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[Cigne]

I'd like Cole to be if not a companion then an agent; one that only the Inquisitor could see. A personal spy/assassin.

I don't know why, but Cole's 'invisibility' reminds me of Krager from the Vlad Taltos books.

[David Gaider]

Taleroth wrote...
The written note said a protagonist from Asunder would show up. And she assured us she also heard it would be as a companion.

Ah, that makes sense. Chris says someone from Asunder would show up, and that leads to me having said someone from Asunder will be a companion.

Whew! I was confused there, for a moment.

Modifié par David Gaider, 09 septembre 2013 - 07:53 .

[Martyr1777]

My thoughts are Cole being the companion. All the others are to involed with other situations. But the Cole has this singular purpose of protecting Rhys now, so there is some doubt. If it were Adrian it would probably the first companion I told to leave. She was way to one dementional. Rhys and Evangaline will be too occupied with the mages and themselves. So the only other option is Cole, unless Shale has a second stint as a companion.

Plus every story has had some sort of spirit related character as a companion. I'm certainlly curious to see how his character grows and plays however, so I do hope its him. Want to find out the real truth behind him and how he came back. Besides, who doesn't love the guy that killed that bastard lord seeker.

[Faerah]

David Gaider wrote...

Taleroth wrote...
The written note said a protagonist from Asunder would show up. And she assured us she also heard it would be as a companion.

Ah, that makes sense. Chris says someone from Asunder would show up, and that leads to me having said someone from Asunder will be a companion.

Whew! I was confused there, for a moment.

Semi-confirmed rumor: The rumor mill mechanic is working as intended.

[Daerog]

Faerah wrote...

Semi-confirmed rumor: The rumor mill mechanic is working as intended.

Zombie kitten army makes a return to DA:I.

I heard someone mention that someone mentioned that someone who they think was maybe a dev said it, maybe Mr. Gaider.

[DarkKnightHolmes]

Sure why not? Hopefully we can influence him to become a better person or become a full killer.

[leaguer of one]

JasonPogo wrote...

Zippy72 wrote...

Cole died; all that remains is a demon. The Inquisition is formed to fight demons - so I don't see how Cole could work as a party member?

i would argue that Cole is not a Demon.  Or ateast did not start out as one.  He was a spirit that came to the real Cole as he lay dying and forgotten to try and ease his pain.  The. When Cole died the spirit was trapped in the real world and forgot everything but Cole.  So by the end of Asunder I would say he is warped into a spirit of Vengance.

Cole started out as a despair demon, then turned to a spirit of compation.

[leaguer of one]

David Gaider wrote...

Taleroth wrote...
The written note said a protagonist from Asunder would show up. And she assured us she also heard it would be as a companion.

Ah, that makes sense. Chris says someone from Asunder would show up, and that leads to me having said someone from Asunder will be a companion.

Whew! I was confused there, for a moment.

Wow, people jump to conclusions with comments. I don't guys when you have to clean up after people jump to crazy conclusions.

[Faerah]

DarkKnightHolmes wrote...

Sure why not? Hopefully we can influence him to become a better person or become a full killer.

Leaked survey snippet for Cole *if not obsolete*:

Cole- A long time ago, a young man died a cruel death in a dark place. And now, somehow, there is Cole. Was he a spirit or a demon? Is he human now? Cole is not sure it matters any more. Hounded by memories that aren't his own, invisible in a world he can stalk like a shadow, the rogue must decide between joining the living or preying upon them.

[leaguer of one]

Avejajed wrote...

I don't jump to conclusions. I leap, with unrealistic expectations. Frankly, I hope I can kill Cole. Creepy lunatic stalker.

1. While creepy, he is the only reson people got out safely out of the story.

2.While a killer, the people who he kill wanted him to do it.

3. And even then he learnt to stop. It's an organe/blue morality concept. He is not evil. It would be calling  a tiger killing and eating a lamb evil.

Modifié par leaguer of one, 09 septembre 2013 - 08:08 .

[Taleroth]

leaguer of one wrote...

2.While a killer, the people who he kill wanted him to do it.

That's what demons always say.

[leaguer of one]

Faerah wrote...

DarkKnightHolmes wrote...

Sure why not? Hopefully we can influence him to become a better person or become a full killer.

Leaked survey snippet for Cole *if not obsolete*:

Cole- A long time ago, a young man died a cruel death in a dark place. And now, somehow, there is Cole. Was he a spirit or a demon? Is he human now? Cole is not sure it matters any more. Hounded by memories that aren't his own, invisible in a world he can stalk like a shadow, the rogue must decide between joining the living or preying upon them.

I like Cole.

[Martyr1777]

mikeymoonshine wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

I think Cole would make a pretty useful companion. We could send him off to spy on people and no one would know he was there.

... Of course, we'd probably forget who he is frequently, but at least conversations would never get boring!

That's the problem I have with cole though, that all sounds like a bit of a headache 

You are all forgeting those few that can see Cole remember him just like Rhys and Wynne. So why cant the Inquisitor. Plus I thing the party banter would be fun as hell when they keep forgeting him.

[LolaLei]

leaguer of one wrote...

