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[Iakus]

RatThing wrote...

Where does the term "toasters" come from?

Battlestar Galactica.  The robotic Cylons were called "toasters" as a derogatory term.

[AcidwireX]

KaiserShep wrote...

Funny that you keep using a term for them that comes from a series that also establishes synthetics as a form of life. Whether or not it changes the opinion of people who insist that they're just "toasters" is irrelevant to what I said. This "wrong side" stuff doesn't really matter, because I'm also talking about EDI, who is on Shepard's side.

...Or I use it because that's just the equivalent of what they are to me. Tools- machines to serve a specific purpose and nothing more. EDI also tried to kill Shepard as well at one point, even if she did get better.

I'll admit that I'm pretty stubborn when it comes to Sci Fi and there are very few series I'll actually latch onto, but Star Wars likes blowing up droids and dismantling them for comedy. It might not be the best example.

PS: I have no idea what series you're talking about.

Modifié par AcidwireX, 09 septembre 2013 - 08:06 .

[naes1984]

Yeah. Making her a naked fem-bot for fan service was a disservice to the character. Wait, what are we talking about?

[andy6915]

naes1984 wrote...

Yeah. Making her a naked fem-bot for fan service was a disservice to the character. Wait, what are we talking about?

Good thing the alternate appearance pack exists. Gotta love that armor, makes her actually clothed and respectable looking... On missions at least.

[Iakus]

AcidwireX wrote...

...Or I use it because that's just the equivalent of what they are to me. Tools- machines to serve a specific purpose and nothing more. EDI also tried to kill Shepard as well at one point, even if she did get better.

Newborns are genralally flailing about screaming incoherantly.

Most newborns don't have access to guns, drones, and poison gas, or the delivery room would be a slaughterhouse.

[Sir George Parr]

iakus wrote...

RatThing wrote...

Where does the term "toasters" come from?

Battlestar Galactica.  The robotic Cylons were called "toasters" as a derogatory term.

Thats cleared that one up. I thought it was a reference to the talking toaster in 'Red Dwarf'. As for Edi, didn't care as it was a small price to pay, To get within touching distance of the conclusion i desired. 

[RatThing]

XM-417 wrote...

iakus wrote...

RatThing wrote...

Where does the term "toasters" come from?

Battlestar Galactica.  The robotic Cylons were called "toasters" as a derogatory term.

Thats cleared that one up. I thought it was a reference to the talking toaster in 'Red Dwarf'. As for Edi, didn't care as it was a small price to pay, To get within touching distance of the conclusion i desired. 

For me the toaster from Fallout New Vegas: Old World Blues comes to mind everytime I hear this term.
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Modifié par RatThing, 09 septembre 2013 - 08:36 .

[RZIBARA]

Yes, but one thing made it feel even worse,

Getting her flashback as I was shooting the tube ....   

Modifié par RZIBARA, 09 septembre 2013 - 08:41 .

[KaiserShep]

AcidwireX wrote...

PS: I have no idea what series you're talking about.

lol how did you even come across the term without at least some cursory knowledge of Battlestar Galactica? Stubborn about scifi indeed. 

[Br3admax]

KaiserShep wrote...

AcidwireX wrote...

PS: I have no idea what series you're talking about.

lol how did you even come across the term without at least some cursory knowledge of Battlestar Galactica? Stubborn about scifi indeed. 

I could never get into it, but I at least knew about BSG. How could you be on the internet and not know about BSG, Acid? 

[Iakus]

StreetMagic wrote...

It's a bargain, in fact. It doesn't even matter if she's alive or not. I would place a thousand human infants on catapults and launch them into a brick wall if it meant destroying the Reapers. EDI is hardly any kind of price to pay. I thought it'd be more challenging.

"It's not enough to stand against the darkness. You have to stand apart from it too"

[Br3admax]

iakus wrote...

StreetMagic wrote...

It's a bargain, in fact. It doesn't even matter if she's alive or not. I would place a thousand human infants on catapults and launch them into a brick wall if it meant destroying the Reapers. EDI is hardly any kind of price to pay. I thought it'd be more challenging.

"It's not enough to stand against the darkness. You have to stand apart from it too"

Ironic conscidering that all the other endings have you joining the darkness, while this one removes it. 

