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by a lot, and it grieves me to say so because I like them.

Against one faction they do pretty well against the other three not well compared to other races.

- Huge health and shields which can still be one or two shotted against enemy bosses.
- Virtually no mobility at all.
- Huge hit boxes, where other classes can dance around sync killers as soon as you are in range your toast.
- Suffer from the melee build scenario of having to choose from health and shileds or melee damage.
- Rage mechanic that comes into play not often enough  (as in you get into rage by killing stuff but then you have to hunt down other enemies and by that time rage can subside, not too mention it makes some maps like fbwhite blizzard pretty awful to play.)

Now before we get the old l2p, if played in pug by a good player then yes they will do better than the avg public player but stick 4 good players in a match, one krogan and the other 3 anything they wish and I'm betting you'll lag on the score board.

In conclusion, their high shields and health do not make up for increased sync kill danger and general danger of being an up close fighter.

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I agree. Drells are far superior.

this is the part where we sit back and watch as BSN burns.

Modifié par FatherOfPearl, 08 septembre 2013 - 01:27 .


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 Better yet: have 4 good players in a lobby play Krogans vs Geth on Goddess and watch them wipe on wave 4.

Totally not speaking from experience.

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FatherOfPearl wrote...

I agree. Drells are far superior.

this is the part where we sit back and watch as BSN burns.


All races are superior, even the Salarian (due to infil)

I love the krogan and playing them but they simply do not benefit from their strengths as much as other classes if you ask me and their weakness can leave you in spectator mode 2 waves a game.

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Reload cancel is an exploit.

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Deerber wrote...

Reload cancel is an exploit.


This is well known.  If they gave krogans +15% racial bonus to reload cancel it might be more even.

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Deerber wrote...

Reload cancel is an exploit.

QFT

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Still not as average as vanilla humans.

Modifié par lightswitch, 08 septembre 2013 - 01:46 .


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Salarians are the worst race.

Even biower didn't bother wasting resources on their ugly race.

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Ledgend1221 wrote...

Salarians are the worst race.

Even biower didn't bother wasting resources on their ugly race.

If they're so ugly then why do half the Krogans wear full helmets?

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FatherOfPearl wrote...

Ledgend1221 wrote...

Salarians are the worst race.

Even biower didn't bother wasting resources on their ugly race.

If they're so ugly then why do half the Krogans wear full helmets?

Because people who don't wear helmets are pansies.

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Leland Gaunt wrote...

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can you please play a Krogan next time you're in a stream? :3

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Ledgend1221 wrote...

FatherOfPearl wrote...

Ledgend1221 wrote...

Salarians are the worst race.

Even biower didn't bother wasting resources on their ugly race.

If they're so ugly then why do half the Krogans wear full helmets?

Because people who don't wear helmets are pansies.

But isn't it cowardly to hide your face from the person you're about to kill? Seems like something a pyjack would do.

Modifié par FatherOfPearl, 08 septembre 2013 - 01:55 .


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We krogans hear this all the time. But you pathetic fools would have lost the galaxy without us. Now stop wiggling so much or I won't be able to get a good grip on your spine.

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Beerfish wrote...

by a lot, and it grieves me to say so because I like them.

Against one faction they do pretty well against the other three not well compared to other races.

- Huge health and shields which can still be one or two shotted against enemy bosses.
- Virtually no mobility at all.
- Huge hit boxes, where other classes can dance around sync killers as soon as you are in range your toast.
- Suffer from the melee build scenario of having to choose from health and shileds or melee damage.
- Rage mechanic that comes into play not often enough  (as in you get into rage by killing stuff but then you have to hunt down other enemies and by that time rage can subside, not too mention it makes some maps like fbwhite blizzard pretty awful to play.)

Now before we get the old l2p, if played in pug by a good player then yes they will do better than the avg public player but stick 4 good players in a match, one krogan and the other 3 anything they wish and I'm betting you'll lag on the score board.

In conclusion, their high shields and health do not make up for increased sync kill danger and general danger of being an up close fighter.




I totally disagree on that part. The krogan soldier is a top scorer whatever the difficulty / ennemy (inferno + carnage...), and I have already toped the scoreboard with the adept and the sentinel in platinum (which I only play with above the average friends). 

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FatherOfPearl wrote...

Ledgend1221 wrote...

FatherOfPearl wrote...

Ledgend1221 wrote...

Salarians are the worst race.

Even biower didn't bother wasting resources on their ugly race.

If they're so ugly then why do half the Krogans wear full helmets?

