David Gaider wrote...
Taleroth wrote...
The written note said a protagonist from Asunder would show up. And she assured us she also heard it would be as a companion.
Ah, that makes sense. Chris says someone from Asunder would show up, and that leads to me having said someone from Asunder will be a companion.
Whew! I was confused there, for a moment.
They do that to feed and posses people. Not to flat out kill them. Remember, the goal of a demon is to posses a host. Cole does not do that. And even then he later regretes the killing and stops doing it. Add, Demon don't force the feeling of a person, they only manipulate what's there. If you have nothing to lust for a desire demon can't effect you.Taleroth wrote...
Less the fact of saying and more that's simply how demons operate. They prey on those feelings. Desire demons give what you want. Pride demons fulfill ego. Sloth demons help you relax. And those who are particularly moved by those emotions are the most vulnerable to the demon.leaguer of one wrote...
When did he ever defended himself about it? I got this by seeing the actions and reactions of the people he killed. Heck, one flat out asked him to kill him after Cole offered to free him form the circle.Taleroth wrote...
That's what demons always say.leaguer of one wrote...
2.While a killer, the people who he kill wanted him to do it.
Cole is no different. He may be a despair demon, preying on those who have lost hope.
Modifié par leaguer of one, 09 septembre 2013 - 08:22 .
DarkKnightHolmes wrote...
Considering we read from his POV and actually see he couldn't control his actions at the time, feels pain if he doesn't kill and all his victims wanted to die, it's actually understandable. Also he has no memory of his past so he has actually no idea that killing people is wrong. After Rhys catches him, we never see him kill random people again anyway.
If I'm willing to accept Zevran and Leliana, who killed with their own free will and feel that murdering is A-OK, then I can safely trust Cole.
Modifié par Faerah, 09 septembre 2013 - 08:24 .
The only reason a demon possesses a host is so that it can enter the mortal realm. Once they've arrived, possession is not a priority.leaguer of one wrote...
Remember, the goal of a demon is to posses a host.
Modifié par Taleroth, 09 septembre 2013 - 08:26 .
Of course it's still a priority...Remember, Kitty. They still want to posses a host. And they rather keep them alive to feed of them, like the Desire demon in the fereldin circle.Taleroth wrote...
The only reason a demon possesses a host is so that it can enter the mortal realm. Once they've arrived, possession is not a priority.leaguer of one wrote...
Remember, the goal of a demon is to posses a host.
The Desire Demon in the tower wasn't trying to possess the Templar. Cole neither had any reason to continue possessing. So he instead preyed and fed.
MisterJB wrote...
Mr.Gaider speaks true. It was Chris Bane during PAX.David Gaider wrote...
mikeymoonshine wrote...
This is all based on Gaider saying someone from asunder will be a companion right?
Err... I said this, did I? I don't remember saying such a thing.
The first reasonalbe arguement ageinst Cole.Knight of Dane wrote...
I don't care that he kills people, I care that he is a leech.
Knight of Dane wrote...
I don't care that he kills people, I care that he is a leech.
Don't blame all spirits because of Anders. He did something stupid and reckless.Beerfish wrote...
Anyone with a hint of demonism or spiritism in my party is going to be put to the sword......Stupid flAnders.
Modifié par leaguer of one, 09 septembre 2013 - 08:38 .
leaguer of one wrote...
Of course it's still a priority...Remember, Kitty. They still want to posses a host. And they rather keep them alive to feed of them, like the Desire demon in the fereldin circle.Taleroth wrote...
The only reason a demon possesses a host is so that it can enter the mortal realm. Once they've arrived, possession is not a priority.leaguer of one wrote...
Remember, the goal of a demon is to posses a host.
The Desire Demon in the tower wasn't trying to possess the Templar. Cole neither had any reason to continue possessing. So he instead preyed and fed.
Cole flat out killed people. Then stopped out of guilt.
Shadobald wrote...
Even though he was largely invisible in during the events of Asunder, it doesn't mean Mr. Gaider and company couldn't find some excuse for him to be partially or completely visible in some form or another.
