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Why doesn't Cassandra Pentaghast lead the Inquisition?


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#51
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I would assume because she might be called back to Orlais to do something for the Divine. They need someone who can focus 100% of their time to leading it,.

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Cassandra being a Chantry stooge would conflict with the new organization's allusions toward the original Inquisition before it's merger. If she lead the organization it would be no different than the Templar Order.

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XM-417 wrote...

Gill Kaiser wrote...

I'm betting that the Inquisitor has a unique ability as a result of being at ground zero of the Fade Breach, such as the ability to close fade tears.

Or in a shocking twist at the end be unmasked as the true antagonist of the game and responsible for the fade breach.

Naa, Bioware already did that once. I think there will be more to the Inquisitor than meets the eye, though.

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Cap. Obvious wrote...

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I would hope the PC has a reputation beyond just being the sole survivor of the Veil tear. It would be dumb to just throw a farmhand or a beggar into such a huge role.


This has been bugging me too, but maybe picking a nobody (in hopes of secretly controlling that nobody) seems beneficial in the turmoil of Thedas at war.

I bet the PC will have a compelling reason to be at the place where the Veil tore in the first place and may have some importance, but our character could have been given the title of Inquisitor as a political ploy. With the unrest in Thedas, the Chantry does not have much power (especially to lead an investigation) so making a chantry-based organization would potentially fail. Cassandra as a party member could imply that the Inquisitor is really not trusted to make their own decisions (and may have been chosen as a pawn), but larger powers were desperate enough to support an independent organization because the status-quo political factions were too divicive to get anything done... whether the inquisitor is strongly encouraged to do things by the Chantry through Cassandra or possibly Leliana will have to be seen. Alternatively, Vivienne may hope/try to and push her ideas on us.

I could easily see party members joining the Inqusition because their faction believes they can mannipulate the Inqusitor. If you can get the "objective" third party to support you, you've a better shot of coming out on top. It would also make for an interesting story if it is hard to tell if people are supporting you because they believe in you, or they want to use you.


Ugh again, The Inquisition is a rogue group not part of the chantry but in oppostion to them in fact. 

The Inquistion is set up by your character not Cassandra or the Chantry. 

Now we don't know how or why your character does this but we do know that the inquisition is not a group being set up by the chantry (or anyone) already that you somehow get put in charge of. 

You can support the chantry if you wish but you will probably have to earn their respect seing as you are basically taking over their job for them. 



That's a bit disappointing. I was hoping that we could choose our allies and enemies, but I suppose not.


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Vit246 wrote...

 I mean, she's a member of the ruling royal family of Nevarra, high ranking member of the Seekers, Hero of Orlais, Right Hand of the Divine.....

She's gotta have access to resources and influence and stuff like that.

Maybe she should be leading the Inquisition. Being our boss kinda.

What makes the Player so special?

EDIT: I AM NOT SAYING WE SHOULD BE PLAYING AS CASSANDRA. Maybe the Player could've been her Second-In-Command Inquisitor. Maybe Cassandra can be Lord / High Inquisitor and the Player can be just plain Inquisitor or something. I dunno. I totally get the appeal of playing as the leader of the Inquisition.


i would hope not (for playing as Cassy - i like my mage protagonists too much for that)

as for her being "the boss" - hopefully not...i would love to at least have the Illusion of calling the shots for once (that feeling of being a lowly gofer/errand-boy is not something i like and having a boss does that (hell, even as the warden i often felt like the lowest form of life on Thedas - everyone wanted me to solve their problems for petty cash and cheap trinkets (at least mostly)...i would love it for once that people suck up to the protag and offer hefty rewards for doing things for them (note: hefty depends on the person IMHO - a noble can pay more then a farmer can of course) etc.)

greetings LAX
ps: she might be forming the organisation with you (and be on a kind of advisory-council IMHO) but i hope she is not boss!

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You know, I'm hoping that "Right hand of the divine joke" makes it into the game.

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 Just because someone is of royal blood doesn't mean they are leaders. 

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Probably because the Inquisitor decides, "You know what, I'm forming an Inquisition. WHO'S WITH ME???!!!"

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Warden Inquisitor wrote...

 Just because someone is of royal blood doesn't mean they are leaders. 

They'll 'ave you put in the stocks if they hears you speak like that, they will.

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Warden Inquisitor wrote...

 Just because someone is of royal blood doesn't mean they are leaders. 


You lowborn dirty little peasant.

Not just recognized legitimate royal blood from birth, but of the powerful ruling militarily-gifted royal family of a powerful nation to rival Orlais.

*sarcasm* Nah, I bet that doesn't count for anything!

Modifié par Vit246, 10 septembre 2013 - 03:35 .


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Vit246 wrote...

Warden Inquisitor wrote...

 Just because someone is of royal blood doesn't mean they are leaders. 


Not just recognized legitimate royal blood from birth, but of the powerful ruling royal family of a powerful nation to rival Orlais.

*sarcasm* Nah, I bet that doesn't count for anything!

Have you seen Cailan? Or Alistair? Neither of them were good leaders. Alistair especially.Just because you come from royal blood and a powerful ruling family doesn't mean you'll make a good leader. Heck, a better example would be Mad King Aerys from GoT. The dude was from a dynasty that had its share of powerful good rulers and look what happened to him.

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I just figured she was not charismatic enough along with many groups not being so keen on following a devote chantry agent.

Modifié par ananna21, 10 septembre 2013 - 03:37 .


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Vit246 wrote...

 I mean, she's a member of the ruling royal family of Nevarra, high ranking member of the Seekers, Hero of Orlais, Right Hand of the Divine.....

She's gotta have access to resources and influence and stuff like that.

Maybe she should be leading the Inquisition. Being our boss kinda.

What makes the Player so special?