Because people who don't wear helmets are pansies.

But isn't it cowardly to hide your face from the person you're about to kill? Seems like something a pyjack would do.

That sounds like something a fool who should be eaten would say. Showing any facial expression is weakness.

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Ledgend1221 wrote...

Salarians are the worst race.

Even biower didn't bother wasting resources on their ugly race.


Salarian infil > than any of the krogans.

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OP, all I read were reasons why YOU struggle with the Krogan. seems they don't suit your playstyle. mind you, I struggle with Krogan at times for all the reasons you mentioned, but I've seen ppl DESTROY with them on plat in lobbies of skilled players running other OP kits. one of them has already posted in this thread...

I don't think there's a "worst" kit. for every one that gets mentioned, I can think of at least two ppl that have mastered it. sure there's "popular and unpopular" kits, but none are really that awful.

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Ledgend1221 wrote...

FatherOfPearl wrote...

Ledgend1221 wrote...

FatherOfPearl wrote...

Ledgend1221 wrote...

Salarians are the worst race.

Even biower didn't bother wasting resources on their ugly race.

If they're so ugly then why do half the Krogans wear full helmets?

Because people who don't wear helmets are pansies.

But isn't it cowardly to hide your face from the person you're about to kill? Seems like something a pyjack would do.

That sounds like something a fool who should be eaten would say. Showing any facial expression is weakness.

It just doesn't seem like a Krogan thing to do, deny your enemy one last look into your rage-filled eyes.

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loufi1528 wrote...

Beerfish wrote...

by a lot, and it grieves me to say so because I like them.

Against one faction they do pretty well against the other three not well compared to other races.

- Huge health and shields which can still be one or two shotted against enemy bosses.
- Virtually no mobility at all.
- Huge hit boxes, where other classes can dance around sync killers as soon as you are in range your toast.
- Suffer from the melee build scenario of having to choose from health and shileds or melee damage.
- Rage mechanic that comes into play not often enough  (as in you get into rage by killing stuff but then you have to hunt down other enemies and by that time rage can subside, not too mention it makes some maps like fbwhite blizzard pretty awful to play.)

Now before we get the old l2p, if played in pug by a good player then yes they will do better than the avg public player but stick 4 good players in a match, one krogan and the other 3 anything they wish and I'm betting you'll lag on the score board.

In conclusion, their high shields and health do not make up for increased sync kill danger and general danger of being an up close fighter.




I totally disagree on that part. The krogan soldier is a top scorer whatever the difficulty / ennemy (inferno + carnage...), and I have already toped the scoreboard with the adept and the sentinel in platinum (which I only play with above the average friends). 



I'd say you are an exception in that case and play with friends that are not as good as you.  Notice what their big power is for those classes though, nades and carnage where you stay out of range.

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I can see what you're saying OP, but...

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Beerfish wrote...

Now before we get the old l2p, if played in pug by a good player then yes they will do better than the avg public player but stick 4 good players in a match, one krogan and the other 3 anything they wish and I'm betting you'll lag on the score board.

In conclusion, their high shields and health do not make up for increased sync kill danger and general danger of being an up close fighter.


Hydra-Gold, (Vanillia) Krogan Soldier, Any enemy. 
Something for head-shots (Pick your weapon) 
Firebased ammo (Or tech... or w/e floats your boat) 
Grenades (Full dmg, plus an equip that boosts how many you carry//weapon dmg) 
Carnage. 
Lots of flame bursts when need be (groups, spawns, bosses) 
Agility equip. (you don't need to roll around the map like a tumble weed if you know where you're going and when to 'dodge', you may take the odd bullet here and there even in cover when your hump sticks out so far, but that's what the extra health is for; soaking up the odd one of those) 
For Objective deliveries, krogans have no equal, they slide sideways while head bobbing the fastest. 

Will not lag on scoreboard. 
(At least I haven't. Other maps are questionable but that's only in part due to me not knowing where the spawns are via other maps. Plus I can't really play plat on any character let alone a krogan. At least not if there's a ton of carrying being done by the other players.)

Krogans aren't supposed to be an invincible tank; you're supposed to play them like you play them all other species. Tactfully. 

Modifié par Data7, 08 septembre 2013 - 02:07 .


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Beerfish wrote...

Ledgend1221 wrote...

Salarians are the worst race.

Even biower didn't bother wasting resources on their ugly race.


Any of the krogans.

As bioware intended.

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FOP you're obviously watching too much Doctor Who and expect them to act as the Sontaran's do.