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Do you expect the Warden to come back?


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#51
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My Warden was eviscerated by the Archdemon, sooo... no.

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I want my Warden to come back, Bioware to make an absolutely new game with the Warden as the main hero/ine and kicking ass just like in good ol times

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mutant_anemone wrote...

My Warden was eviscerated by the Archdemon, sooo... no.

The Warden Commander then :whistle:

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I don't want to see my warden. Her story is done. BioWare can do what they like with her if they have to, but I really don't care. In my mind, she's hanging out in Orzammar, rubbing her paragonship in the noble castes' faces and throwing wild drunken parties in the diamond quarter.

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EntropicAngel wrote...

Expect? Not at all.


agreed - i don't even want him/her to return (at least not, if he or she is not the PC - because if not, the warden is not me and thus is devoid of personality IMHO...the warden would never be like he was when he was me (thus i would consider him/her to be out of character and that would not be good IMHO) and thus i hope the warden will not return (oh on another note, is the warden not becoming a little "old"? - i mean 15 years or so after DA:O (give or take) the warden only has a few years left (if they don't go the Fiona route (cured the taint) or the Avernus route (used blood-magic and the taint itself to extend his live even beyond what he would normally have - even without the taint)) till the calling...)

greetings LAX

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DarthLaxian wrote...

EntropicAngel wrote...

Expect? Not at all.


agreed - i don't even want him/her to return (at least not, if he or she is not the PC - because if not, the warden is not me and thus is devoid of personality IMHO...the warden would never be like he was when he was me (thus i would consider him/her to be out of character and that would not be good IMHO) and thus i hope the warden will not return (oh on another note, is the warden not becoming a little "old"? - i mean 15 years or so after DA:O (give or take) the warden only has a few years left (if they don't go the Fiona route (cured the taint) or the Avernus route (used blood-magic and the taint itself to extend his live even beyond what he would normally have - even without the taint)) till the calling...)

greetings LAX


Well not 15 years 10-11 years from beginning first game to ending second game well and my warden spared avernous sure he told him to not be psycho with his experiments but still have him and use his potion.

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Expect... Nah. Hope.. It's not something I'm clamoring for specifically. But I wouldn't be angry if they decided to do something with my Warden.

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Expect? No.
Want? Not really.

My Warden's story is done. Let him rest.

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My warden impregnated Morrigan while fooling around with Leliana. He ended up being the father of the OGB and going away with Leliana. All in all, I don't think Bioware can handle all this complexity of relations...Frankly, no one can. Do I wish I can see my warden again? Yeah, why not? But will he be in the next game? Probably not :(

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I'd rather not have the Warden (or Hawke) return, aside from being namedropped. His story is done, let's move on.

If he does have to come back, I'd like to see the bookish Circle Mage, who played the chessmaster and saved Avernus and the Architect because he found their out-of-the-box alternatives to the problem precisely the sort of thing he'd consider, albeit done ethically.

The sort of individual who pragmatically realised that working for the Crows was in the best interest of their survival and ensured they were around to stop the Blight, particularly since their assassinations were of unscrupulous individuals to begin with.

Furthermore, one who played a gentleman thief as the Dark Wolf, but never hurt anyone from their actions. When the fake encountered in Awakening admitted to acting like a brutal thug and Jack Bauer when told to uncover the conspiracy, my Warden killed him in a heartbeat, feeling he went too far and was in danger of besmirching the reputation of the folk hero they had created. Plus, what kind of ego leads a man to want to pretend to be Robin Hood?

In other words, a highly intelligent and complex character, who despite being a hero overall, isn't afraid to make morally dubious choices if the situation calls for them and always likes to keep a few aces up their sleeve as a last resort.

A generic cookie-cutter Warden to fit all races and origins would be awful.

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Personally. I want to see Hawke more than the Warden. For one, my Warden is dead. Plus, I think an appearance (if any) from Hawke is more likely to happen. Since they are already voiced and personality options are more cut and dry. IMO.

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Secretlyapotato wrote...

Do you expect the Warden to come back?


Not unless I'm playing him/her.

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Yes, though "expect" is probably the wrong word. If they didn't want the Warden or Hawke to have an effect on the plot of DA:I, they should not have included the almost-last line of Dragon Age 2 referring to Hawke:

"Gone. Just like the Warden."

Now, I hope they appear. But I understand the difficulties of that, so it may not be possible. But I'd like them to have an effect on the plot in some way.

Where did they disappear to? Was it of their own will? What have they been doing in the years between DA2 and DA:I?

Modifié par Jamie9, 09 septembre 2013 - 02:18 .


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Jamie9 wrote...

Yes, though "expect" is probably the wrong word. If they didn't want the Warden or Hawke to have an effect on the plot of DA:I, they should not have included the almost-last line of Dragon Age 2 referring to Hawke:

"Gone. Just like the Warden."

Now, I hope they appear. But I understand the difficulties of that, so it may not be possible. But I'd like them to have an effect on the plot in some way.

Where did they disappear to? Was it of their own will? What have they been doing in the years between DA2 and DA:I?