[KaiserShep]

It's like Spike from Dinosaurs said: "Light is overrated. Seems to me most of the important stuff happens in the dark."

[Kataphrut94]

Br3ad wrote...

Kataphrut94 wrote...

I don't feel bad about EDI because she always survives my playthroughs. The way I figure it, Shepard's already going to die, no point adding more dead to the pile if you can avoid it. Especially not a good friend.

I would never let the Reapers survive for a robot, no matter how good of a friend they may be. It's not about who survives, from my Shep's point of view, is that the Reapers die so others can survive in the future. 

Whether the Reapers live or die is irrelevant, since they're neutralised no matter what in all endings. If you have one result that accomplishes the same thing as the other two but with added casualties, then there's no point in choosing it. Destroy doesn't have anything going for it for me except for glib satisfaction and a meaningless breath scene.

[Br3admax]

Kataphrut94 wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

Kataphrut94 wrote...

I don't feel bad about EDI because she always survives my playthroughs. The way I figure it, Shepard's already going to die, no point adding more dead to the pile if you can avoid it. Especially not a good friend.

I would never let the Reapers survive for a robot, no matter how good of a friend they may be. It's not about who survives, from my Shep's point of view, is that the Reapers die so others can survive in the future. 

Whether the Reapers live or die is irrelevant, since they're neutralised no matter what in all endings. If you have one result that accomplishes the same thing as the other two but with added casualties, then there's no point in choosing it. Destroy doesn't have anything going for it for me except for glib satisfaction and a meaningless breath scene.

What other result acomplishes dead Reapers? That whole "The only way to trully defeat my enemy is to make them my friend," bullcrap only works in kid shows. 

[Sir DeLoria]

naes1984 wrote...

Yeah. Making her a naked fem-bot for fan service was a disservice to the character. Wait, what are we talking about?

Was it really fan service? I don't think any fan ever suggested something this far fetched, out of character and generally ridiculous.

[naes1984]

Necanor wrote...

naes1984 wrote...

Yeah. Making her a naked fem-bot for fan service was a disservice to the character. Wait, what are we talking about?

Was it really fan service? I don't think any fan ever suggested something this far fetched, out of character and generally ridiculous.

I meant "fan-fictiony" rather than "fan service." 

[Br3admax]

Necanor wrote...

naes1984 wrote...

Yeah. Making her a naked fem-bot for fan service was a disservice to the character. Wait, what are we talking about?

Was it really fan service? I don't think any fan ever suggested something this far fetched, out of character and generally ridiculous.

Nobody wanted a naked EDI. Nobody wanted an EDI with a body at all. No one with a good reason, anyway. 

[Sir DeLoria]

Br3ad wrote...

Necanor wrote...

naes1984 wrote...

Yeah. Making her a naked fem-bot for fan service was a disservice to the character. Wait, what are we talking about?

Was it really fan service? I don't think any fan ever suggested something this far fetched, out of character and generally ridiculous.

Nobody wanted a naked EDI. Nobody wanted an EDI with a body at all. No one with a good reason, anyway. 

Exactly. Whoever had this idea needs to get a girlfriend.

[naes1984]

Necanor wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

Necanor wrote...

naes1984 wrote...

Yeah. Making her a naked fem-bot for fan service was a disservice to the character. Wait, what are we talking about?

Was it really fan service? I don't think any fan ever suggested something this far fetched, out of character and generally ridiculous.

Nobody wanted a naked EDI. Nobody wanted an EDI with a body at all. No one with a good reason, anyway. 

Exactly. Whoever had this idea needs to get a girlfriend.

It's weird. Joker loves the Normandy. Now he loooooves the Normandy.<3 It seems like the kind of idea that would imediately get thrown out in a brainstroming session. I tend to think they could have swapped out James, Javik and EDI for any three Mass Effect 2 characters and people would have been much happier.

[Br3admax]

naes1984 wrote...

Necanor wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

Necanor wrote...

naes1984 wrote...

Yeah. Making her a naked fem-bot for fan service was a disservice to the character. Wait, what are we talking about?

Was it really fan service? I don't think any fan ever suggested something this far fetched, out of character and generally ridiculous.

