  That attitude is rampant any time ANY kind of  discussion about romances comes up, and yes, it's come up here. 

If I haven't noticed, its because people who engage in trolling of the type you describe aren't worth listening to. You know, I could do without romance in Bioware games. Could you?

prolly not, point being?

its what sets dragon age apart for me. if i wanna play an rpg that has no romance, i'll play fallout or skyrim (okay skyrim has the marriage necklace and as much as i like the dorky ass love dialogue, it doesnt count as romance), because i honestly prefer bethesda's open world games to bioware's linear ones when it comes to gameplay. that's what they offer. but if i wanna play something with romance, i'll go for bioware, because they're good at it. skyrim is for when i wanna play a pretty open world game with...okay combat (to me) and dragon age is for when i wanna play a tight story with romance and characters that are actually interesting. does that make sense? everything's got its place. depends on my mood. 

sometimes i wanna kill dragons and go hiking, sometimes i wanna blow up raiders, sometimes i wannt make out with zevran and become besties with varric and so forth.

Modifié par tiktac, 08 septembre 2013 - 07:45 .

[werewoof]

Fandango9641 wrote...

tiktac wrote...

Fandango9641 wrote...

Silfren wrote...

Fandango9641 wrote...

A few here doth protest too much methinks! No one here is saying that romantic content if for girls. No one here is saying that romantic content isn't fun and worthwhile. No one here is saying that those who appreciate romantic content cant appreciate gameplay and vice versa. No. The question is: Do some people care too much about romance? And - given that the romantic ruminations of this community have led to an entire sub forum being locked - the answer is a resounding yes! Couldn't be clearer!

And  that's not to say that we're all guilty - just that uber-creepy subsection of fans that care way more about this stuff than is healthy. You know who you are.

I guess you haven't noticed the sheer numbers of people who go into romance threads to make snide comments about how the peope who like the romance just want to use DA as a dating sim, and that the romances ruin the rest of the game.  That attitude is rampant any time ANY kind of  discussion about romances comes up, and yes, it's come up here. 

If I haven't noticed, its because people who engage in trolling of the type you describe aren't worth listening to. You know, I could do without romance in the next Bioware game. Could you?

prolly not, point being?

Point? Try the title of this thread.

good job ignoring the rest of my post that clarified as to why your argument makes zero sense.

people like different things about the games they play. whether or not they care "too much" is subjective and none of your dang business anyhow.

if i said i wouldn't play dragon age without tactical cam, would you say the same thing? or is this just a personal hang-up about one feature in the game you don't like.

Modifié par tiktac, 08 septembre 2013 - 07:48 .

[werewoof]

Fandango9641 wrote...

tiktac wrote...

Fandango9641 wrote...

tiktac wrote...

Fandango9641 wrote...

Silfren wrote...

Fandango9641 wrote...

A few here doth protest too much methinks! No one here is saying that romantic content if for girls. No one here is saying that romantic content isn't fun and worthwhile. No one here is saying that those who appreciate romantic content cant appreciate gameplay and vice versa. No. The question is: Do some people care too much about romance? And - given that the romantic ruminations of this community have led to an entire sub forum being locked - the answer is a resounding yes! Couldn't be clearer!

And  that's not to say that we're all guilty - just that uber-creepy subsection of fans that care way more about this stuff than is healthy. You know who you are.

I guess you haven't noticed the sheer numbers of people who go into romance threads to make snide comments about how the peope who like the romance just want to use DA as a dating sim, and that the romances ruin the rest of the game.  That attitude is rampant any time ANY kind of  discussion about romances comes up, and yes, it's come up here. 

If I haven't noticed, its because people who engage in trolling of the type you describe aren't worth listening to. You know, I could do without romance in the next Bioware game. Could you?

prolly not, point being?

Point? Try the title of this thread.

good job ignoring the rest of my post that clarified as to why your argument makes zero sense.

people like different things about the games they play. whether or not they care "too much" is subjective and none of your dang business anyhow.

if i said i wouldn't play dragon age without tactical cam, would you say the same thing? or is this just a personal hang-up about one feature in the game you don't like.

I would say that you care too much about tactical cam (what a silly question).

at least that puts you out of the "hurr get the icky girly romance out of my game" camp, but i still think you're a lil too bothered with what other people do with their games. it hardly affects you how much they care about whatever aspect. 

[Mykel54]

As long as the romances do not interfere with the rest of the bioware game, i do not mind it. I would be concerned if at some point the romances were so popular, that the main plot resolved around the PC relationship to some npc, like it was some romantic novel.

So far bioware has managed to keep romances self-contained and optional, and the game is no less enjoyable without them. So no i don´t mind romances in their current form.

[ThreeGemSheepy]

Fandango9641 wrote...

tiktac wrote...

Fandango9641 wrote...

tiktac wrote...

Fandango9641 wrote...

Silfren wrote...

Fandango9641 wrote...

A few here doth protest too much methinks! No one here is saying that romantic content if for girls. No one here is saying that romantic content isn't fun and worthwhile. No one here is saying that those who appreciate romantic content cant appreciate gameplay and vice versa. No. The question is: Do some people care too much about romance? And - given that the romantic ruminations of this community have led to an entire sub forum being locked - the answer is a resounding yes! Couldn't be clearer!

And  that's not to say that we're all guilty - just that uber-creepy subsection of fans that care way more about this stuff than is healthy. You know who you are.

I guess you haven't noticed the sheer numbers of people who go into romance threads to make snide comments about how the peope who like the romance just want to use DA as a dating sim, and that the romances ruin the rest of the game.  That attitude is rampant any time ANY kind of  discussion about romances comes up, and yes, it's come up here. 

If I haven't noticed, its because people who engage in trolling of the type you describe aren't worth listening to. You know, I could do without romance in the next Bioware game. Could you?

prolly not, point being?

Point? Try the title of this thread.

good job ignoring the rest of my post that clarified as to why your argument makes zero sense.

people like different things about the games they play. whether or not they care "too much" is subjective and none of your dang business anyhow.

if i said i wouldn't play dragon age without tactical cam, would you say the same thing? or is this just a personal hang-up about one feature in the game you don't like.

I would say that you care too much about tactical cam (what a silly question).

So no matter what someone said you would make a comment to put them down.

[Aolbain]

Oh, this thread. Hi, this thread!

Modifié par Aolbain, 08 septembre 2013 - 08:00 .

[lady_v23]

michalooo wrote...

One reason I hate about the BSN is that each and every other thread about romances will end up in flames. People will go to war over this crap, who is hetero/bi/whatever. From this perspective I never could understand what is wrong with people who insult each another over video-game characters.

Other then that I quite enjoy romances if they are good.

BSN is not like any other forum.  I would know I've looked.  Very special people here.