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Why doesn't Cassandra Pentaghast lead the Inquisition?


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I would hope the PC has a reputation beyond just being the sole survivor of the Veil tear. It would be dumb to just throw a farmhand or a beggar into such a huge role.

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The Inquisitor is the sole survivor of the event that spurs the group's formation.

It is likely that the Inquisitor is initially an impartial voice, who all involved parties agree upon.

Like a sovereign.

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Technically Alistair should have been the leader too, but they needed someone else to do the job for him too. ;)

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ziloe wrote...

Technically Alistair should have been the leader too, but they needed someone else to do the job for him too. ;)


Well, to be fair, besides the fact that it was kind of the point of Alistair's character development that he was kind of spineless at first, in that case we're talking about a matter of six months seniority. Depending on the origin, specifically the dalish and the dwarven noble, the PC would technically have more experience fighting darkspawn than him, even before their joining. 

With Cassandra, she's been doing the whole seeker thing for eighteen years, minimum. 

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greengoron89 wrote...

I would hope the PC has a reputation beyond just being the sole survivor of the Veil tear. It would be dumb to just throw a farmhand or a beggar into such a huge role.


You haven't played enough RPGs I think. It's a trope to start as a farmhand and become the most badass person in the whole univers.

Why you get dumped into the Inquisitor's seat is plot dependent and BioWare haven't spoil all of it (yet). I suspect lots of people aren't going to be satisfied with the explanation though. As for reputation, Elf and Qunari are going to have a hard time having any...

Going back to the OP. Cassandra might be like Miranda in ME2, which might mean that that PC might just be a figurehead and everytime you get back to the "keep" she's going to be either pissed off at what you did or happy about it. For all we know, she's the real one in control and the PC is just a puppet. We have no idea what the plot is at this point.

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I think allot of people are still assuming the Inquisition is all Cassandra's idea and she just lets you be in charge for some reason.

I find that doubtful. I think she will probably be important to the plot and she might provide allot of the muscle for your army but Bioware have said many times that your character is the one forming the Inqusition.

So I dunno what will give you that Idea, Maybe Morrigan or Flemeth will tell you to do it.

I assume there is either going to be more to surviving the veil tear than just chance or there will be another reason for you being the Inquisitor.

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Vit246 wrote...

 I mean, she's a member of the ruling royal family of Nevarra, high ranking member of the Seekers, Hero of Orlais, Right Hand of the Divine.....

She's gotta have access to resources and influence and stuff like that.

Maybe she should be leading the Inquisition. Being our boss kinda.

What makes the Player so special?

EDIT: I AM NOT SAYING WE SHOULD BE PLAYING AS CASSANDRA. Maybe the Player could've been her Second-In-Command Inquisitor. Maybe Cassandra can be Lord / High Inquisitor and the Player can be just plain Inquisitor or something. I dunno. I totally get the appeal of playing as the leader of the Inquisition.


Have you considered maybe that's exactly why she can't be the Inquisitor?

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My speculation would be something like

The veil tears and your character has to fight a load of demons and shizz but manages to survive, Is rescued by Flameth (or someone) and told that only the power of the inquisition is enough to save Thedas. Maybe you are given some help or something but you are told to recruit Cassandra and Viv to help you do this.

Somehow people know that you were there when the veil was torn and that you survived. this means you should be the one to combat this because of your experience.

Now ofc there would be more to it than that but this sounds like a reasonable Bioware Plot to me that would make some sort of sense.

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The Inquisition "is formed in opposition to the Chantry will... you're not a puppet of the church... if anything you're the upstart rebel" -- quote Mike Laidlaw.

The PC is obviously the person in charge, but the Inquisition 'founding' will be interesting... do people follow you because there's no one better, or you already have some status/title, etc?

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Vit246 wrote...

 I mean, she's a member of the ruling royal family of Nevarra, high ranking member of the Seekers, Hero of Orlais, Right Hand of the Divine.....

