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[David7204]

Well that's the nice thing. It doesn't have to apply to all Renegades. Just the ones that tout Synthetics aren't alive.

Modifié par David7204, 09 septembre 2013 - 01:21 .

[Sir DeLoria]

Br3ad wrote...

Oh, Necanor. Did you just really use the Tali fanbase to help your argument? Very bad move.

It's one of the biggest fanbases in existence, why would their opinion not matter?

[Anubis722]

Necanor wrote...

David7204 wrote...

Necanor wrote...

David7204 wrote...
*Blah, blah, blah*

Ate it right up.

And the funniest part of all is that the same people are the ones who love to tout how independent they are. How they don't have to think what BioWare tells them to think.

Doesn't the existence of Synthetic-hating Paragons contradict that? I don't care of what morality type my decisions are, I pick what I agree on and it happens to be that I always go full Paragon.

It would, if you could point out a good number of Synthetic-hating Paragons. Maybe 3 or 4. Can you?

Half the Tali fanbase?

No

[Br3admax]

TheMyron wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

TheMyron wrote...

Sorry, not going to sacrifice my dreams of a family so that idiot pilot can keep his sexbot.

I know you say this in every single thread about the ending, but you should know that Shepard will probably die childess.  Just to let you know. 

Considering the Conduit would have been shot from a safe distance, and with either Jack or Ashley as my main LI, I don't think that Shepard would die childless.

No, child, no. They will die childless just like every other hero with such a wide choice of LIs, bar Warden. 

Modifié par Br3ad, 09 septembre 2013 - 01:25 .

[themikefest]

the robot was a waste of a squadmate. I like to have the option to tell it to go back to its holographic form or risk the airlock.

I have no remorse for the tin can being fried in destroy. Didn't the Leviathan turd say everything can be rebuilt?

[Sir DeLoria]

David7204 wrote...

Well, that argument collapses as soon as you pointed out that they're members of the Tali fanbase. Thank you, I didn't consider that.

Some of them, not all. Even so, is the opinion of the Tali fanbase suddenly worth less than that of the holy Liara fanbase?

[The Night Mammoth]

Necanor wrote...

David7204 wrote...

Well, that argument collapses as soon as you pointed out that they're members of the Tali fanbase. Thank you, I didn't consider that.

Some of them, not all. Even so, is the opinion of the Tali fanbase suddenly worth less than that of the holy Liara fanbase?

Suddenly? I thought this has always been the case. 

[David7204]

On this issue, yes it is.

Tell me, why do you think members of the 'Tali fanbase' tend to dislike AIs more than other 'fanbases'?

[Sir DeLoria]

David7204 wrote...

On this issue, yes it is.

Tell me, why do you think members of the 'Tali fanbase' tend to dislike AIs more than other 'fanbases'?

I'm not sure, I just noticed that the number of people who dislike AIs in that group is far greater than in the other groups. It's simply based on observation. But by all means, enlighten me with your delightful theories.

[Br3admax]

The Night Mammoth wrote...

Necanor wrote...

David7204 wrote...

Well, that argument collapses as soon as you pointed out that they're members of the Tali fanbase. Thank you, I didn't consider that.

Some of them, not all. Even so, is the opinion of the Tali fanbase suddenly worth less than that of the holy Liara fanbase?

Suddenly? I thought this has always been the case. 

[dreamgazer]

David7204 wrote...

Well that's the nice thing. It doesn't have to apply to all Renegades. Just the ones that tout Synthetics aren't alive.

So, you're under the impression that all paragon Shepards see synthetics as alive?

[David7204]

Necanor wrote...

David7204 wrote...

On this issue, yes it is.

Tell me, why do you think members of the 'Tali fanbase' tend to dislike AIs more than other 'fanbases'?

I'm not sure, I just noticed that the number of people who dislike AIs in that group is far greater than in the other groups. It's simply based on observation. But by all means, enlighten me with your delightful theories.