Faerah wrote...
DarkKnightHolmes wrote...
Sure why not? Hopefully we can influence him to become a better person or become a full killer.
Leaked survey snippet for Cole *if not obsolete*:
Cole- A long time ago, a young man died a cruel death in a dark place. And now, somehow, there is Cole. Was he a spirit or a demon? Is he human now? Cole is not sure it matters any more. Hounded by memories that aren't his own, invisible in a world he can stalk like a shadow, the rogue must decide between joining the living or preying upon them.
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Despire to compassion to be more accurate. I think demonism is an extreme of a Vurtue. Compassion is where you feel sorry for others and Despire is where you feel sorry for yourself. Like Justice punish the wicked and Vengence where you're enrages by those that wronged you and Faith where you belive in something is true with out proof and Pride where you always think your right no matter what proof in on hand.Faerah wrote...
leaguer of one wrote...
Of course it's still a priority...Remember, Kitty. They still want to posses a host. And they rather keep them alive to feed of them, like the Desire demon in the fereldin circle.Taleroth wrote...
The only reason a demon possesses a host is so that it can enter the mortal realm. Once they've arrived, possession is not a priority.leaguer of one wrote...
Remember, the goal of a demon is to posses a host.
The Desire Demon in the tower wasn't trying to possess the Templar. Cole neither had any reason to continue possessing. So he instead preyed and fed.
Cole flat out killed people. Then stopped out of guilt.
Guilt. I think this is the biggest indicator that he may not be a "demon". Or, like I said before, he's special and he's "uncorrupting" into some other trait. Just like how Justice degraded into Vengeance, but opposite. Perhaps Despair into Hope? Or he could just be a spirit of mercy or something. The spirit of Valor will kill you, why is it so weird that mercy might too?
leaguer of one wrote...
Don't blame all spirits because of Anders. He did something stupid and reckless.Beerfish wrote...
Anyone with a hint of demonism or spiritism in my party is going to be put to the sword......Stupid flAnders.
Wynne...Beerfish wrote...
leaguer of one wrote...
Don't blame all spirits because of Anders. He did something stupid and reckless.Beerfish wrote...
Anyone with a hint of demonism or spiritism in my party is going to be put to the sword......Stupid flAnders.
Yeah, much like the mass killer Cole, and the legion of mages that were possessed and caused rampant destruction. The next one just might be fine though right?
Modifié par Faerah, 09 septembre 2013 - 09:00 .
Han Shot First wrote...
Who is Chris Bane?
Modifié par Maria Caliban, 09 septembre 2013 - 08:51 .
Faerah wrote...
I want to point out that we also might all be wrong and he's something completely new. An anomaly. The lifeforce from the people he kills may in fact keep him from becoming non-existent. However he came into being might have cursed him so he won't go to the Fade when he "dies" but instead just ceases to exist. Or you know, other crazy stuff Gaider might have come up with. We won't know for a while. But still, do want as a companion. I want to know what he is. o.O
Edit: He's probably reading all of this and giggling evily as we guess, flail, and debate about it.
Are those playing cards?Maria Caliban wrote...
Han Shot First wrote...
Who is Chris Bane?
If you are nice to him, he will send you cool stuff.
If he doesn't like you, he picks you up and breaks your spine over his leg while the other con goers watch in horror.
I would give away Dawn of the Seeker, too.Taleroth wrote...
Are those playing cards?Maria Caliban wrote...
Han Shot First wrote...
Who is Chris Bane?
If you are nice to him, he will send you cool stuff.
If he doesn't like you, he picks you up and breaks your spine over his leg while the other con goers watch in horror.
Have I said how awesome Chris Bain is lately? And handsome.
PS: Just send me a PM Chris, I'll give you the address to send the goods.
Of course not, I killed Velanna and Anders too.DarkKnightHolmes wrote...
Knight of Dane wrote...
I don't care that he kills people, I care that he is a leech.
After the kind of companions we had in the first two games, having a leech seems pretty normal to me.
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