Nobody wanted a naked EDI. Nobody wanted an EDI with a body at all. No one with a good reason, anyway. 

Exactly. Whoever had this idea needs to get a girlfriend.

It's weird. Joker loves the Normandy. Now he loooooves the Normandy.<3 It seems like the kind of idea that would imediately get thrown out in a brainstroming session. I tend to think they could have swapped out James, Javik and EDI for any three Mass Effect 2 characters and people would have been much happier.

When one of the most recognizable VAs you have asks for something, you better well give it. The one person who wanted the EDImance, to be honest, was Seth Green himself. 

[Kataphrut94]

Br3ad wrote...

Kataphrut94 wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

Kataphrut94 wrote...

I don't feel bad about EDI because she always survives my playthroughs. The way I figure it, Shepard's already going to die, no point adding more dead to the pile if you can avoid it. Especially not a good friend.

I would never let the Reapers survive for a robot, no matter how good of a friend they may be. It's not about who survives, from my Shep's point of view, is that the Reapers die so others can survive in the future. 

Whether the Reapers live or die is irrelevant, since they're neutralised no matter what in all endings. If you have one result that accomplishes the same thing as the other two but with added casualties, then there's no point in choosing it. Destroy doesn't have anything going for it for me except for glib satisfaction and a meaningless breath scene.

What other result acomplishes dead Reapers? That whole "The only way to trully defeat my enemy is to make them my friend," bullcrap only works in kid shows. 

I said neutralised, not dead. If they're not trying to kill us, then that's just as good as us killing them. And who says I'm making them my friend? In Control, they're practically my slaves. As for Synthesis, clearly it does work. You're taking a pretty dim view of something that:

A) Ceases hostitlities, saving billions of lives
Has the potential to benefit the galaxy far more than simply destroying them
C) Does not remove anything from the universe and actually adds something to it.

Whereas, the only reason to accept Destroy as superior is the sheer-minded principle that somehow a victory only matters if the enemy is dead, damn the consequences. I'm thinking more in terms of results; no unnecessary casulaties, the war is still over, and who better than the Reapers to get the relays back working and help clean up all the mess? Also, the geth live on and EDI and Joker get to be happy together. My Shepard does right by his mates.

Modifié par Kataphrut94, 10 septembre 2013 - 12:06 .

[Br3admax]

Kataphrut94 wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

Kataphrut94 wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

Kataphrut94 wrote...

I don't feel bad about EDI because she always survives my playthroughs. The way I figure it, Shepard's already going to die, no point adding more dead to the pile if you can avoid it. Especially not a good friend.

I would never let the Reapers survive for a robot, no matter how good of a friend they may be. It's not about who survives, from my Shep's point of view, is that the Reapers die so others can survive in the future. 

Whether the Reapers live or die is irrelevant, since they're neutralised no matter what in all endings. If you have one result that accomplishes the same thing as the other two but with added casualties, then there's no point in choosing it. Destroy doesn't have anything going for it for me except for glib satisfaction and a meaningless breath scene.

What other result acomplishes dead Reapers? That whole "The only way to trully defeat my enemy is to make them my friend," bullcrap only works in kid shows. 

I said neutralised, not dead. If they're not trying to kill us, then that's just as good as us killing them. And who says I'm making them my friend? In Control, they're practically my slaves. As for Synthesis, clearly it does work. You're taking a pretty dim view of something that:

A) Ceases hostitlities, saving billions of lives
Has the potential to benefit the galaxy far more than simply destroying them
C) Does not remove anything from the universe and actually adds something to it.

Whereas, the only reason to accept Destroy as superior is the sheer-minded principle that somehow a victory only matters if the enemy is dead, damn the consequences. I'm thinking more in terms of results; no unnecessary casulaties, the war is still over, and who better than the Reapers to get the relays back working and help clean up all the mess? Also, the geth live on and EDI and Joker get to be happy together. My Shepard does right by his mates.

I know what you said, no read what I said. We don't need neutralized Reapers, we need dead Reapers, and we don't need the Reapers to rebuild anything for us. If anything, that is reinforcing their point that we can't think for ourselves and decide our own futures. And Joker...Joker needs help. Emotional attachment to a piece of metal is not healthy. 

Modifié par Br3ad, 10 septembre 2013 - 12:13 .