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[Vapaa]

Plaintiff wrote...

Or, here's a radical notion:

People get to decide for themselves how their Qunari character feels, thinks and behaves.

Huh? Huh?

Madness ! how dare you talk about free will ? gross ! disgusting !

[Patchwork]

As our qunquistor has a surname it's possible they're second generation tal-vasoth and haven't had first hand experience with the qun. They're comfortable with the idea of sex because they feel like it not because some priest thinks you and that Arvvard with extra curvy horns will make awesome ox babies.

See that I can headcanon and backstory my pcs into any decision I like, so rather than blocking content because you don't like it simply don't choose that option.

[Heimdall]

Ser Bard wrote...

As our qunquistor has a surname it's possible they're second generation tal-vasoth and haven't had first hand experience with the qun.

That's been my guess.

[VampireSoap]

Excuse me? The Kossith race has little or no sex drive? Have you seen the body of a female Kossith? I...I just refuse to believe that manner of magnificence would not guarantee erotic desires. (Which is normal, mind you! )

[Steelcan]

Rolling Flame wrote...

Imagine the rage if they were locked out.

It would truly be glorious

[Billy-the-Squid]

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Modifié par Tequila Cat, 09 septembre 2013 - 02:03 .

[Plaintiff]

Morocco Mole wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

Or, here's a radical notion:

People get to decide for themselves how their Qunari character feels, thinks and behaves.

Huh? Huh?

I believe Bioware does that my friend.

Congratulations on getting the point.

[Gill Kaiser]

The Qunari approach to sex is cultural, not biological, as far as I know. If the Qunari PC is a second generation Vashoth, they won't have that problem.

[The Six Path of Pain]

I highly doubt the Qunari we are playing even follows the Qun. We'll most likely be playing a Vashot. So no, I don't think they'll be locked out of romances.
P.S. Bioware please release the true name of the Qunari race. It is kind of difficult calling a Qunari who doesn't follow the Qun a Qunari.

Modifié par The Six Path of Pain, 09 septembre 2013 - 05:41 .

[PinkDiamondstl]

Not gonna go there . Humans & Elves only

[Ryzaki]

Steelcan wrote...

Rolling Flame wrote...

Imagine the rage if they were locked out.

It would truly be glorious

Eh only a small percentage is gonna playing them in the first place so I don't see that much rage.

If humans were locked out on the other hand. 

[filetemo]

Ryzaki wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Rolling Flame wrote...

Imagine the rage if they were locked out.

It would truly be glorious

Eh only a small percentage is gonna playing them in the first place so I don't see that much rage.

If humans were locked out on the other hand. 

Past experiences suggest something akin to:

95% of BSN members will try Qunari
5% of regular players will

Therefore, the general impression on the BSN will be that "everybody plays qunari";)

[PinkDiamondstl]

filetemo wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Rolling Flame wrote...

Imagine the rage if they were locked out.

It would truly be glorious

Eh only a small percentage is gonna playing them in the first place so I don't see that much rage.

If humans were locked out on the other hand. 

Past experiences suggest something akin to:

95% of BSN members will try Qunari
5% of regular players will

Therefore, the general impression on the BSN will be that "everybody plays qunari";)

I believe that you are way off on those numbers kid. 

[Sporothrix]

Chashan wrote...

 Skimming through the couple pages here thus far, I haven't found it yet, so here goes a quote by one of the developers, Mary Kirby, on Qunari social interactions:

Qunari don't generally associate mating with love. They feel love. They have friends. They form emotional bonds with one another. They just don't sleep with each other to express it. And if they do, they get re-educated by the Ben-Hassrath. So, y'know, not exactly encouragement there.

If such a thing occurred and produced a child, the same thing would happen to the offspring as happens to all other Qunari offspring: It would be raised by the Tamassrans, evaluated, and assigned a job. Qunari don't waste people unnecessarily.

So, in other words yes, Qunari can feel affection for one another, and no, that affection does not extend to copulation.

Frankly, I'd love to see romance-content done without that when it comes down to it. But then again, I wouldn't even mind if bed-play cutscenes were omitted in general, but that's just me.

But you understood it as a point that they are asexual? For me it's clear it's about Qun forbidding them having sex outside of mating assignments with someone chosen by Tamassrans. And everything suggests we're  not going to play Qun believer.

On another note, I wonder how homosexuality is viewed by Qun. It doesn't collide with selective breeding program it enforces, but on another hand judging from real life cultures that are repressive when it comes to sex and gender roles, it's hard for me to imagine it to be very tolerant.

If our Qunari is going to be Tal-Vashoth (since devs can also decide that they were never born to that faith on the first place), I think it could be good reason for my character to leave Qun.
Hope it won't be wasted RPG opportunity like in City Elf origin in DAO, where you couldn't adress that maybe you just don't want to get married with a guy because you're lesbian (or however they call it in game world, since I'm sure there are words for it, again, which we never heard of), in a culture that supposedly (according to devs) has no problems with that.

Modifié par misoretu9, 09 septembre 2013 - 08:18 .

[Marvin_Arnold]

First, an Inquisitor cannot follow the Qun, since (s)he's a Chantry employee.

As long as the Inquisitor and his/her LI take the precautions recommended by Sten in DA:O, I don't see a problem.

[Captain Obvious]

filetemo wrote...

Maybe it's a solution, albeit a radical one, to the issue of carnal love being contrary to the beliefs of the Qun or the lack of sexual interest by Kossith. And it also would be a solution to avoid potential awkwardness in romances.

Maybe after being born under the Qun, the Inquisitor retains disinterest on romantic relations, and while he / she is now free to do as desired, that opression still lasts inside.

Who says all Kossith lack sexual interest? Maybe the ones that don't follow the Qun do have sexual interest? Perhaps the Qunari simply only believe in sex for reproduction?