She's gotta have access to resources and influence and stuff like that.

Maybe she should be leading the Inquisition. Being our boss kinda.

What makes the Player so special?

EDIT: I AM NOT SAYING WE SHOULD BE PLAYING AS CASSANDRA. Maybe the Player could've been her Second-In-Command Inquisitor. Maybe Cassandra can be Lord / High Inquisitor and the Player can be just plain Inquisitor or something. I dunno. I totally get the appeal of playing as the leader of the Inquisition.


From what I have been understanding from the talking that has been done at the different cons and Game Informer articles is that the Inquistion is independant from any of the organizations that currently exist in Thedas.  So having someone that had rank in the Chantry being the leader of the Inquisition doesn't seem to make much sense to me.  For all we really know the protagionist becomes the leader of the inquistion by pure luck sort of the same way the Warden did in Dragon Age: Origins.

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We don't know yet how qualified our Inquisitor is, there has to be something that happens within his/her past that makes him/her a viable face of the Inquisition.

I think immediately assuming s/he isn't qualified to lead is silly. These are always questions Bioware's characters raise, and I think they frequently have good answers why they've become THE leader of the party.

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My theory is that the inquisitor just starts hunting who is responsible on his/her own. After a few encounters, and a few people seeing that she/he is getting stuff done and moving forward (along with the fact that there is no stopping the inquisitor) the world begins to recognize him/her.

Cassandra may be sent by the chantry to oversee its interests in the investigation. Same for other characters. Some may join because they admire what the inquisitor is doing, others because they see a chance to hitch their fortunes to someone who is able to get stuff done, etc.

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Who is more powerful than the player him/herself?

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RazorrX wrote...

My theory is that the inquisitor just starts hunting who is responsible on his/her own. After a few encounters, and a few people seeing that she/he is getting stuff done and moving forward (along with the fact that there is no stopping the inquisitor) the world begins to recognize him/her.

Cassandra may be sent by the chantry to oversee its interests in the investigation. Same for other characters. Some may join because they admire what the inquisitor is doing, others because they see a chance to hitch their fortunes to someone who is able to get stuff done, etc.


Laidlaw hinted that Cassandra no longer supports the Chantry entirely. 

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Because they're not the Chosen One.

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Because... because in my game she is dead :o

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greengoron89 wrote...

I would hope the PC has a reputation beyond just being the sole survivor of the Veil tear. It would be dumb to just throw a farmhand or a beggar into such a huge role.


This has been bugging me too, but maybe picking a nobody (in hopes of secretly controlling that nobody) seems beneficial in the turmoil of Thedas at war.

I bet the PC will have a compelling reason to be at the place where the Veil tore in the first place and may have some importance, but our character could have been given the title of Inquisitor as a political ploy. With the unrest in Thedas, the Chantry does not have much power (especially to lead an investigation) so making a chantry-based organization would potentially fail. Cassandra as a party member could imply that the Inquisitor is really not trusted to make their own decisions (and may have been chosen as a pawn), but larger powers were desperate enough to support an independent organization because the status-quo political factions were too divicive to get anything done... whether the inquisitor is strongly encouraged to do things by the Chantry through Cassandra or possibly Leliana will have to be seen. Alternatively, Vivienne may hope/try to and push her ideas on us.

I could easily see party members joining the Inqusition because their faction believes they can mannipulate the Inqusitor. If you can get the "objective" third party to support you, you've a better shot of coming out on top. It would also make for an interesting story if it is hard to tell if people are supporting you because they believe in you, or they want to use you.

Modifié par Statare, 09 septembre 2013 - 04:04 .


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Statare wrote...

greengoron89 wrote...

I would hope the PC has a reputation beyond just being the sole survivor of the Veil tear. It would be dumb to just throw a farmhand or a beggar into such a huge role.


This has been bugging me too, but maybe picking a nobody (in hopes of secretly controlling that nobody) seems beneficial in the turmoil of Thedas at war.