EDIT: I AM NOT SAYING WE SHOULD BE PLAYING AS CASSANDRA. Maybe the Player could've been her Second-In-Command Inquisitor. Maybe Cassandra can be Lord / High Inquisitor and the Player can be just plain Inquisitor or something. I dunno. I totally get the appeal of playing as the leader of the Inquisition.


First guess is that the new Inquisition comes into existence without Cassandra.  She's a Seeker.  From what I can tell, the Inquisition is a totally independent body that arises separately from Templars, Chantry officials, Seekers, and everyone else, so I assume that Cassandra doesn't head the Inquisition because she wasn't part of it to begin with.  

Supposedly the Inquisitor ends up being the sole survivor of something, right?  Presumably the people who formed the Inquisition were all slaughtered, so you the PC..well, you're it.  Somehow we end up running with Cassandra well after we've become the Big Shot.

Reconsidered, I stand by those reasons, but I think you yourself have managed to overlook your own point:  she's a member of the ruling family of Nevarra, and a Seeker of the Chantry.  She's not exactly neutral.  Even if she technically is as an individual, there's no getting around the political implications--she CAN'T be affiliated with the Inquisition, certainly not as its head.  The Inquisition, we're told, is a neutral, independent body not connected in any way with any rulers or Chantry officials, etc.  There's plenty of reason right there for why Cassandra's involvement with the Inquisition would be very, very unofficial.

Modifié par Silfren, 10 septembre 2013 - 04:36 .


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You lowborn dirty little peasant.


When insulting the King of Ferelden, you might want to use terms that are synonymous with the title.

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Former_Fiend wrote...

You know, I'm hoping that "Right hand of the divine joke" makes it into the game.


Well, Varric's little "kingdom and country" snark made it in, so...

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You answered your own question. Cassandra is too biased to have EVERYONE's best interest in mind. She's the Divine's right hand, high ranking Seeker (pro-chantry) PLUS if you have a boss if someone else is the Lead Inquisitor that means your character will be almost obligated to submit to their whim and wish.

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Waht's all this talk about the "nautrality" of hte inquisition. It was never "neutral to being with."

Wasn't it formed from Nevaran dragon-hunters?
Didn't it become part of teh Chantry (Seekers)?

Neautrality is irrelevant for the purpose.

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Silfren wrote...

Supposedly the Inquisitor ends up being the sole survivor of something, right?  Presumably the people who formed the Inquisition were all slaughtered, so you the PC..well, you're it.  Somehow we end up running with Cassandra well after we've become the Big Shot.


This concept art shows the PC being named the Inquisitor (it was said to be early in the game). Person on the left is Cassandra and she very much look like she's doing the naming...

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Sanunes wrote...

 For all we really know the protagionist becomes the leader of the inquistion by pure luck sort of the same way the Warden did in Dragon Age: Origins.


Luck? Or is it fate? I can never tell.

Will be interesting to see how it comes together.

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Former_Fiend wrote...

You know, I'm hoping that "Right hand of the divine joke" makes it into the game.


It should indeed :P

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Warden Inquisitor wrote...

You lowborn dirty little peasant.


When insulting the King of Ferelden, you might want to use terms that are synonymous with the title.

So lowborn dirty king of the peasants?

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Cap. Obvious wrote...

mikeymoonshine wrote...

Statare wrote...

greengoron89 wrote...

I would hope the PC has a reputation beyond just being the sole survivor of the Veil tear. It would be dumb to just throw a farmhand or a beggar into such a huge role.


This has been bugging me too, but maybe picking a nobody (in hopes of secretly controlling that nobody) seems beneficial in the turmoil of Thedas at war.

I bet the PC will have a compelling reason to be at the place where the Veil tore in the first place and may have some importance, but our character could have been given the title of Inquisitor as a political ploy. With the unrest in Thedas, the Chantry does not have much power (especially to lead an investigation) so making a chantry-based organization would potentially fail. Cassandra as a party member could imply that the Inquisitor is really not trusted to make their own decisions (and may have been chosen as a pawn), but larger powers were desperate enough to support an independent organization because the status-quo political factions were too divicive to get anything done... whether the inquisitor is strongly encouraged to do things by the Chantry through Cassandra or possibly Leliana will have to be seen. Alternatively, Vivienne may hope/try to and push her ideas on us.

I could easily see party members joining the Inqusition because their faction believes they can mannipulate the Inqusitor. If you can get the "objective" third party to support you, you've a better shot of coming out on top. It would also make for an interesting story if it is hard to tell if people are supporting you because they believe in you, or they want to use you.


Ugh again, The Inquisition is a rogue group not part of the chantry but in oppostion to them in fact. 

The Inquistion is set up by your character not Cassandra or the Chantry. 

Now we don't know how or why your character does this but we do know that the inquisition is not a group being set up by the chantry (or anyone) already that you somehow get put in charge of. 

You can support the chantry if you wish but you will probably have to earn their respect seing as you are basically taking over their job for them. 


That's a bit disappointing. I was hoping that we could choose our allies and enemies, but I suppose not.


You likely can to some degree, but you properly have to win the chantry's respect. At first you will likely be seen as an usuprer by almost every faction.

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Cassandra could  lead the Inquisition.

She won't because she is an already established character with a canon backstory and personality. Throwing the player in her boots would greatly limit roleplay options. It would also obviously prevent the player from choosing the gender, race, or class of their character at start up.

Modifié par Han Shot First, 10 septembre 2013 - 03:38 .


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Warden Inquisitor wrote...

You lowborn dirty little peasant.


When insulting the King of Ferelden, you might want to use terms that are synonymous with the title.

You mean prince consort, right?

Royal concubine getting delusions of grandeur.

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Cassandra is clearly still only a flunky

Way too old for romance