Avejajed wrote...

I don't jump to conclusions. I leap, with unrealistic expectations. Frankly, I hope I can kill Cole. Creepy lunatic stalker.

1. While creepy, he is the only reson people got out safely out of the story.

2.While a killer, the people who he kill wanted him to do it.

3. And even then he learnt to stop. It's an organge/blue morality concept. He is not evil. It would be calling  a tiger killing and eating a lamb evil.

I like him! He's deadly, but completely hopeless at the same time.

[leaguer of one]

Taleroth wrote...

leaguer of one wrote...

2.While a killer, the people who he kill wanted him to do it.

That's what demons always say.

When did he ever defended himself about it? I got this by seeing the actions and reactions of the people he killed. Heck, one flat out asked him to kill him after Cole offered to free him form the circle.

[The Elder King]

Considering that the only thing that was said was that an Asunder character/protagonist would show up in the game (which I think was already clarified by LadyInsanity in her blog), there is no basis to affirm that Cole would be a companion.
I mean, considering that we're likelygoing to deal with the Chantry and the mages in some way, there are high chances that the Divine, Rhys, Evangeline, Fiona or Adrian will appear in the game.

[berelinde]

David Gaider wrote...

Taleroth wrote...
The written note said a protagonist from Asunder would show up. And she assured us she also heard it would be as a companion.

Ah, that makes sense. Chris says someone from Asunder would show up, and that leads to me having said someone from Asunder will be a companion.

Whew! I was confused there, for a moment.

You don't remember the bender where you revealed every plotline and romance in the game? Can't say I'm surprised.

It's like a giant game of telephone. By the time it gets to the end, you'll have said that qunari protagonists will only be able to romance aardvarks.

[Knight of Dane]

leaguer of one wrote...

Taleroth wrote...

leaguer of one wrote...

2.While a killer, the people who he kill wanted him to do it.

That's what demons always say.

When did he ever defended himself about it? I got this by seeing the actions and reactions of the people he killed. Heck, one flat out asked him to kill him after Cole offered to free him form the circle.

He didn't defend himself, he excused himself.

He's shankable material, bring da murder knife.

[Taleroth]

leaguer of one wrote...

Taleroth wrote...

leaguer of one wrote...

2.While a killer, the people who he kill wanted him to do it.

That's what demons always say.

When did he ever defended himself about it? I got this by seeing the actions and reactions of the people he killed. Heck, one flat out asked him to kill him after Cole offered to free him form the circle.

Less the fact of saying and more that's simply how demons operate. They prey on those feelings. Desire demons give what you want. Pride demons fulfill ego. Sloth demons help you relax. And those who are particularly moved by those emotions are the most vulnerable to the demon.

Cole is no different. He may be a despair demon, preying on those who have lost hope.

[Faerah]

leaguer of one wrote...

Taleroth wrote...

leaguer of one wrote...

2.While a killer, the people who he kill wanted him to do it.

That's what demons always say.

When did he ever defended himself about it? I got this by seeing the actions and reactions of the people he killed. Heck, one flat out asked him to kill him after Cole offered to free him form the circle.

What I find intruiging is he regrets killing them, which...would a demon care enough to regret something? Maybe, I guess, if it were uncorrupting into a good quality (opposite of justice turning into vengence, I suppose). He also only does it for survival, or at least what he thinks he needs to do to survive. Whether he -actually- has to or not...that's the real question.

[leaguer of one]

Knight of Dane wrote...

leaguer of one wrote...

Taleroth wrote...

leaguer of one wrote...

2.While a killer, the people who he kill wanted him to do it.

That's what demons always say.

When did he ever defended himself about it? I got this by seeing the actions and reactions of the people he killed. Heck, one flat out asked him to kill him after Cole offered to free him form the circle.

He didn't defend himself, he excused himself.

He's shankable material, bring da murder knife.

He didn't excuse himself there. He later learn it was wrong and stop. And even then the people he killed wanted him to do it.

[Taleroth]

Faerah wrote...

He also only does it for survival, or at least what he thinks he needs to do to survive. Whether he -actually- has to or not...that's the real question.

He does. But all demons do. They won't survive without those emotions, they especially wouldn't survive without them in the mortal realm.

[DarkKnightHolmes]

Knight of Dane wrote...

leaguer of one wrote...

Taleroth wrote...

leaguer of one wrote...

2.While a killer, the people who he kill wanted him to do it.

That's what demons always say.

When did he ever defended himself about it? I got this by seeing the actions and reactions of the people he killed. Heck, one flat out asked him to kill him after Cole offered to free him form the circle.

He didn't defend himself, he excused himself.

He's shankable material, bring da murder knife.

Considering we read from his POV and actually see he couldn't control his actions at the time,  feels pain if he doesn't kill and all his victims wanted to die, it's actually understandable. Also he has no memory of his past so he has actually no idea that killing people is wrong. After Rhys catches him, we never see him kill random people again anyway.

If I'm willing to accept Zevran, Leliana and Morrigan, who kill with their own free will and feel that murdering is A-OK, then I can safely trust Cole.

Modifié par DarkKnightHolmes, 09 septembre 2013 - 08:18 .