I bet the PC will have a compelling reason to be at the place where the Veil tore in the first place and may have some importance, but our character could have been given the title of Inquisitor as a political ploy. With the unrest in Thedas, the Chantry does not have much power (especially to lead an investigation) so making a chantry-based organization would potentially fail. Cassandra as a party member could imply that the Inquisitor is really not trusted to make their own decisions (and may have been chosen as a pawn), but larger powers were desperate enough to support an independent organization because the status-quo political factions were too divicive to get anything done... whether the inquisitor is strongly encouraged to do things by the Chantry through Cassandra or possibly Leliana will have to be seen. Alternatively, Vivienne may hope/try to and push her ideas on us.

I could easily see party members joining the Inqusition because their faction believes they can mannipulate the Inqusitor. If you can get the "objective" third party to support you, you've a better shot of coming out on top. It would also make for an interesting story if it is hard to tell if people are supporting you because they believe in you, or they want to use you.


Ugh again, The Inquisition is a rogue group not part of the chantry but in oppostion to them in fact. 

The Inquistion is set up by your character not Cassandra or the Chantry. 

Now we don't know how or why your character does this but we do know that the inquisition is not a group being set up by the chantry (or anyone) already that you somehow get put in charge of. 

You can support the chantry if you wish but you will probably have to earn their respect seing as you are basically taking over their job for them. 

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I'm betting that the Inquisitor has a unique ability as a result of being at ground zero of the Fade Breach, such as the ability to close fade tears.

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As previously stated, most people want to roleplay a character of their own creation.

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Wulfram wrote...

Because they're not the Chosen One.


It's been a while since Bioware's done a proper Chosen One. They just write de-facto Chosen Ones now. 

Modifié par In Exile, 09 septembre 2013 - 10:12 .


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Gill Kaiser wrote...

I'm betting that the Inquisitor has a unique ability as a result of being at ground zero of the Fade Breach, such as the ability to close fade tears.

Or in a shocking twist at the end be unmasked as the true antagonist of the game and responsible for the fade breach.

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Because... I think we will find out in game.

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She doesn't have the Inquisitor genes.

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mikeymoonshine wrote...

Statare wrote...

greengoron89 wrote...

I would hope the PC has a reputation beyond just being the sole survivor of the Veil tear. It would be dumb to just throw a farmhand or a beggar into such a huge role.


This has been bugging me too, but maybe picking a nobody (in hopes of secretly controlling that nobody) seems beneficial in the turmoil of Thedas at war.

I bet the PC will have a compelling reason to be at the place where the Veil tore in the first place and may have some importance, but our character could have been given the title of Inquisitor as a political ploy. With the unrest in Thedas, the Chantry does not have much power (especially to lead an investigation) so making a chantry-based organization would potentially fail. Cassandra as a party member could imply that the Inquisitor is really not trusted to make their own decisions (and may have been chosen as a pawn), but larger powers were desperate enough to support an independent organization because the status-quo political factions were too divicive to get anything done... whether the inquisitor is strongly encouraged to do things by the Chantry through Cassandra or possibly Leliana will have to be seen. Alternatively, Vivienne may hope/try to and push her ideas on us.

I could easily see party members joining the Inqusition because their faction believes they can mannipulate the Inqusitor. If you can get the "objective" third party to support you, you've a better shot of coming out on top. It would also make for an interesting story if it is hard to tell if people are supporting you because they believe in you, or they want to use you.


Ugh again, The Inquisition is a rogue group not part of the chantry but in oppostion to them in fact. 

The Inquistion is set up by your character not Cassandra or the Chantry. 

Now we don't know how or why your character does this but we do know that the inquisition is not a group being set up by the chantry (or anyone) already that you somehow get put in charge of. 

You can support the chantry if you wish but you will probably have to earn their respect seing as you are basically taking over their job for them. 


That's a bit disappointing. I was hoping that we could choose our allies and enemies, but I suppose not.