Trying to find the hidden Darkspawn Empire?

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Just to add, I think it'd be tolerable for the Warden to be gone only if all of these other characters didn't play a big part as well. Leliana, Morrigan, Sten, Alistair.. whoever. They're all still there. This isn't D&D where you jump hundreds of years or across different realms and can easily get into a different frame of mind. We're dealing with a setting that takes place in a specific timeline during the Dragon Age, with most of the original crew still existing. Which is to say, there is still room for the Warden to be relevant or at the very least, have their fate addressed. To just wave off the Warden and say they're gone and everyone should forget about it is weird to me.

Modifié par StreetMagic, 09 septembre 2013 - 02:25 .


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OdanUrr wrote...
Trying to find the hidden Darkspawn Empire?

A possibility. Or perhaps they both left through Eluvians? (My Warden didn't in Witch Hunt, but there wasn't a good reason to go through with Morrigan - if he knew this Veil Tear was coming...)

Or maybe they both possess Dragon Blood, if Tevinter Dragon Cults are a thing in DA:I.

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I expect at least a brief appearance or reference, but I do want them both to come back. David Gaider said himself that they do not take headcanon into account, and that while they may not appear, they did important things and you can't just expect them to stay gone. Also this:

http://www.ign.com/a...-save-transfers

"So does this mean Hawke and your Warden play an important role in Inquisition? Darrah says yes -- but BioWare won't elaborate on that just yet"

There you go doubters. Let the angry tears and rejoicing commence.

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I don't expect him to return. I just don't see a way they can do so without either...

A: Rendering him/her in game by somehow importing looks and making them look ridiculous as a result.

B: Having us recreate them with the character creator. Which I feel is unlikely due to no knowledge on how big of a role they would have.

There is also the problem of bringing a mute character (who could talk) into a voiced game. That would send so many people into a rage.

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Nashiktal wrote...
There is also the problem of bringing a mute character (who could talk) into a voiced game. That would send so many people into a rage.

Worked with Isaac Clarke. It's not like you're suddenly giving Gordon Freeman a voice. You even picked a voice for battle cries, and so the Warden was never entirely mute.

Modifié par Jamie9, 09 septembre 2013 - 02:50 .


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Jamie9 wrote...

Nashiktal wrote...
There is also the problem of bringing a mute character (who could talk) into a voiced game. That would send so many people into a rage.

Worked with Isaac Clarke. It's not like you're suddenly giving Gordon Freeman a voice. You even picked a voice for battle cries, and so the Warden was never entirely mute.

Isaac Clarke isn't from an RPG with a character creator.

There were what, 10 voice sets? Yeah, that's feasible. If those VAs are even still available or good at doing more voice work than just yelling out short phrases.

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Taleroth wrote...
Isaac Clarke isn't from an RPG with a character creator.

There were what, 10 voice sets? Yeah, that's feasible. If those VAs are even still available or good at doing more voice work than just yelling out short phrases.

Well, I was assuming that the Warden wouldn't grace our screens for too long. But yes, that is another complication in and of itself.

I guess I would just be disappointed if the Warden's mute-ness (or, them having 10 voice sets) prevented them from ever reappearing. If the Warden's story was over, that would be fine, but both the Warden and Hawke were specifically brought up at the end of DA2.

It's not a game-breaker for me, just something I'd really enjoy seeing.

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ZodiacLullaby wrote...

Personally. I want to see Hawke more than the Warden. For one, my Warden is dead. Plus, I think an appearance (if any) from Hawke is more likely to happen. Since they are already voiced and personality options are more cut and dry. IMO.


I wish people would stop saying that Hawke's personality is more cut and dry. None of my Hawke kept to their dominant tone,-

My Main Hawke was dominat diplomatic because she believed in speaking nicely and politely to people. She was also completely uncompromising promage and pro blood magic and pro a violent rebellion and would gladly kill anyone in her way and she has a very, very short temper and keeps a grudge forever (which is why she could never work with my warden).

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Chris724 wrote...

I expect at least a brief appearance or reference, but I do want them both to come back. David Gaider said himself that they do not take headcanon into account, and that while they may not appear, they did important things and you can't just expect them to stay gone. Also this:

http://www.ign.com/a...-save-transfers

"So does this mean Hawke and your Warden play an important role in Inquisition? Darrah says yes -- but BioWare won't elaborate on that just yet"

There you go doubters. Let the angry tears and rejoicing commence.


Important role =/= from appearing in game. We can easily for example hear about the wardens queens rule back in Fereldan, that can be done without it inferring with head canon.

Just as we can hear about how pro-freedom mages for example, will hold the champion that defended them up as an icon of freedom.

None of these example says anothing about the former PC's personalities, look and actual behavior when talking to people.

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No.
I expect at some point, maybe in DAI, maybe in dlc, maybe in DA4, Gaider will take pity on us fans, rotfl and put something in the games about the fate of the warden and about the fate of hawke.
But we'll never see either of them again.

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I expect they will... but I pray that they won't. It's a recipe for nothing but fan rage, disappointment and bad story-telling.