Isn't it obvious?

Tali is basically opposed to the geth. As are the quarians. People who are very fond of Tali are more likely to let her opinion influence them and oppose the geth as well.

[dreamgazer]

Love this cute little analysis of ME's players, David. Keep it up!

[Steelcan]

Ohhhhh psycho analyze me next

[Sir DeLoria]

David7204 wrote...

Isn't it obvious?

Tali is basically opposed to the geth. As are the quarians. People who are very fond of Tali are more likely to let her opinion influence them and oppose the geth as well.

Not everyone has their opinion influenced by a virtual character. Maybe you do, but most people don't.

Modifié par Necanor, 09 septembre 2013 - 01:35 .

[David7204]

dreamgazer wrote...

David7204 wrote...

Well that's the nice thing. It doesn't have to apply to all Renegades. Just the ones that tout Synthetics aren't alive.

So, you're under the impression that all paragon Shepards see synthetics as alive?

I really have a very difficult time seeing how any rational person can look at EDI in ME 3 and say Synthetics in Mass Effect are not alive.

I suppose it's possible that it's a bleedover from thinking that robots will and can never be alive in real life, but I really don't see why such a person would ever bother with science fiction to begin with.

[David7204]

Necanor wrote...

David7204 wrote...

Isn't it obvious?

Tali is basically opposed to the geth. As are the quarians. People who are very fond of Tali are more likely to let her opinion influence them and oppose the geth as well.

Not everyone has their opinion influenced by a virtual character.

Many people clearly do. What other reason can you provide for the Tali fanbase disliking AIs?

[David7204]

dreamgazer wrote...

Love this cute little analysis of ME's players, David. Keep it up!

Do you have an alternate reason? This seems very simple to me. Tali hates the geth. Players who are attached to Tali also tend to hate the geth. Does it really take a genius to figure out what's going on?

[Br3admax]

The fact that the main enemy from every game is one? And they keep trying to kill you?

[Sir DeLoria]

David7204 wrote...

Necanor wrote...

David7204 wrote...
Isn't it obvious?

Tali is basically opposed to the geth. As are the quarians. People who are very fond of Tali are more likely to let her opinion influence them and oppose the geth as well.

Not everyone has their opinion influenced by a virtual character.

Many people clearly do. What other reason can you provide for the Tali fanbase disliking AIs?

Have you ever thought, that it might be vice versa? I never liked AIs, which is one of the reasons why Tali was sympathetic to me. David, please stop thinking you have a degree in psychology, you're just making generalizations and baseless assumptions.

[David7204]

We're not talking about people hating the geth in general. We're talking about the 'Tali fanbase' hating the geth more than most players. Why would people who are fans of Tali tend to hate the geth more than most players?

[David7204]

Necanor wrote...

Have you ever thought, that it might be vice versa? I never liked AIs, which is one of the reasons why Tali was sympathetic to me. David, please stop thinking you have a degree in psychology, you're just making generalizations and baseless assumptions.

You 'never liked AIs.' I see. Is that just for Mass Effect, is that for all fiction?

Modifié par David7204, 09 septembre 2013 - 01:41 .

[Br3admax]

David7204 wrote...

We're not talking about people hating the geth in general. We're talking about the 'Tali fanbase' hating the geth more than most players. Why would people who are fans of Tali tend to hate the geth more than most players?

Two very big assumptions are going on in this statement. 

[Sir DeLoria]

David7204 wrote...

Necanor wrote...

Have you ever thought, that it might be vice versa? I never liked AIs, which is one of the reasons why Tali was sympathetic to me. David, please stop thinking you have a degree in psychology, you're just making generalizations and baseless assumptions.

You 'never liked AIs.' I see. Is that just for Mass Effect, is that for all fiction?

I'm not that much into science fiction(at least compared to other people here), but I can't generalize. I like AIs in some fictions, I dislike them in others. Mass Effect is one of the others obviously.