[Vapaa]

Marvin_Arnold wrote...

First, an Inquisitor cannot follow the Qun, since (s)he's a Chantry employee.

No (s)he isn't

[Sporothrix]

Cap. Obvious wrote...

filetemo wrote...

Maybe it's a solution, albeit a radical one, to the issue of carnal love being contrary to the beliefs of the Qun or the lack of sexual interest by Kossith. And it also would be a solution to avoid potential awkwardness in romances.

Maybe after being born under the Qun, the Inquisitor retains disinterest on romantic relations, and while he / she is now free to do as desired, that opression still lasts inside.

Who says all Kossith lack sexual interest? Maybe the ones that don't follow the Qun do have sexual interest? Perhaps the Qunari simply only believe in sex for reproduction?

If they lacked sexual interest there would be no need for any 'reeducation', plus it wouldn't really make sense that whole or even majority of members of species was asexual.
Qunari have selective breeding eugenic program, that what it's all about. Tamassrans decide who has sex with who with hope that they'll breed "the best of the best". Of course it wouldn't work if they allowed (straight) mating outside of the system.

Modifié par misoretu9, 09 septembre 2013 - 08:43 .

[Vapaa]

misoretu9 wrote...

If they lacked sexual interest there would be no need for any 'reeducation', plus it wouldn't really make sense that whole or even majority of members of species was asexual.
Qunari have selective breeding eugenic program, that what it's all about. Tamassrans decide who has sex with who with hope that they'll breed "the best of the best". Of course it wouldn't work if they allowed (straight) mating outside of the system.

Yes, besides, any species that reproduces through sex can't be asexual, that would be like saying carnivores only eat weeds

[Chashan]

misoretu9 wrote...


But you understood it as a point that they are asexual? For me it's clear it's about Qun forbidding them having sex outside of mating assignments with someone chosen by Tamassrans.

I understood that to mean that oxmen - I'll be sticking to that term to avoid confusion -, among whose ranks the Qun was envisioned, may indeed strictly separate between love and copulation, with next to no overlap between the two as far as they see it independent even of what the Qun demands. They are a fictional kind of non-humans, thus do not have to follow the same basic urges.

And everything suggests we're  not going to play Qun believer.

Not certain yet, and I would hope the developers at least consider the option again. As someone else put it: oxmen without Qunari background feels an awful lot like dwarves in DA:O without a noble one.

On another note, I wonder how homosexuality is viewed by Qun. It doesn't collide with selective breeding program it enforces, but on another hand judging from real life cultures that are repressive when it comes to sex and gender roles, it's hard for me to imagine it to be very tolerant.

Going by the quote, I would imagine such behaviour would be frowned upon and treated the same way as heterosexual affairs. So 'equal treatment', if you will.

If our Qunari is going to be Tal-Vashoth (since devs can also decide that they were never born to that faith on the first place), I think it could be good reason for my character to leave Qun.
Hope it won't be wasted RPG opportunity like in City Elf origin in DAO, where you couldn't adress that maybe you just don't want to get married with a guy because you're lesbian (or however they call it in game world, since I'm sure there are words for it, again, which we never heard of), in a culture that supposedly (according to devs) has no problems with that.

A fairly short episode, and it is made clear by the City Elf's father that it's a marriage of convenience more than anything else. One can also express unwillingness to go along with it, so no major problem there.
'sides, poor bridegroom fella doesn't survive long either.

[PurpleNurplex0x]

I don't think the playable qunari will nessecarily follow the qun or be associated with the tal vashoth.
Kind of like Maraas in DA2. He was the qunari in act 3 who was a sword for hire in the Hanged Man and had previously warned you about TalVashoth in the wounded coast, saying he left the qun as well as them.

Hasn't it also been hinted that we may get a qunari companion? Perhaps that would be a potential LI for qunari players. Maybe it is even Maraas

[Ryzaki]

filetemo wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Rolling Flame wrote...

Imagine the rage if they were locked out.

It would truly be glorious

Eh only a small percentage is gonna playing them in the first place so I don't see that much rage.

If humans were locked out on the other hand. 

Past experiences suggest something akin to:

95% of BSN members will try Qunari
5% of regular players will

Therefore, the general impression on the BSN will be that "everybody plays qunari";)

Nah it might be 10% just many of those 10% will be extremely loud and obnoxious about it.

[Captain Obvious]

misoretu9 wrote...

Cap. Obvious wrote...

filetemo wrote...

Maybe it's a solution, albeit a radical one, to the issue of carnal love being contrary to the beliefs of the Qun or the lack of sexual interest by Kossith. And it also would be a solution to avoid potential awkwardness in romances.

Maybe after being born under the Qun, the Inquisitor retains disinterest on romantic relations, and while he / she is now free to do as desired, that opression still lasts inside.

Who says all Kossith lack sexual interest? Maybe the ones that don't follow the Qun do have sexual interest? Perhaps the Qunari simply only believe in sex for reproduction?

If they lacked sexual interest there would be no need for any 'reeducation', plus it wouldn't really make sense that whole or even majority of members of species was asexual.
Qunari have selective breeding eugenic program, that what it's all about. Tamassrans decide who has sex with who with hope that they'll breed "the best of the best". Of course it wouldn't work if they allowed (straight) mating outside of the system.

Exactly. There is nothing suggesting that the Qunari are all asexual. 

[In Exile]

filetemo wrote...
I wouldn't call an 1 hour introduction customised origin "aesthetic". It had repercussions in the story, quests and endgame

If you think DA:O had "rich" consequences, I'm sure DAI will deliver. I happen to think an entirely self-contained area that then leads to almost identical content for the remainder of the game is not really reactive.